JeremyCuddles Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Want future's to kick start a rebuild, at what point has this team not been in a rebuild? Lol. Have they ever had a meaningful stretch of not being ass? I guess the 09/10 to 11/12 stretch is pretty close. 3 straight playoff appearances. But since then they've done nothing meaningful. They been in a rebuild since that 11/12 season. And again, I don't count the qualifying round as true playoffs. So this season doesn't even count as a successful season in my books. Whatever, if they wanna "kick start" a rebuild that's there business. With OEL's lack of a legit list this is a good chance at trying to out lowball the Coyotes with the Bruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, N7Nucks said: Want future's to kick start a rebuild, at what point has this team not been in a rebuild? Lol. Have they ever had a meaningful stretch of not being ass? I guess the 09/10 to 11/12 stretch is pretty close. 3 straight playoff appearances. But since then they've done nothing meaningful. They been in a rebuild since that 11/12 season. And again, I don't count the qualifying round as true playoffs. So this season doesn't even count as a successful season in my books. Whatever, if they wanna "kick start" a rebuild that's there business. With OEL's lack of a legit list this is a good chance at trying to out lowball the Coyotes with the Bruins. They made it to the playoffs by beating Nashville in the qualifying round. Still a disaster of a franchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 hours ago, ktcy2 said: People are seeing way too much value in Boeser. Let’s face it, he had a good rookie but then....... Hoglander might not pan out, he is not a top tier prospect. If this is what it takes to get rid of Eriksson and Boeser’s contracts, it’s worth it. People don’t seem to think there is a concern with BB’s contract. I really don’t understand why. An 8 plus million 20 to 25 goal scorer who is slow on his feet? Really? Boeser is not a bad player but an 8 plus million player when you already have Petey and Hughes? How? Please explain how we can pay a 20-25 goal scorer 8 plus million down the road. If you can figure out the math please let me know. 8 plus would be great - means he’s. 35-40 goal scorer not a 20-25 one. As for his qualifying offer we can always take him to arbitration if that value doesn’t make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Wilbur said: While I agree with your sentiment, I don't see the NHL doing this as it would open a can of worms across the league with other dead cap space situations. It's much easier to let the Canuck sit with this for a couple more years and be done with it. Unfair of course, but the easiest path for the league to take. Pronger Robidas Hossa Datsyuk There's a significant history of what is essentially open cap recapture circumvention. It's got legs imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Pronger Robidas Hossa Datsyuk There's a significant history of what is essentially open cap recapture circumvention. It's got legs imo the difference is those were all contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, tas said: the difference is those were all contracts. And Luongo’s is a contract too. Have my doubts the league would allow this but for sure their is a precedent it’s been done before. Edited October 5, 2020 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, tas said: the difference is those were all contracts. All contracts yes But all retired or "sick/injured" players who everyone knew would never finish out their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 hours ago, N7Nucks said: Want future's to kick start a rebuild, at what point has this team not been in a rebuild? Lol. Have they ever had a meaningful stretch of not being ass? I guess the 09/10 to 11/12 stretch is pretty close. 3 straight playoff appearances. But since then they've done nothing meaningful. They been in a rebuild since that 11/12 season. And again, I don't count the qualifying round as true playoffs. So this season doesn't even count as a successful season in my books. Whatever, if they wanna "kick start" a rebuild that's there business. With OEL's lack of a legit list this is a good chance at trying to out lowball the Coyotes with the Bruins. I mean, Chayka really screwed the pooch before he bolted... Armstrong doesn't really have much of a choice but to rebuild, and with the cap the way it is, he's gonna have a hard time not looking like a fool as he tries to get his roster in order with other teams looking to take advantage of their situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, IBatch said: And Luongo’s is a contract too. Have my doubts the league would allow this but for sure their is a precedent it’s been done before. no, it's not. luongo's contract would have been terminated when he retired. what's left on the Canucks payroll is a penallty, or tax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laoag Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, buddyguy said: I'm skeptical, yet excited at the same time. If we let Marky go then we might have room to re-sign Tanev too. With OEL our D would look like this: Hughes - Tanev Ekman-Larsson - Myers Edler - Stecher Not too shabby at all. With rathbone, OJ, rafferty and possibly tryamkin knocking at the door as well. Edited October 5, 2020 by Laoag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The more that comes out, the more I’m starting to think I was wrong about his value. This might be a very rare situation where a top pairing Dman can be had for peanuts. Sounds like the coyotes want to be out from that contract pretty bad. I genuinely thought it would start with Boeser and a 1st, as any proposals for a top dman would be. But it looks like a couple rookies and a camp dump might get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Arizona has to be waiting on what Boston does with Krug. Hopefully the offers are really low like 2nd round pick and Jake Virtanen / mid prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, tas said: the difference is those were all contracts. Not sure what you mean by those were all contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) sutter beartschi virtanen OJ Rafferty for OEL thats 2 cap dumps for this year only so ARZ saves a huge money and they get 3 cheap good young players Edited October 5, 2020 by Canucks Curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, rekker said: Not sure what you mean by those were all contracts. The Luongo cap hit is a recapture penalty, not a contract. All the other examples were still active contracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Gotta admit if Boston gets him on some bargain deal I'm gonna be bummed. Adding a player like OEL would really solidify the defense for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, IBatch said: 8 plus would be great - means he’s. 35-40 goal scorer not a 20-25 one. As for his qualifying offer we can always take him to arbitration if that value doesn’t make sense. Taking a player to arbitration is generally the beginning of the end of the relationship. It’s an ugly process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, rekker said: Gotta admit if Boston gets him on some bargain deal I'm gonna be bummed. Adding a player like OEL would really solidify the defense for years. sure, but this is also one of those situations where we don't really have to do anything. This is very nice to get at the right price but by no means an exorbitant price. I like that Jim is big game hunting but also will be happy if he gets to try to take advantage of the UFA market as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Dhaliwal is saying that the Canucks have two priorities right now: Marky and OEL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-bruins-key-players-oliver-ekman-larsson-market/ Quote OEL This much we know: Oliver Ekman-Larsson has almost certainly played his last game for the Arizona Coyotes, and he’d like to play his next one for either the Vancouver Canucks or Boston Bruins. Attempts to get the Coyotes captain to expand the list of destinations he’d waive a no-movement clause for have proven unsuccessful. Ekman-Larsson feels he signed with Arizona in good faith and if the Coyotes want to move on, he’s earned the right to use his NMC. So, barring a last-minute change of heart, it’s either going to be Vancouver or Boston. Neither of those teams owns its 2020 first-round pick, which means a potential return likely starts with a 2021 first and includes a prospect, plus another pick. This isn’t an easy deal for new Arizona general manager Bill Armstrong to maneuver because he’s dealing with a limited market. The Coyotes like Boston’s prospects more than Vancouver’s, but, on the weekend, it seemed like the Canucks were the more motivated buyer, liking the idea of a long-time left side of Ekman-Larsson and Quinn Hughes. It is believed Arizona asked about Thatcher Demko, which would have been a non-starter. Armstrong was in St. Louis when the Blues acquired Ryan O’Reilly in a package that included a first-rounder, a second-rounder and Tage Thompson. It would make sense if he tried to model this deal after that one. Everyone’s grinding away here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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