BO_Scorvat Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Baratheon said: With Pettersson gaining momentum with fans I am curious as to why you guys want him over Necas? Keep in mind that I haven't seen either one play a whole lot aside from World Juniors. They sound quite similar from what I've read but originally Necas seemed to be the guy most wantes (of that type of player) Because he played with dahlen in timra, and he has more points even though it's in a lower tier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, Baratheon said: With Pettersson gaining momentum with fans I am curious as to why you guys want him over Necas? Keep in mind that I haven't seen either one play a whole lot aside from World Juniors. They sound quite similar from what I've read but originally Necas seemed to be the guy most wantes (of that type of player) Necas looks like he's a better skater and has (projects to have) better size. Pett arguably better vision/hands (though Necas is no slouch). I have Pettersson one after Necas personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, HomeBrew said: There is a difference between wanting goons and wanting a player that can stay on his feet. I don't know if anyone is really advocating for prospects that have "bruiser" or "goon" qualities to them, just NHL size. Most people don't want Rasmussen for this very reason - because his size covers a lack of true skill. I, along with other people on here, are advocating for players that can play their game without being tossed off the puck by someone who is big by NHL standards. Hey man I totally get it that it's nice to have a total package player straight out of the draft, Petterson will never be a physical player, but he is listed at 6'2. He is a string bean at 165 lbs but if he adds some muscle to that frame the sky is the limit for Pettersson. I just don't want to have another Virtanen/Nylander/Ehlers situation where we pick the kid who's more physically mature than the others who were more skilled. I still believe in Virtanen, but the honest truth is Ehlers or Nylander would look pretty damn good in blue green and white. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, HomeBrew said: Pettersson was ranked 20 by International Scouting Services (ISS Hockey) in their final rankings... Also 5 by hockeyprospects, 8 by Craig Button and 8 by future considerations. Not saying we should defs pick him but not out of the question especially with this drafts volitility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) I will literally be happy with whom ever Benning drafts at 5. All of the players available in our spot have legitimate potential and will be a foundational piece in this clubs rebuild. With that being said, in order of preference I would like. 1. Necas - playmaking centre 2. Mittelstadt - playmaking centre 3. Petersson - playmaking centre 4. Heiskanen - top 4 D/ PP QB Edited June 10, 2017 by Camel Toe Drag Spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 3 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: How would you feel if they took Tippet or Heiskanen? How would you feel if they took Makar or Petterson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 4 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: How would you feel if they took Tippet... I know how I'd feel. The same I felt when they announced Jake Virtanen. "You chose him far too early, because?" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krinjer33 Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 08/06/2017 at 9:21 AM, CaptainLinden16 said: I had no idea Casey Mittelstadt looked like this. That is an incredibly goofy looking kid. I say hard pass on this guy. That is a face only a mother would love. He looks like a hybrid of Joffrey Baratheon and Hawkeye Pierce from M*A*S*H. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 6/7/2017 at 4:30 PM, canuckledraggin said: If there was a Tanev trade, would people be more interested in the Dallas 3rd overall or the Toronto Kapanen + 17th. I'm more partial to the TO. deal because Kapanen is already a player and we could possibly get Cal Foote as a Tanev replacement. If we got the 3rd, which way would people pick? Take Vilardi at #3 and Heiskanen/ Makar at 5? Just curious... The Dallas deal, and it's not even close. We already have winger prospects on Kapanen's level, and 17th overall takes us out of the 2nd tier of prospects in this draft (from 3 to about 12 or 13). I'd much rather go for quality than quantity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_Lu1ngo Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 4 hours ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: I've only watched both on TV. I think Vilardi's game doesn't look sexy at all (and that's putting it nicely), but the thing that he has that is so unique is that he seems to have a "spidey sense" of both the puck and the pressure. I'm watching him, and I go, "how the heck did he know to put his stick there just where the rebound is going to be?" or "(with him near the boards with the puck) how did he just escape being pinned by the D-man who was approaching him at the right angle?" That happens way too frequently that I can't attribute it to luck any more. That's why his puck possession numbers are so insane. I think