Coyotes lose vote for new arena - future unclear

[NewbieCanuckFan]

49 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Now you're more buff and wear contacts right?

Back in the 70s, my buddy Alf told me about this great program he discovered in the back of his favourite Archie comic book!:

 

 

He was more interested in the "X-ray glasses" to see errr....well you can imagine.

 

[MikeBossy]

And Arizona will still struggle to fill the smaller arena - what a joke. They should name it the American Standard arena - every time the Yotes score play a flushing toilet sound (which would be suitable as it is basically what the rest of the league is doing - flushing money down the toilet for this joke of a franchise)

[johngould21]

27 minutes ago, MikeBossy said:

And Arizona will still struggle to fill the smaller arena - what a joke. They should name it the American Standard arena - every time the Yotes score play a flushing toilet sound (which would be suitable as it is basically what the rest of the league is doing - flushing money down the toilet for this joke of a franchise)

I hear Doug McCallum is going to build a 60,000 seat stadium for all sports. Just saying.

[Kragar]

On 8/24/2022 at 3:38 PM, NewbieCanuckFan said:

That's where the final boxing match in Rocky IV was actually filmed!  I still remember the general public casting call for all people "dressed like Eastern Europeans" to fill that arena back in the day for that movie!  Unfortunately I looked more like this back then:

 

 

I was there for that filming.  I actually won a cheapo Walkman knockoff to go along with the free KFC lunch.

 

Fun day.

[Hairy Kneel]

[4petesake]

3 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

It’s time, walk toward the light.

 

 

[mll]

They expect to sell out every home game and season ticket revenue is apparently up 50%.  

 

The Arizona Coyotes expect to sell out every home game this season at Arizona State University's Mullett Arena and say their season-ticket revenue has surpassed what they were generating in their former home in Glendale.

 

The Coyotes will play in the new multipurpose facility on ASU's campus for at least the next three seasons while seeking to build an arena on city-owned land in Tempe. The Tempe City Council voted in favor of a bid in June to move forward on negotiations for the new arena and entertainment district. The Tempe project has been estimated at $1.7 billion and the team expects there to be a vote on the deal this fall.

"We're still very confident that we have the right deal, the right project and the right ownership group to get it done," Coyotes president and CEO Xavier A. Gutierrez told ESPN on Wednesday. "It's the first privately financed sports and entertainment district in the history of Arizona. This is the bridge to that."

Mullett Arena, named for a family that has supported the ASU Sun Devils' Division I hockey program, will have an official capacity of 5,025 fans. The capacity for Coyotes games has yet to be determined, but it's expected to be between 4,800 and 5,000 fans.

 

"We know this is going to be sold out for every single game and we never had any doubt that was going to be the case," Gutierrez said. "We could have sold this out to our existing season-ticket base, but we didn't think that was the right approach. We want to make sure that fans who have never experienced a game could experience it. That's a very tricky thing when you've downsized capacity."

 

To compensate for the smaller capacity -- the building in Glendale, formerly Gila River Arena and now Desert Diamond Arena, held 17,125 for hockey -- the Coyotes priced every seat outside of the ASU student section as a lower bowl seat. The average ticket price at their former arena was in the $90 range. The average ticket price at Mullett Arena is $170. The NHL average is $154.

Because of that pricing, Gutierrez said the Coyotes have generated 50% more revenue from all their season-ticket plans than "we ever did in the history" of the Glendale arena.

"We're not gouging people here," he said. "You're slightly above an NHL average now while you were well below an NHL average before. And we're in a much more centrally located area."

 

There have also been changes in how the team sells suites. The Coyotes had around 80 suites in their former arena and sold around 60 of them. At Mullett Arena, they have 20 suites, which have all sold out. In some cases, they were sold on half-season plans so create greater inventory.

The ASU student section will be around 400 seats. There will also be a standing room section of around 300 seats from which the Coyotes may carve out additional student seating. Ticket prices for the student section will be around $25-$50 per game.

