Timråfan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, the grinder said: not off the top of my head but tryamkin would be a good at ragdolling about now But Tryamkin likes to play hockey, not be a goon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapShot Posted September 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Same $&!#, different year. Didn't want to say anything because we won and everyone seemed happy, but where the &^@# was the pushback? We're supposed to be a tougher team to play against, and there was absolutely no pushback. This in particular pissed me off. No, Travis. It's not a &^@#ing hockey play. He hit Boeser in the numbers 4 feet from the goddamn boards. If this is the coaches reaction to a dirty hit that results in a concussion to one of our star players, it's no wonder other teams feel like they can take advantage of us. Grow some goddamn balls, Travis. For &^@#s sake. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, BPA said: JV reminds me of a combination of David Booth and Steve Bernier. You can see the potential and want him to reach it. But ultimately doesn't pan out and is just a 3rd liner. Booth was actually pretty good in Florida before the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: Jake did make that one bad pass but the rest of the game he did the little thing rights and had a good back check and had a good chance out front....he was also trying to be a pest in front of Marky until Myers and him skated away maybe I watched a different game then you While he did have the good back check and showed his speed, he let the check go right as the shot was taken, lucky there was no rebound. He seems to lose focus mid shift a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said: I agree I wanted more from him but he didn't hurt the team last night. Also to be fair , didn't see much of him cause of the PPs and the pks. Playing with beagle and schaller don't scream scoring chances.... True but if he doesn't play better that's where TG will staple his ***. With his attributes and potential there must be a reason(s) the coach won't play him on the PK / PP and puts him with the aforementioned players. Coaches put players in positions that they are suited for or have the best opportunity to help the team win. I think the fact you said he didn't hurt the team is exactly how much faith/confidence TG has in him right now. That doesn't bode well for Jake in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said: True ha but if I remember right tram didn't like the fact that he had to fight after clean hits.... I wish reeves could be on the market. , ya but he still did kinda fight , but I rather have nikita crush ya everytime you touch the puck and then get ragdoll every time ya try to mess with him , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Booth was actually pretty good in Florida before the injuries. Ya but he was primarily a 20-30pt player when playing for Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Timråfan said: But Tryamkin likes to play hockey, not be a goon... I never said tryamkin is a goon , tryamkin is more of chara type throw them when he has to and crushing hits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Yes Travis this is a hockey play. https://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks-winger-brock-boeser-in-concussion-protocol/wcm/99a435b1-75fa-4d84-804b-e94a4e0d2915 Edited September 24, 2019 by Borvat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, BPA said: JV reminds me of a combination of David Booth and Steve Bernier. You can see the potential and want him to reach it. But ultimately doesn't pan out and is just a 3rd liner. I heard the guys on 650 comparing jake to Curtis lazar ,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted September 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2019 I've been a huge supporter of Green, but if he's stopping players from retaliating for dirty hits in the preseason, he's a big part of the problem. Was hoping the moves this off-season signified a culture change where our guys would stand up for each other. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Borvat said: True but if he doesn't play better that's where TG will staple his ***. With his attributes and potential there must be a reason(s) the coach won't play him on the PK / PP and puts him with the aforementioned players. Coaches put players in positions that they are suited for or have the best opportunity to help the team win. I think the fact you said he didn't hurt the team is exactly how much faith/confidence TG has in him right now. That doesn't bode well for Jake in the long run. I agree but most nights when he doesn't really show up, he still plays a decent 200 ft game....that's what green wanted from him... i like him on a shut down line... I think if he had a target on the other team and made that player pay every time he touches the puck, his game would come to him. I wish we had a play making third line center instead of sutter but. I think once the season starts Jake with will be on the third line again until he shows , his ready to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: I agree but most nights when he doesn't really show up, he still plays a decent 200 ft game....that's what green wanted from him... i like him on a shut down line... I think if he had a target on the other team and made that player pay every time he touches the puck, his game would come to him. I wish we had a play making third line center instead of sutter but. I think once the season starts Jake with will be on the third line again until he shows , his ready to move up. I have him starting on the fourth line at this point with the current depth (barring more concussions) but hopefully he moves up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 They should hire a fighting coach to teach everybody how to fight on skates. How to grab the jerseys and throw jabs and haymakers. Then see an all out brawl where Canucks stand on top. Imagine EP40 and BB6 putting up points AND physically beating the competition. Not saying they need to fight all the time. But when push comes to shove, you need to man up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, BPA said: They should hire a fighting coach to teach everybody how to fight on skates. How to grab the jerseys and throw jabs and haymakers. Then see an all