RUPERTKBD Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Provost said: I am sure they want as large a TV market as possible, but don’t lose sight of the fact all markets aren’t created the same in terms of the popularity of hockey. Minneapolis is going to get bigger ratings than Atlanta or Phoenix. It is such a minor sport, that the total population isn’t anywhere near as important as the likely draw. Vegas wasn’t a big market, but with no other major league sports, and a visitor pool of fans it works. Yeah, I mentioned earlier that this was why I think KC is a better bet than Houston. The problem with SLC and Portland is that they both have basketball teams that would essentially compete head to head with hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 13 hours ago, CBH1926 said: Hawaii has 11 registered hockey players, they could use an NHL team. Maui Whalers could be their name. I'd go with the O'ahu Cares..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Provost said: It may, but we aren't likely to hear about it. A private meeting between the owner and Bettman, not even the BOG. The league can simply threaten to suspend or terminate the Coyotes membership if they have a defensible cause. There is no doubt they have cause right now, as the ownership got kicked out of an arena for failing to pay bills, is playing in a non-NHL arena, and has no viable plans to have one in the next several years. Add in that there is no guarantee the NHLPA even plays ball with agreeing to play in Mullett arena for what will be an indefinite period. They have working condition rules that are almost certainly not being fulfilled now. It is one thing to let it happen as a stopgap with an actual viable plan for the future, it is another thing to play out a year or two in front of a couple thousand people when everyone knows the team is going to relocate at some point. The league also gets to decide what a relocation fee would be, Meruelo is rich... but does he have enough liquid assets to cover hundreds of millions in a relocation fee, and the desire to do so? Especially if it is to just be a tenant in someone else's building. The only reason they play in Arizona next year is that they think they bad optics of playing in an empty college arena are preferable to the risk of the next stop being a failure because they rushed it. To me the most elegant way out, is to temporarily move the team to play its home games next season in an existing NHL calibre arena while options are being determined.. That gives a new market a chance to see NHL games and also make a pitch for buying and keeping the team. That would put Salt Lake City and Quebec City at the top of the list as they can host NHL games immediately. It won't be ideal as maybe fans won't fully get behind a team that may not be there permanently, but it certainly won't be worse than what it will look like at the Mullet arena. At least it will be a novelty in a new market and they will have the ability to paper the house with cheap tickets and have a full looking arena. It will also put an end point in the Arizona debacle which has become toxic and laughable. If Quebec wants to show they can support a team... selling out their arena for a "temporary" team and having corporate support buying boxes would go a long way in proving the business model. That also saves those US markets for bigger expansion dollars down the road when the league is more ready for that. What about something similar to what MLB was considering with Tampa and Montreal and have two potential destinations share the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: We could give them Duncan..... How about Coombs? They can Build a stadium and have goats on the roof. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 59 minutes ago, King Heffy said: What about something similar to what MLB was considering with Tampa and Montreal and have two potential destinations share the team? Tough sell to the NHLPA. Having to pick where your family lives and effectively another 20 road games a year is complicated. As a temporary measure, and maybe dropping 20 games from Mullet and playing them at a neutral site… that isn’t a bad idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) Could the Coyotes be relocated to Surrey? Are they the fastest growing city in Canada? What would it mean to have another NHL team in BC? https://www.westernstandard.news/bc/could-the-nhl-s-arizona-coyotes-be-headed-to-surrey-after-tempe-voters-reject-2/article_c5781808-f4ef-11ed-b76f-2ba944df6ccc.html#:~:text=According to Breaking News British,the veracity of the claim. Edited May 18, 2023 by Pure961089 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Provost said: Tough sell to the NHLPA. Having to pick where your family lives and effectively another 20 road games a year is complicated. As a temporary measure, and maybe dropping 20 games from Mullet and playing them at a neutral site… that isn’t a bad idea. Why stop there. Make the Coyotes the first year round road team with home games at different neutral sites around the world for next season. Edited May 18, 2023 by 24K PureCool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: Why stop there. Make the Coyotes the first year round road team with home games at different neutral sites around the world for next season. Symbolic of a team that's without a home lol. Arizona Wanderers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: Why stop there. Make the Coyotes the first year round road team with home games at different neutral sites around the world for next season. They could play 2 games in Vancouver, call 1 a home game, then go to the next city and do the same. save a bit on travel expenses. Of course for the Coyotes "home game, I expect them to pay rent on the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: How about Coombs? They can Build a stadium and have goats on the roof. Whiskey Creek is a nice place..... Edited May 18, 2023 by VegasCanuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Move them to Quebec City and charge 500 million relocation fee. Expand to Houston and either Salt Lake City or Portland to create a more balanced western conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, Gurn said: They could play 2 games in Surrey, call 1 a home game, then go to the next city and do the same. save a bit on travel expenses. Of course for the Coyotes "home game, I expect them to pay rent on the building. FIFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Move them to Quebec City and charge 500 million relocation fee. Expand to Houston and either Salt Lake City or Portland to create a more balanced western conference. I like how your cities balance the east and west. If the only way QC can get a club is by relocating the Coyotes to there, then the league can get a big number like you suggest. QC needs to buy the club too. So the total cost would be over 1 Billion with the relocation fee added to the purchase. Which other buyer will pay like that? They might see themselves as doing the league a favour so the relocation fee would be minimal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 24K PureCool said: Why stop there. Make the Coyotes the first year round road team with home games at different neutral sites around the world for next season. That actually happened to the Cleveland Spiders of the NL, a few years before the first World Series. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 2 hours ago, 24K PureCool said: Why stop there. Make the Coyotes the first year round road team with home games at different neutral sites around the world for next season. Hey… the roster they will have should be happy just to be in the NHL so maybe won’t make too much fuss! :D It isn’t unheard of for a team to play in a different stadium for a year… the Saints spent all 2005 playing “home” games elsewhere. I doubt it would happen since they have a place they agreed to play… but it would sure be a way to avoid a lame duck year in Arizona and daily bad press that would bring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) For those of whom think there's no suitable arena in Kansas City. T-Mobile Center is only 16 years old. Seats 17,544. Now Houston has a far bigger TV market than Kansas City. But it's an option. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_Center Edited May 19, 2023 by Ghostsof1915 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Bob Mccown on his podcast says that there should be a second NHL team in Toronto or GTA. He's dead serious. John Shannon agrees. But the league won't do it. They say Bettman would have the votes and they could force the Leafs to accept it Around 20 min in https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5saWJzeW4uY29tLzQzNDI4MC9yc3M/episode/OWI5Yjk5YjMtZDlmYi00MGJmLWJjMGItZGE3YzkxNDM4OTNm?ep=14 Edited May 19, 2023 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Frank Serivelli on the coyotes playing at Mullet for another year and trying to find another deal. "it's like me at the highschool dance. How many times do you need to hear no?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Frank Serivelli on the coyotes playing at Mullet for another year and trying to find another deal. "it's like me at the highschool dance. How many times do you need to hear no?" I think it's around the 12th 'no' you finally get a pity dance... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Guy Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Serves them right for disallowing the goal, now they all have to work OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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