Popular Post AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, luckylager said: I'm never a big fan of trading first round draft picks, but I've always accepted you need to give quality to get quality. It's kinda funny reading people just howl over it. Miller will have an immediate impact, the 10-32 pick in 2021 won't make an impact for 3 years, if ever. We've needed a heavy, skilled, top 6 LW for YEARS. We finally trade for one, manage to keep all of our prospects and people wanna cry about a 10-32 OA pick. Boohoo I like this move by JB. Go get us a legit RD. Let's win some &^@#ing games dammit! Amen, now I feel like giving a round of beers 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Googlie said: If we make the playoffs first year, then second year isn't in play. And TBL's pick will be 17th or worse 20, the Canucks always move down 3 spots 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Kane is the better of the three. Go ahead, show me stats to prove me wrong. Kane is still better. He is better and paid $2 million more. Evander Kane signed a 7 year / $49,000,000 contract with the San Jose Sharks, including a $12,000,000 signing bonus, $49,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $7,000,000. In 2019-20, Kane will earn a base salary of $6,000,000 and a signing bonus of $2,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $7,000,000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, stawns said: A certain elements of the fanbase was already on the ledge from that rumour, so trading a first was the dagger in the heart I mean... that element lives on the ledge so there tend to be a lot of daggers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, luckylager said: I'm never a big fan of trading first round draft picks, but I've always accepted you need to give quality to get quality. It's kinda funny reading people just howl over it. Miller will have an immediate impact, the 10-32 pick in 2021 won't make an impact for 3 years, if ever. We've needed a heavy, skilled, top 6 LW for YEARS. We finally trade for one, manage to keep all of our prospects and people wanna cry about a 10-32 OA pick. Boohoo I like this move by JB. Go get us a legit RD. Let's win some &^@#ing games dammit! Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheRocket18 Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) if miller cannot crack 70 on the PP with stamkos, kucherov, Hedman and point... he won’t do that with Vancouver. He even played on wings of point and stamkos most of the year. Not happening. You clearly don't know how the Tampa PP operated if you think he should've been scoring more on there. He was played below the goal line and was tasked with doing all the puck retrievel behind the net and in the corners. He got the puck passed it to either Stamkos or Kucherov depending on which half wall they were on, they went to Hedman who them went to either Stamkos or Kucherov for the one timer. So Miller did the dirty work but got no points because he was the 3rd to touch the puck. He did set up Point in the slot a lot so if you have a net front guy he'll find them. He hardly played on Points wing at all. He was with Stamkos some but only when Palat was injured. Cooper wanted his guys, Johnson and Palat, in the top 6 so Miller was left with bottom 6 duty. When he played with Stamkos and Kucherov after being traded for he put up 18 points in 19 games, so the potential to produce with good players is there. found this snippet.., thought all would enjoy https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/van-tbl-j-t-miller-for-marek-mazanec-2019-3rd-round-pick-and-2020-conditional-1st-round-pick.2659733/page-16 Edited June 23, 2019 by TheRocket18 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sonoman Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Trebreh said: yes and im not too worried about Calgary, they are chokers. imagine having multiple players with career years and still almost got swept in the 1st round by a one line team I see them as a bubble team next season tbh, they had a lot of things go right for them last season. 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense Presuming he would even agree to come here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, cuporbust said: Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense I'd have been happy with Trouba. Sorry, I haven't been engaged with much outside of the family AND CDC today Trouba got traded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, sonoman said: That’s amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grandmaster Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, luckylager said: I'm never a big fan of trading first round draft picks, but I've always accepted you need to give quality to get quality. It's kinda funny reading people just howl over it. Miller will have an immediate impact, the 10-32 pick in 2021 won't make an impact for 3 years, if ever. We've needed a heavy, skilled, top 6 LW for YEARS. We finally trade for one, manage to keep all of our prospects and people wanna cry about a 10-32 OA pick. Boohoo I like this move by JB. Go get us a legit RD. Let's win some &^@#ing games dammit! Best post of the day 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_impersonator13 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I am fine with this trade. Adds some size to the top 6. Blues had a nice mix of speed and size. In the playoffs you can't expect to last with a bunch of midgits. Miller Pettersson Boeser Baertschi Horvat Pearson Virtanen Gaudette Leivo Roussel Beagle Motte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense We could not have had trouba. He would not extend with a Canadian team. Jeebus... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense For one more year, then he'd bolt or be paid close to double what Miller will get for the next 4 seasons. Not even remotely the same 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Trebreh said: yes and im not too worried about Calgary, they are chokers. imagine having multiple players with career years and still almost got swept in the 1st round by a one line team I see them as a bubble team next season tbh, they had a lot of things go right for them last season. With all due respect, Calgary, Nashville, Washington and Tampa Bay were all leading their divisions and they were all eliminated in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense Except Trouba wanted out of Canada... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Well 4 the same price he could have had Trouba (the jets top scorring dman), but hey, todays deal made more sense cuporbust; a lot of deception in this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, Me_ said: With all due respect, Calgary, Nashville, Washington and Tampa Bay were all leading their divisions and they were all eliminated in the first round. Yeah, but I agree that Calgary has other issues. They seem to be built for the regular season, or at least have regular season type players. Not enough grit or fortitude when the going gets tough, and their goaltending is STILL questionable, plus being up against the cap needing to sign Tkachuk and others. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Intially, I thought the Canucks paid too much. Now, I think it's an even trade. Gave up a 1st round and 3rd round pick, but received a TOP 6 NHL gritty, heavy power forward with skills. Miller was a 1st rounder (15th overall) in his draft year. Is he the 216 lbs Burrows for Petty and the Flow? JB said he was going to find a top 6 forward and a top 4 D man. One down and one to go. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Took some time to sit on this and think about it. Looks like JB is on the clock, claiming the rebuild is over and he's banking on the team having major progression over the next two seasons. Overall JT is still young and locked up on a decent cap hit, so the first question is, was he worth a first? The answer is.....yes he probably is.... But the question canucks fans need to be asking is....Is that a price we can afford to make?....And that answer is....we will see, personally i'm not a big fan of moving picks that far into the future..There are too many variables to go against you. Reason being, you immediately loose value on that pick and going forwards Tampa bay gets to play with house money. Canucks aren't a JT miller away from being a contender. We aren't a JT miller away from even being a playoff lock. We still have some major missing pieces and it starts with that D core. That is the position canucks needed to be looking to move assets for to improve. Not the nice to have player like Miller.. Realistically the Miller player is the type you look to find in UFA. This year it's Dzingel, Nyquist, Lee, Ferklund and Connolly that fill a similar roll and likely for a similar price tag (maybe slightly higher). Going after a player like that in UFA allows you to use those value assets to move for a bigger need... a need that you can't typically (and wont this year) fill from UFA. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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