KKnight Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, spur1 said: Says who? Just because it was done quicker doesn’t mean shortcuts were taken. Technology is speeding things up considerably. Keep defending them. They love it. Just take the shots and ask no questions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted January 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, KKnight said: Keep defending them. They love it. Just take the shots and ask no questions. The fact you think people taking the shots aren’t asking questions is laughable at best. And judging your performance in this thread they’re also far more capable of understanding the answers. 1 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, KKnight said: Keep defending them. They love it. Just take the shots and ask no questions. Questions were asked, you just don't like the answers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Arrogant Worms Posted January 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, KKnight said: You can't wholeheartedly say Justin Trudeau and every Canadian main stream network he's payed off, the World Health Organization, FDA, Bilderberg group, Rockefeller Foundation, CNN, have your best interest in mind. The corruption is front and center. If you want to believe what they say, by all means. I am personally unvaxxed, but I am not your enemy, it's not me placing these stipulations upon you. It's these beuracrats convincing you that you and I are a walking biohazard. Now when you inevitably get sick, they will blame me, saying I was the cause of your sickness. NO, the mutation of the spike protein was the cause. I mean we can argue all day, but I have no ill wishes for any of you. We literally haven't been able to go to any sporting event and half the league is having covid. Soccer players are suffering heart attacks and going in to cardiac arrest at alarming rates. This isn't questionable to you? At all? Call me stupid or an anti-vaxxer, but all I ask is to pay attention. If you think Alex Jones...Tucker Carlson...and other far right republicans... and all the other conspiracy nuts have your best interest in mind think again. Soccer player are NOT suffering heart attacks and going into cardiac arrest at alarming rates. Fact Check-List of ‘108 FIFA soccer players’ is not proof of a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and athlete deaths https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport-idUSL1N2T81NY Deceptive Videos Used to Link Athlete Deaths to COVID Shots https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-12-17/deceptive-videos-used-to-link-athlete-deaths-to-covid-shots Thanks for playing. 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, KKnight said: Keep defending them. They love it. Just take the shots and ask no questions. And those adults who foolishly refuse these vaccines stay away from our hospitals for Covid. Simple. Then our hospitals wouldn’t be full of antivaxxers who are sick with Covid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, spur1 said: Says who? Just because it was done quicker doesn’t mean shortcuts were taken. Technology is speeding things up considerably. 15 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Along with the amount of global resources and manpower that was put into this. Also the info on covid is flowing freely, nothing is getting stuck at the bottom of some agencies "to do " list. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Decent read on the soccer thingy https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport-idUSL1N2T81NY Some pointed to Christian Eriksen but that dude wasn't vaxxed. A lot of the fear is being spread by some retired footballers. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10339755/Premier-League-field-heart-issues-fuelled-suspicion-Covid-vaccines-players.html There seems to be an increase in soccer heart attacks lately. I can't see how they'd prove that it's related to the vaccination program. I'm not aware of any studies on that topic yet. There is some data to support increased myocarditis risk, particularly among younger males. The risk of death from covid is probably much worse though. The numbers in the chart below don't represent deaths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said: There seems to be an increase in soccer heart attacks lately. I can't see how they'd prove that it's related to the vaccination program. So what do you think? Some sensationalised headlines are saying 100+.....then you read that it is not just the athletes, they are counting. training staff, coaches etc.. I know following MMA, that covid has taken it's pound of flesh. Lots of issues from the virus. No issues I have heard from the vaccination though. I think mma and soccer are probably two of the most fit sports on the planet. If the vaccine had this side effect for top tier healthy folk, i would have thought it would have shown up in MMA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: So what do you think? Some sensationalised headlines are saying 100+.....then you read that it is not just the athletes, they are counting. training staff, coaches etc.. I know following MMA, that covid has taken it's pound of flesh. Lots of issues from the virus. No issues I have heard from the vaccination though. I think mma and soccer are probably two of the most fit sports on the planet. If the vaccine had this side effect for top tier healthy folk, i would have thought it would have shown up in MMA. I think the risk in younger males is real, but not nearly enough to justify not taking the vaccine. Maybe they could implement a better monitoring program for the athletes. I hope we don't start to see this in hockey. For the soccer players I'd be curious to see year over year incidence rates of heart attack and see if it's actually an increase or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: So what do you think? Some sensationalised headlines are saying 100+.....then you read that it is not just the athletes, they are counting. training staff, coaches etc.. I know following MMA, that covid has taken it's pound of