"We're on ASU's campus. This is great for the gameday experience and great for the cultivation of fans. You can't be on campus and not have that youthful infusion," Gutierrez told ESPN.

 

The Coyotes play their first home game on the ASU campus on Oct. 28 against the Winnipeg Jets. The game will be shown exclusively on ESPN+ and Hulu.

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by mll

[JM_]

19 minutes ago, mll said:

They expect to sell out every home game and season ticket revenue is apparently up 50%.  

 

The Arizona Coyotes expect to sell out every home game this season at Arizona State University's Mullett Arena and say their season-ticket revenue has surpassed what they were generating in their former home in Glendale.

 

The Coyotes will play in the new multipurpose facility on ASU's campus for at least the next three seasons while seeking to build an arena on city-owned land in Tempe. The Tempe City Council voted in favor of a bid in June to move forward on negotiations for the new arena and entertainment district. The Tempe project has been estimated at $1.7 billion and the team expects there to be a vote on the deal this fall.

"We're still very confident that we have the right deal, the right project and the right ownership group to get it done," Coyotes president and CEO Xavier A. Gutierrez told ESPN on Wednesday. "It's the first privately financed sports and entertainment district in the history of Arizona. This is the bridge to that."

Mullett Arena, named for a family that has supported the ASU Sun Devils' Division I hockey program, will have an official capacity of 5,025 fans. The capacity for Coyotes games has yet to be determined, but it's expected to be between 4,800 and 5,000 fans.

 

"We know this is going to be sold out for every single game and we never had any doubt that was going to be the case," Gutierrez said. "We could have sold this out to our existing season-ticket base, but we didn't think that was the right approach. We want to make sure that fans who have never experienced a game could experience it. That's a very tricky thing when you've downsized capacity."

 

To compensate for the smaller capacity -- the building in Glendale, formerly Gila River Arena and now Desert Diamond Arena, held 17,125 for hockey -- the Coyotes priced every seat outside of the ASU student section as a lower bowl seat. The average ticket price at their former arena was in the $90 range. The average ticket price at Mullett Arena is $170. The NHL average is $154.

Because of that pricing, Gutierrez said the Coyotes have generated 50% more revenue from all their season-ticket plans than "we ever did in the history" of the Glendale arena.

"We're not gouging people here," he said. "You're slightly above an NHL average now while you were well below an NHL average before. And we're in a much more centrally located area."

 

There have also been changes in how the team sells suites. The Coyotes had around 80 suites in their former arena and sold around 60 of them. At Mullett Arena, they have 20 suites, which have all sold out. In some cases, they were sold on half-season plans so create greater inventory.

The ASU student section will be around 400 seats. There will also be a standing room section of around 300 seats from which the Coyotes may carve out additional student seating. Ticket prices for the student section will be around $25-$50 per game.

"We're on ASU's campus. This is great for the gameday experience and great for the cultivation of fans. You can't be on campus and not have that youthful infusion," Gutierrez told ESPN.

 

The Coyotes play their first home game on the ASU campus on Oct. 28 against the Winnipeg Jets. The game will be shown exclusively on ESPN+ and Hulu.

 

 

So all AZ had to do to be successful is scale down to a college rink. Gary must be proud. 

 

 

[Ghostsof1915]

16 minutes ago, mll said:

They expect to sell out every home game and season ticket revenue is apparently up 50%.  

 

The Arizona Coyotes expect to sell out every home game this season at Arizona State University's Mullett Arena and say their season-ticket revenue has surpassed what they were generating in their former home in Glendale.

 

The Coyotes will play in the new multipurpose facility on ASU's campus for at least the next three seasons while seeking to build an arena on city-owned land in Tempe. The Tempe City Council voted in favor of a bid in June to move forward on negotiations for the new arena and entertainment district. The Tempe project has been estimated at $1.7 billion and the team expects there to be a vote on the deal this fall.

"We're still very confident that we have the right deal, the right project and the right ownership group to get it done," Coyotes president and CEO Xavier A. Gutierrez told ESPN on Wednesday. "It's the first privately financed sports and entertainment district in the history of Arizona. This is the bridge to that."

