Bertuzzipunch Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Probably could get a cheap one from seattle lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGokou Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Dazzle said: You're telling me that you were privy to a particular prospect more than other scouts? It would've been believable if you said Glass was 5 because a lot of mock drafts had him there. But to say you had Pettersson ranked there is not at all believable. Only one source put him at 5. The rest were quite diverse. One source didn't even put him in the first round! Unfortunately for you, I did a search and saw that you didn't write a lot about Dobson OR Pettersson. Why do you have to lie? Yawn. Just because a search doesn't have a name in it doesn't mean I'm not talking about that person. Most of my posts are quoting someone else. Here is the Caufield pick. 2019 NHL Entry Draft in Vancouver, BC in Prospects / In the System Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 11:23 AM, stawns said: I'd take Caufield over any dman not named Byram. Not even close for me. If they get Caufield at #10, we should all be jumping for joy. Same here. Everyone likes to make excuses for why he won't get be a good player. Ie. Skating, size, playoffs etc. His elite talent will shine through regardless of his 'short'comings. I expect his floor to be 25 goals and potentially upwards of 40 goals in his prime as his upside. Here are some posts about Dobson: Report 2018 NHL Entry Draft in Prospects / In the System Posted June 2, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 9:32 PM, Isam said: Huh. Dobson is probably the fastest chl defenseman in the draft and probably one of the top five skaters overall. Also, what makes you think his offensive game is only gonna 30 points in his prime? Agreed. I think 30 points is his floor... 2018 NHL Entry Draft in Prospects / In the System Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 9:02 PM, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: The defining moment for me is how the draft went down and JB’s post pick reaction. I truly belive in thus clubs scouting. JB got his guy. That was clear and that alone should speak volumes. What do I know as a fan compared to the guys who drafted Boeser, OJ, Pettersson, Gaudette etc.. since Judd Brackett this team has picked the right guy more than not. The reality is that Quinn was fully expected to be taken prior to our selection and many of us did want Dobson or Bouchard. They could still prove to be better picks. But our guy is Hughes. So enjoy his potential. JB had his choice of d man and choose Hughes over the other three. I down with that. To the auto bashing of Bouchard and Dobson, still believe in them as a players. Don’t think anyone needs to smear other picks. Expand Dobson was my guy but I had Hughes right behind. Time will tell who will be the better defenseman but I hope both can succeed to do well in this league. I couldn't find much on Pettersson so I'm gonna let you take the win on that one. I actually didn't post much that draft which is unlike me. Based on my few posts though if Makar had been available I would've picked him. This is what I had to say about the Virtanen draft and picking Ehlers: Im a little warmer to the idea of drafting Virtanen. It's not because he has a great shot, skating or tenacity. The main reason I pick Virtanen over the other prospects is that I see him at worst a really good 3rd line hockey player but most likely an upside of 2nd line winger, MAYBE a 1st line winger...hence a really safe pick. Also what intrigues me the most is that he is one of the youngest of his draft class and will have ample time to hone his skill. I think Virtanen is maybe more of a project than some of the other prospects, and I expect him to take minimum 3 years to make it to the NHL and should not be rushed. I still think his potential upside is less than Ehlers and comparable with Ritchie but is most likely the safest pick of the three. I pick Ehlers if I want the most exciting game-breaker and score 70 + points. He will instantly increase the speed of the team and would likely be the team's leading scorer after the Sedins retire/fade. Would be an instant fan-favourite. On the other hand, I don't see him as a total bust but maybe 20g 20a 40 point scorer playing on second line at worst(?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 20 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: I keep asking................what is the one position we do not have a key player in The answer is...............a Right Hand Dman The next question is.................... When is the next time we will be in position to go after one? So lets do it! Heimosalmi it is! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, TGokou said: Yawn. Just because a search doesn't have a name in it doesn't mean I'm not talking about that person. Most of my posts are quoting someone else. Here is the Caufield pick. 2019 NHL Entry Draft in Vancouver, BC in Prospects / In the System Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 11:23 AM, stawns said: I'd take Caufield over any dman not named Byram. Not even close for me. If they get Caufield at #10, we should all be jumping for joy. Same here. Everyone likes to make excuses for why he won't get be a good player. Ie. Skating, size, playoffs etc. His elite talent will shine through regardless of his 'short'comings. I expect his floor to be 25 goals and potentially upwards of 40 goals in his prime as his upside. Here are some posts about Dobson: Report 2018 NHL Entry Draft in Prospects / In the System Posted June 2, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 9:32 PM, Isam said: Huh. Dobson is probably the fastest chl defenseman in the draft and probably one of the top five skaters overall. Also, what makes you think his offensive game is only gonna 30 points in his prime? Agreed. I think 30 points is his floor... 