Vilardi has a nhl ready size and strength as well as nhl ready "board play." He might not be the greatest open ice or off the rush player at the top of the draft but he is going to play a pro game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Krinjer33 said: He looks like a hybrid of Joffrey Baratheon and Hawkeye Pierce from M*A*S*H. The last time we drafted a guy that looks like that we got 2 of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Would anyone trade down with Vegas to guarentee they pick someone we dont want? Maybe they even add in a 3rd rounder? Either that or we expose someone they do want in return for their first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Baratheon said: With Pettersson gaining momentum with fans I am curious as to why you guys want him over Necas? Keep in mind that I haven't seen either one play a whole lot aside from World Juniors. They sound quite similar from what I've read but originally Necas seemed to be the guy most wantes (of that type of player) bandwagon. Ironically consensus rankings have necas rated higher I personally have him rated higher but its close, Seguin vs Hall close. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yxwEPYJ7lG6oxKsKnX62e-u8P9saQnUAXrtWVFhCFzg/edit?usp=sharing Edited June 10, 2017 by MoneypuckOverlord 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 53 minutes ago, Krinjer33 said: He looks like a hybrid of Joffrey Baratheon and Hawkeye Pierce from M*A*S*H. looks like he left a snack in his shorts trying that pull up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 39 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: bandwagon. Ironically consensus rankings have necas rated higher I personally have him rated higher but its close, Seguin vs Hall close. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yxwEPYJ7lG6oxKsKnX62e-u8P9saQnUAXrtWVFhCFzg/edit?usp=sharing Thanks for that. Interesting to look through. I think if what JR said about Necas being the better skater then that's what tips the scale for me. Such a fascinating draft that could go so many ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I'd be fine with Vilardi, Glass, or Pettersson. Those are my ideal players at 5. Vilardi (should he fall to 5) or Glass definitely are the safer choices, but I have a sneaking suspicion Pettersson might end up being the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft. He's obviously got a bit more bust potential than the other two, but I really like the skillset that he carries. I wouldn't be mad at all should Benning decide to select him. I'm really not big on Makar or Middlestadt, I think both have great potential but a little too much risk attached to them. Makar would be an interesting dynamic defenseman to pair with Juolevi's style, but they'd lack a little bit of grit. Middlestadt's going to be a longer term project player through the college system. He's definitely got an interesting skill set, but I don't think he's the ideal pick. It's a weak draft, but definitely an interesting one. It'll be neat to see how it shapes up in a few years once these guys are developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 13 hours ago, J.R. said: Nope, I'm in the 'good player but likely behind Glass, Mittelstadt at C' group...I might even ponder Necas or Pettersson ahead of him (Necas is risky but something about him makes my spidy senses tingle). Then there's Makar, Liljegrin and Heiskanen. Perhaps some Pastrnakian echoes are triggering? I wouldn't be upset if they determine a Necas or Pettersson to be the BPA at 5, but despite Pettersson's skills I'm wary that he turns out less like Nylander but more a perimeter player that can't get to the net nor battle along the boards. Necas has the added dimension of grit to his game, including doing so in international competition. Thinking he's likely to have a higher floor even if a lesser potential ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odd. Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) I'd be happy with any of Mittlestadt/Glass/Vilardi and I'd be okay with Pettersson. I do not want us to draft Tippett, Rasmussen and Necas, not with our 5th. Vilardi has really grown on me. In the memorial cup, he went absolutely beastmode and really showed what kind of potential he has, especially in the playoffs coming up clutch. What really amazes me is how he protects the puck using his frame and rarely ever loses the puck down low despite not being a strong skater. I can't really remember why I had a dislike for Vilardi. Mainly because of his skating but never really had any reason. Personally, I still go with Mittlestadt as he brings a lot more to the table. Yes there's a slight amount of risk to him, but Benning loves the college route and Mittlestadt would fit perfectly with the timeline of our rebuild, retool, whatever you wanna call it. You never know, Mittlestadt could have a Keller type college season and sign with us immediately. Glass is a solid choice too especially with Green at the realm. Edited June 10, 2017 by Odd. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Krinjer33 said: He looks like a hybrid of Joffrey Baratheon and Hawkeye Pierce from M*A*S*H. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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