Mullett Arena, named for a family that has supported the ASU Sun Devils' Division I hockey program, will have an official capacity of 5,025 fans. The capacity for Coyotes games has yet to be determined, but it's expected to be between 4,800 and 5,000 fans.

 

"We know this is going to be sold out for every single game and we never had any doubt that was going to be the case," Gutierrez said. "We could have sold this out to our existing season-ticket base, but we didn't think that was the right approach. We want to make sure that fans who have never experienced a game could experience it. That's a very tricky thing when you've downsized capacity."

 

To compensate for the smaller capacity -- the building in Glendale, formerly Gila River Arena and now Desert Diamond Arena, held 17,125 for hockey -- the Coyotes priced every seat outside of the ASU student section as a lower bowl seat. The average ticket price at their former arena was in the $90 range. The average ticket price at Mullett Arena is $170. The NHL average is $154.

Because of that pricing, Gutierrez said the Coyotes have generated 50% more revenue from all their season-ticket plans than "we ever did in the history" of the Glendale arena.

"We're not gouging people here," he said. "You're slightly above an NHL average now while you were well below an NHL average before. And we're in a much more centrally located area."

 

There have also been changes in how the team sells suites. The Coyotes had around 80 suites in their former arena and sold around 60 of them. At Mullett Arena, they have 20 suites, which have all sold out. In some cases, they were sold on half-season plans so create greater inventory.

The ASU student section will be around 400 seats. There will also be a standing room section of around 300 seats from which the Coyotes may carve out additional student seating. Ticket prices for the student section will be around $25-$50 per game.

"We're on ASU's campus. This is great for the gameday experience and great for the cultivation of fans. You can't be on campus and not have that youthful infusion," Gutierrez told ESPN.

 

The Coyotes play their first home game on the ASU campus on Oct. 28 against the Winnipeg Jets. The game will be shown exclusively on ESPN+ and Hulu.

 

Desert Diamond Arena (The former home in Glendale) has 17,125 capacity for hockey.

So they are basically admitting the best they can do is get less than 1/3 of the capacity for a new rink.

That doesn't say much for a new building in Tempe. In fact the DDA had 3 times the suites sold there.

Let's see how long they remain "sold out".

She's just not into you Gary, admit it.

[Ghostsof1915]

Can someone confirm that Gila River is putting ads on the Coyote's jerseys?

THAT is hilarious.

[IBatch]

On 9/7/2022 at 6:59 PM, Ghostsof1915 said:

Desert Diamond Arena (The former home in Glendale) has 17,125 capacity for hockey.

So they are basically admitting the best they can do is get less than 1/3 of the capacity for a new rink.

That doesn't say much for a new building in Tempe. In fact the DDA had 3 times the suites sold there.

Let's see how long they remain "sold out".

She's just not into you Gary, admit it.

Also said, their season ticket revenue already surpassing what it was ... and only 4800-5200ish seats available...is hilariously tragic.    Yet there is what today would cost around 1billion dollar arena sitting collecting dust in Quebec City.   It's mind blowing that franchise hasn't been moved out of ARI.    They admitted they were wrong in Atlanta.    Don't know why they haven't yet in ARI. And for over a decade AFTER  CAR won a cup,  the attendance was also dismal.   Heck even in Miami ... all the snow birds can't fill that building and they are a contender now.    Quebec City might be a small market.   But bet they'd sell out every time.   Bring back the Nords! 

[Ghostsof1915]

Just now, IBatch said:

Also said, their season ticket revenue already surpassing what it was ... and only 4800-5200ish seats available...is hilariously tragic.    Yet there is what today would cost around 1billion dollar arena sitting collecting dust in Quebec City.   It's mind blowing that franchise hasn't been moved out of ARI.    They admitted they were wrong in Atlanta.    Don't know why they haven't yet in ARI. And for over a decade AFTER  CAR won a cup,  the attendance was also dismal.   Heck even in Miami ... all the snow birds can't fill that building and they are a contender now.    Quebec City might be a small market.   But bet they'd sell out every time.   Bring back the Nords! 