flesh. Lots of issues from the virus. No issues I have heard from the vaccination though. I think mma and soccer are probably two of the most fit sports on the planet. If the vaccine had this side effect for top tier healthy folk, i would have thought it would have shown up in MMA. Add hockey to that. Sutter, Stalock, Archibald to name a few 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post I.Am.Ironman Posted January 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Cardiac events are unfortunately somewhat common in the elite aerobic athlete. Eriksen at the Euro Cup is the most recent examply. There was Jay Bouwmeester a couple of years ago. It happens in marathon and cycling as well. There is often an underlying cardiac issue that is undiagnosed. Many of these athletes experience cardiac muscle hypertophy which can increase the likelihood of a cardiac event. This has been an ongoing discussion for years on how cardiac screening processes can be improved. Edited January 9, 2022 by I.Am.Ironman 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Here is a fun question for you all. If someone gets covid, and not this weak ass omicron garbage, but the OG or Delta….. Does that person have to get the vaccine, and should they need to provide a vax passport? It’s been proven that getting Covid provides you with much stronger antibodies than the vaccine. So if that person isn’t worried about getting it again, should they be required too? Should that count and you get a “antibody passport”? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, gizmo2337 said: I think the risk in younger males is real, but not nearly enough to justify not taking the vaccine. Maybe they could implement a better monitoring program for the athletes. I hope we don't start to see this in hockey. For the soccer players I'd be curious to see year over year incidence rates of heart attack and see if it's actually an increase or not. So to be clear. You think that covid is more of a threat to a young healthy lives than the vaccine? Since 'everyone is going to get it' it makes sense to get the jab then? I brought up MMA because they never shut down and have covid numbers that compare to the soccer vaxxed claim, @100 (coaches and athletes) have been affected by covid in a bad way. This is a sport that also does not have as many people competing. You'd think you would have heard something if the vax was soo bad for the heart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Add hockey to that. Sutter, Stalock, Archibald to name a few good point. any heart issues from the vax in hockey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuck73_3 Posted January 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: good point. any heart issues from the vax in hockey? No Covid vaccines chose to only affect soccer players 2 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted January 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, KKnight said: You want links man. Go on duck duck go and do a search multiple links and news sources. Makes statement Refuses to back it up Says "go research it" Will get schooled when proven to be wrong. Will respond with: You're a commie liberal and don't know what you're talking about, or outright ignore it. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4petesake Posted January 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Here is a fun question for you all. If someone gets covid, and not this weak ass omicron garbage, but the OG or Delta….. Does that person have to get the vaccine, and should they need to provide a vax passport? It’s been proven that getting Covid provides you with much stronger antibodies than the vaccine. So if that person isn’t worried about getting it again, should they be required too? Should that count and you get a “antibody passport”? This part is not accurate according to studies. Edited January 9, 2022 by 4petesake 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: Here is a fun question for you all. If someone gets covid, and not this weak ass omicron garbage, but the OG or Delta….. Does that person have to get the vaccine, and should they need to provide a vax passport? It’s been proven that getting Covid provides you with much stronger antibodies than the vaccine. So if that person isn’t worried about getting it again, should they be required too? Should that count and you get a “antibody passport”? Thats not a fun question at all.. I'll try. First, does weak ass omi not give you any anti bodies? Cant they get covid again? Has it been proven that covid provides better antibodies than the vax....for sure? Cause, I've go omi right now....should i bother about a booster? or will that make me super protected? There, I answered your questions with questions. My bad. But if they could establish and antibody passport I suppose that makes sense....then again, i dont love the passport idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: Cardiac events are unfortunately somewhat common in the elite aerobic athlete. Eriksen at the Euro Cup is the most recent examply. There was Jay Bouwmeester a couple of years ago. It happens in marathon and cycling as well. There is often an underlying cardiac issue that is undiagnosed. Many of these athletes experience cardiac muscle hypertophy which can increase the likelihood of a cardiac event. This has been an ongoing discussion for years on how cardiac screening processes can be improved. Heard about this guy called David Goggins. Read his autobiography You Can't Hurt Me. He went through the Navy seal training program a few times before he passed and them became a ultra marathon runner. He did all of this before he discovered he had a hole in his heart. I would recommend his book to anyone who wants to be inspired. He doesn't talk about his service apart from his training. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, 4petesake said: This part is not accurate according to studies. It’s the same antivaxxer crap over and over. Do antivaxxers not know how to learn or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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