riffraff Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 The Edmonton Oilers; where first round picks die. In short, the Oil draft you? Run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Alflives said: I agree, but they were trying to trade him, so he needed to play on the big team to have any value. No, they’re stuck. He needs to play on small ice in the AHL to learn, but he needs waivers. Unless Holland will take a Goldy type player (decent player with upside who also needs waivers) or a third round pick I see JP playing this season in Europe. this is why I'm pretty happy - now - to have Podkolzin marinating in the KHL. He needs more time too and thats being taken care of nicely for us. You were totally right about being excited about this kid in the pre-draft yap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Provost said: Easier to say that in Detroit, vs. Edmonton who is facing more years of losing and has the best player on the planet wasting their prime years. If he wanted to draft and develop from what he has, he has to trade McDavid and Draisaitl for picks and start over again. Starting from now, they won’t have a critical mass of elite prospects coming up until it is too late for those guys. They have at best a middle of the pack prospect pool at the moment. There is a reason they had to bribe him to take the job. There is no good option other than shuffle things a little and hope for the best. Draisaitl was drafted the same year as Virtanen. McDavid the same year as Boeser. Don't really know Edmonton's prospects but are they that much weaker than Vancouver's prospect pool. Holland sounded enthusiastic enough watching them during the AHL playoffs - warns that it was a small sample size but liked what he saw. Holland took the job in Edmonton under the condition that he would have full control. Don't think he's going to rush things - in Detroit he really insisted on patience. Under Chiarelli there was no plan - it was bandaid after bandaid. Holland seems to have a plan. Very different to play for a team where there is a strategy in place to win a Cup vs just shuffle things and hope it works out. Would think that Holland has spoken with McDavid about his vision on how to get the team to become legit contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Heffy Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, BCNeil said: Strictly because it is easier to say and spell....I don't imagine his teammates call him that. Once your spellcheck learns his name its all good. Maybe they do call him that and that's part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Holland will get a return that the market will bear, or JP will be in Europe for this full season. I’d see a guy like Goldy as fair. Another top six guy with skill, who is now waiver eligible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Holland will get a return that the market will bear, or JP will be in Europe for this full season. I’d see a guy like Goldy as fair. Another top six guy with skill, who is now waiver eligible. Goldy lost 15 pounds over the summer. He's leaner and likely much faster! I don't see him getting top 6 opportunity here unless baercheese gets moved and Ferland plays on the third line. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, Rush17 said: Goldy lost 15 pounds over the summer. He's leaner and likely much faster! I don't see him getting top 6 opportunity here unless baercheese gets moved and Ferland plays on the third line. Holy crap! Goldy is down 15 pounds? Now I’m super excited to see him play. I know Green said he wanted Goldy to be faster through the neutral zone. I think a 15 pound lighter Goldy might impress A LOT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: then leave him in the AHL for an entire year with that job in mind. I don't think many guys can learn an NHL checking role on the fly. Whoa..... AHL coaches yell at players and say hurtful things. He’s better off in Europe where advanced coaching techniques are practiced. Did I do that right? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alflives said: Holy crap! Goldy is down 15 pounds? Now I’m super excited to see him play. I know Green said he wanted Goldy to be faster through the neutral zone. I think a 15 pound lighter Goldy might impress A LOT! Goldy already plays light, so does shedding 15 lbs really make him tougher to play against? If it indeed helps his speed and agility then great, but not sure how that's going to help him win more battles. I guess he's trying to channel his inner EP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sounds like a Lind and a 2nd type deal is what they are looking for IMO. Although if they want more help now, they'd probably want a Gaudette and a 3rd. Not saying I would do either of those deals, but that's what they would be targeting I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: 33 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Sounds like a Lind and a 2nd type deal is what they are looking for IMO. Although if they want more help now, they'd probably want a Gaudette and a 3rd. Not saying I would do either of those deals, but that's what they would be targeting I would think. Good luck getting that sort of value, probably why he hasn’t moved yet. Counter with a 6th and Karlsson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, riffraff said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Alflives said: Summer is over in Edmonton, and the POOL is closed for the season. winner winner, feline dinner! Nice one, Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I remember when people were hoping that Puljujarvi would fall to us in the draft and thought the Oilers were so lucky to have him drop to them. Amazing how a few years changes things. At least Juolevi wants to play for us and is still showing a lot of promise. I know everyone thinks we should have taken Tkachuk but it could have been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: Goldy already plays light, so does shedding 15 lbs really make him tougher to play against? If it indeed helps his speed and agility then great, but not sure how that's going to help him win more battles. I guess he's trying to channel his inner EP? A loss of 15 pounds puts him around 181 pounds. About the same as what the Sedins played at. If he is going to play light, he might as well actually BE light so that he can take advantage of using speed and skill better 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, The_Rocket said: A loss of 15 pounds puts him around 181 pounds. About the same as what the Sedins played at. If he is going to play light, he might as well actually BE light so that he can take advantage of using speed and skill better Problem is that he's playing so light that it's unacceptable. Not sure how it's any better that he's not going to the dirty areas because he's too small instead of because he's too lazy. End result is the same: not good enough to play in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrippledCanuck Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Loui Eriksson for Poolparty, Best and final offer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, PistolPete13 said: Whoa..... AHL coaches yell at players and say hurtful things. He’s better off in Europe where advanced coaching techniques are practiced. Did I do that right? wait... don't tell me Timrafan spawned Karpatfan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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