2018 NHL Entry Draft in Prospects / In the System Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 9:02 PM, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: The defining moment for me is how the draft went down and JB’s post pick reaction. I truly belive in thus clubs scouting. JB got his guy. That was clear and that alone should speak volumes. What do I know as a fan compared to the guys who drafted Boeser, OJ, Pettersson, Gaudette etc.. since Judd Brackett this team has picked the right guy more than not. The reality is that Quinn was fully expected to be taken prior to our selection and many of us did want Dobson or Bouchard. They could still prove to be better picks. But our guy is Hughes. So enjoy his potential. JB had his choice of d man and choose Hughes over the other three. I down with that. To the auto bashing of Bouchard and Dobson, still believe in them as a players. Don’t think anyone needs to smear other picks. Expand Dobson was my guy but I had Hughes right behind. Time will tell who will be the better defenseman but I hope both can succeed to do well in this league. I couldn't find much on Pettersson so I'm gonna let you take the win on that one. I actually didn't post much that draft which is unlike me. Based on my few posts though if Makar had been available I would've picked him. This is what I had to say about the Virtanen draft and picking Ehlers: Im a little warmer to the idea of drafting Virtanen. It's not because he has a great shot, skating or tenacity. The main reason I pick Virtanen over the other prospects is that I see him at worst a really good 3rd line hockey player but most likely an upside of 2nd line winger, MAYBE a 1st line winger...hence a really safe pick. Also what intrigues me the most is that he is one of the youngest of his draft class and will have ample time to hone his skill. I think Virtanen is maybe more of a project than some of the other prospects, and I expect him to take minimum 3 years to make it to the NHL and should not be rushed. I still think his potential upside is less than Ehlers and comparable with Ritchie but is most likely the safest pick of the three. I pick Ehlers if I want the most exciting game-breaker and score 70 + points. He will instantly increase the speed of the team and would likely be the team's leading scorer after the Sedins retire/fade. Would be an instant fan-favourite. On the other hand, I don't see him as a total bust but maybe 20g 20a 40 point scorer playing on second line at worst(?) I'd like itnoted, in no way did I think Podz was going to be there at #10. other than that, I wanted CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, stawns said: I'd like itnoted, in no way did I think Podz was going to be there at #10. other than that, I wanted CC ok noted. and now? you can jump in a time machine if you want to go back to change the pick - but ixnay on glimpsing into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 minute ago, nzan said: ok noted. and now? you can jump in a time machine if you want to go back to change the pick - but ixnay on glimpsing into the future. no way I'd change the pick. I expected Podz to go #3 and CC was the best player at #10 in that scenario, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2014 - RW & C (who was traded) 2015 - LD 2016 - RW 2017 - C 2018 - LD 2019 - RW 2020 - n/a Okay, enough wingers with the 1st. Please draft Clarke or else a C with the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, stawns said: no way I'd change the pick. I expected Podz to go #3 and CC was the best player at #10 in that scenario, imo. Daaaaaang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Alflives said: 9OA + OJ/Bone + Schmidt for Rhino and Risto? we give up and take on double the cap hit too, easy pass for me anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Alflives said: 9OA + OJ/Bone + Schmidt for Rhino and Risto? Seriously Alf Can you tell me why you would move Rathbone, let alone our 9th for 2 guys that kill our cap, and take a 9th that could actually be the best guy in the draft? Have you ever read Rathbone's reports from Harvard, and have you ever compared him with Fox, who just won the Norris? I am not saying he is Fox, but he has the potential to be a very good defenseman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Rick Blight said: So you think the Devils are going to help us out? Geez, Jan you have got to keep up with the news...... I am not sure how you equate what I said to NJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I am not sure how you equate what I said to NJ? Utica is now the Devils farm team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, TGokou said: Yawn. Just because a search doesn't have a name in it doesn't mean I'm not talking about that person. Most of my posts are quoting someone else. Here is the Caufield pick. 2019 NHL Entry Draft in Vancouver, BC in Prospects / In the System Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 11:23 AM, stawns said: I'd take Caufield over any dman not named Byram. Not even close for me. If they get Caufield at #10, we should all be jumping for joy. Same here. Everyone likes to make excuses for why he won't get be a good player. Ie. Skating, size, playoffs etc. His elite talent will shine through regardless of his 'short'comings. I expect his floor to be 25 goals and potentially upwards of 40 goals in his prime as his upside. Here are some posts about Dobson: Report 2018 NHL Entry Draft in Prospects / In the System Posted June 2, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 9:32 PM, Isam said: Huh. Dobson is probably the fastest chl defenseman in the draft and probably one of the top five skaters overall. Also, what makes you think his offensive game is only gonna 30 points in his prime? Agreed. I think 30 points is his floor... 