Then someone in the Eastern Conference has to move west then. We know Detroit will say hell no to that idea. Unless they move Columbus into the Western Conference.

I'd say Houston or Portland would be the likely destination. But Uncle Gary seems determined to make a square peg fit a round hole in Arizona.

[IBatch]

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Then someone in the Eastern Conference has to move west then. We know Detroit will say hell no to that idea. Unless they move Columbus into the Western Conference.

I'd say Houston or Portland would be the likely destination. But Uncle Gary seems determined to make a square peg fit a round hole in Arizona.

Yes one team would have to move over ... but that's ok.   Forever TO was part of the West and Detroit.   Kind of miss those days.   COL/DET ... in the same division would be something.  Best rivalry in sports during the 90's, and one of the best ever. 

[Goal:thecup]

Well, I guess every seat is a pretty good seat at least.

What a goat rodeo.

[Ghostsof1915]

10 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:

Well, I guess every seat is a pretty good seat at least.

What a goat rodeo.

Goat rodeos would sell more seats.

 

 

[MikeBossy]

So 5025 seats x $170 a ticket times 41 home games = $35,024,250 for the season. Their projected cap hit will be $62,136,709. Remind me again why this makes sense to anyone other than Bettman and the Coyotes owners?

[UKNuck96]

Pretty sure the Nottingham panthers had more in attendance than coyotes will have next season 

 

 

it’s smaller than Nottingham (above)

 

Sheffield

 

below 

 

 

about the same size (tiny bit smaller) than the now defunct Newcastle vipers 

 

 

smaller than belfast

 

smaller than breahead 

 

 

 

it’s crazy that such a small league in the UK has half or more arenas bigger than the coyotes and then level here is probably a bit in between echl and ahl 

 

 

if you going to let them play in that small an arena for the NHL, why not just go the whole hog and move a team to the UK and drop it somewhere in the midlands or Manchester and you could easily have a team with 10k plus fans every game 

Edited September 11, 2022 by UKNuck96

[Goal:thecup]

 

How the heck are you supposed to see the puck on that ice?

It was painted white for a reason (and that reason was not greed in the form of advertising).

It is gross on the uniforms imo, but on the ice... where's the puck?

 

Play by play: "He passed from the RHPS Circle to the panthers.co.uk line, I think John, what do you think?"

"I don't Marchanding know, where was the puck?"

Start an online protest against anybody painting crap on the ice.

 

[UKNuck96]

1 minute ago, Goal:thecup said:

 

How the heck are you supposed to see the puck on that ice?

It was painted white for a reason (and that reason was not greed in the form of advertising).

It is gross on the uniforms imo, but on the ice... where's the puck?

 

Play by play: "He passed from the RHPS Circle to the panthers.co.uk line, I think John, what do you think?"

"I don't Marchanding know, where was the puck?"

Start an online protest against anybody painting crap on the ice.

 

It’s really easy to see the puck, once the light go up it’s very very bright, and the puck is really easy to see.

 

plus the UK does not have same level of money sloshing around the league so to exist they need as much funding as they can get. 
 

tbh sponsorship doesn’t bother me as much as teams being corporate enterprise that can just be plucked and moved at whim 

[Goal:thecup]

9 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said:

It’s really easy to see the puck, once the light go up it’s very very bright, and the puck is really easy to see.

 

plus the UK does not have same level of money sloshing around the league so to exist they need as much funding as they can get. 
 

tbh sponsorship doesn’t bother me as much as teams being corporate enterprise that can just be plucked and moved at whim 

Well, maybe you get used to it; or maybe they could be held back to pastels or something, that navy is almost black.

And I am tired of being bombarded with advertising; surely there are more honourable methods of making ends meet.

I'm really just glad that hockey fans there are getting good entertainment; nothing better than hockey!

Cheers!