out brawl where Canucks stand on top. Imagine EP40 and BB6 putting up points AND physically beating the competition. Not saying they need to fight all the time. But when push comes to shove, you need to man up. Problem is Green probably still tell the boys to let it go.....we will win the game instead.....in honour of Brock or who ever got injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 That hit should be suspendable, very dangerous gap between player and the boards and Tierney would have seen boesers numbers. Eerily similar to the lack of respect on the Matheson hit on Petey. The reason a hit like that goes down is a lack of respect/fear of retribution by the Sens. If there was more respect you wouldn’t see that. The boys need to send a physical message hitting the Sens top guys every chance they get in the rematch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: Just go on YouTube and look up Jake virtanen hits. You might be surprised I think Nashville's response here is exactly what the fans want and expect when bad plays are made against us - like the one on Boeser. This is what other teams do, and it is exactly what we should be doing. We need to show some level of response to this crap. Travis says its just a "hockey play", but you know what else is a "hockey play"? Dropping 'em and making a statement! &^@# the 2min penalty if you get one! Show some, what Sutter would say, grit and balls! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kushman Posted September 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, Borvat said: Yes Travis this is a hockey play. https://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks-winger-brock-boeser-in-concussion-protocol/wcm/99a435b1-75fa-4d84-804b-e94a4e0d2915 I'm dumbfounded that Green can go out there with a straight face and say that it was a "hockey play". Boeser got stapled in the numbers head first into the boards. Last season I thought the team simply lacked the grit to push back, but with the signings the team made this offseason, there should be no excuse. Two guys get crunched on dirty plays and it's the same old Vancouver cancucks. Starting to think green is the big problem here... He always has an excuse for the other team taking out our guys. Hockey play my ass ffs. Its the damn preseason. Who cares if you take a penalty or even a game misconduct to send a message that taking liberties on our top guys will NOT BE TOLERATED. Nope. Let's pretend all is good and just hockey plays. Maybe green has taken to many hockey plays to his own head that hes not seeing clearly. 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, BPA said: They should hire a fighting coach to teach everybody how to fight on skates. How to grab the jerseys and throw jabs and haymakers. Then see an all out brawl where Canucks stand on top. Imagine EP40 and BB6 putting up points AND physically beating the competition. Not saying they need to fight all the time. But when push comes to shove, you need to man up. You may be joking but I think that you are closer to what's needed than you may be thinking. Not necessarily fighting, but I would like every single player in the organization to fully embrace the fact that this is a contact game. We need to work on a culture of team toughness. I don't really think that toughness is about how many fighters a team has, it's more about the whole team's attitude. Not everyone has to fight but I do think that everyone, and I mean everyone, has to be prepared to make a hit now and then and take a hit now and then to make a play. And also stick up for each other. It's not certain people's job alone to stick up for their teammates every single player needs to have each other's back out there. We have enough big bodies now but we still have to work on that culture of team toughness. If we are going to go anywhere when we make the playoffs that team cohesion is really needed, but it doesn't just come out of thin air, it has to be cultivated and entrenched. We made a few hits last night against Ottawa but we were still lacking in the toughness department. I'm not saying that we have to turn every pre-season game into a slug-fest, it's a long season, but I am suggesting that we need to be a little more aggressive as a whole team. Ottawa was clearly the aggressor and I think it actually helped them make the game closer than it should have been. Anyway the time to set the right tone is now! Go Canucks Go! Edited September 24, 2019 by nux_win typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, nux_win said: You may be joking but I think that you are closer to what's needed than you may be thinking. Not necessarily fighting, but I would like every single player in the organization to fully embrace the fact that this is a contact game. We need to work on a culture of team toughness. I don't really think that toughness is about how many fighters a team has, it's more about the whole team's attitude. Not everyone has to fight but I do think that everyone, and I mean everyone, has to be prepared to make a hit now and then and take a hit now and then to make a play. And also stick up for each other. It's not certain people's job alone to stick up for their teammates every singly player needs to have each other's back out there. We have enough big bodies now but we still have to work on that culture of team toughness. If we are going to go anywhere when we make the playoffs that team cohesion is really needed, but it doesn't just come out of thin air, it has to be cultivated and entrenched. We made a few hits last night against Ottawa but we were still lacking in the toughness department. I'm not saying that we have to turn every pre-season game into a slug-fest, it's a long season, but I am suggesting that we need to be a little more aggressive as a whole team. Ottawa was clearly the aggressor and I think it actually helped them make the game closer than it should have been. Anyway the time to set the right tone is now! Go Canucks Go! I agree that Team Toughness needs to be amped up a bit. When you play team sports, you remember those who stick up for you. And you play harder for them as well. Turning the other cheek to max out a PP didn't do too well during the Sedins era. I don't see it boding well for Vancouver if they keep following the same script. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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