2018 NHL Entry Draft in Prospects / In the System Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 9:02 PM, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said: The defining moment for me is how the draft went down and JB’s post pick reaction. I truly belive in thus clubs scouting. JB got his guy. That was clear and that alone should speak volumes. What do I know as a fan compared to the guys who drafted Boeser, OJ, Pettersson, Gaudette etc.. since Judd Brackett this team has picked the right guy more than not. The reality is that Quinn was fully expected to be taken prior to our selection and many of us did want Dobson or Bouchard. They could still prove to be better picks. But our guy is Hughes. So enjoy his potential. JB had his choice of d man and choose Hughes over the other three. I down with that. To the auto bashing of Bouchard and Dobson, still believe in them as a players. Don’t think anyone needs to smear other picks. Expand Dobson was my guy but I had Hughes right behind. Time will tell who will be the better defenseman but I hope both can succeed to do well in this league. I couldn't find much on Pettersson so I'm gonna let you take the win on that one. I actually didn't post much that draft which is unlike me. Based on my few posts though if Makar had been available I would've picked him. This is what I had to say about the Virtanen draft and picking Ehlers: Im a little warmer to the idea of drafting Virtanen. It's not because he has a great shot, skating or tenacity. The main reason I pick Virtanen over the other prospects is that I see him at worst a really good 3rd line hockey player but most likely an upside of 2nd line winger, MAYBE a 1st line winger...hence a really safe pick. Also what intrigues me the most is that he is one of the youngest of his draft class and will have ample time to hone his skill. I think Virtanen is maybe more of a project than some of the other prospects, and I expect him to take minimum 3 years to make it to the NHL and should not be rushed. I still think his potential upside is less than Ehlers and comparable with Ritchie but is most likely the safest pick of the three. I pick Ehlers if I want the most exciting game-breaker and score 70 + points. He will instantly increase the speed of the team and would likely be the team's leading scorer after the Sedins retire/fade. Would be an instant fan-favourite. On the other hand, I don't see him as a total bust but maybe 20g 20a 40 point scorer playing on second line at worst(?) Fair enough. I take a win. You take a win. Let's call it a draw. I wouldn't have expected anyone to talk about Pettersson so highly, so if that was in fact the case, you'd clearly be in the minority. Good that you projected Caufield though. His drop was kind of expected, given his size, but again, I'm totally happy that he's overcome all those questions with his skill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Rick Blight said: Utica is now the Devils farm team. Really? LOL...I did not know. LOL But if I would have given it better thought......I know Abbotsford is ours......Oops! You were so Polite! Thanks! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Demko has had a long list of lengthy injuries. i wouldn’t feel comfortable with this scenario unless Ian Clark thinks Mikey is ready. I don’t think he is. It’s too soon. If we trade Holtby, then we’ll need to find another backup tender for cheap to back up Demko. Don’t want to be running Demko into the ground like Calgary did with Markström. Look how that turned out for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I don’t think he is. It’s too soon. If we trade Holtby, then we’ll need to find another backup tender for cheap to back up Demko. Don’t want to be running Demko into the ground like Calgary did with Markström. Look how that turned out for them. That's fine we could probably find a cheap option. There's a bunch of Gs on the market. The hard part would be trading Holtby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: That's fine we could probably find a cheap option. There's a bunch of Gs on the market. The hard part would be trading Holtby. Isn’t there that rumour that Boston is interested in Holtby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: Isn’t there that rumour that Boston is interested in Holtby? Yes but likely seattle take holtby and trade him to boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: Its funny how many on CDC who advocate rebuilding also loved acquiring Tofolli. And criticize letting him go. It is pretty obvious that JB has never been a rebuilder. Whether that is his own mandate, or the owners, is debatable? That we have not been sellers often undeniable. FTR I would have been an advocate for selling 2, 4 & even 6 years ago. Right now, at this minute sell? This year I think we just let Podkolzin, with some luck Lind, Rathbone arrive. Ask for growth from Hogz / Petey / Quinn. Find a RHD and tinker with the bottom 6. Next summer we will have all kinds of flexibility to add key pieces to the roster. I dont really want to talk about selling. The time to move Schmidt, for example, if there was one would be next deadline. And it will still be unlikely Benning will have any mandate, or impetus to sell. Who do you like with our 2knd; will Scott Morrow be there? Agree 100%… next year would be a final evaluation of the parts surrounding the core players, so once Eriksson, Roussel and Luongo $ are off the books, management will have maximum frexibility to make the final adjustments/ trades so become a contender again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, spook007 said: Agree 100%… next year would be a final evaluation of the parts surrounding the core players, so once Eriksson, Roussel and Luongo $ are off the books, management will have maximum frexibility to make the final adjustments/ trades so become a contender again. Yep. Prefer them to keep the pick. Wait until next year after all the bad contracts and penalties are gone. Start fresh with full 0 bad contracts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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