VegasCanuck Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Yeah it would have to be 50% retained AND likely taking an equally "bad" $3m'ish contract back to make any return worthwhile. So, if Chicago was willing to retain 50% and take back Dickinson and a 2024 2nd round pick and a conditional 2025 4th round pick (based on him performing / resigning), I would be interested in seeing if he would be an upgrade to our 3rd line center position. Yes, I realize that we would need to make other moves to make the cap work, but we have the rest of summer to do that and we need to do that still to address RD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Angry Goose Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Coconuts said: Cap space is better spent on players who are actually productive GMs will look at the player and their context. Toews in a reduced or specialized role on a better team might still be enticing for some GMs if the acquisition cost is low in comparison to JTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VegasCanuck Posted July 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: WOW, Queue the Miller Trade tal............ Oh, wait....I think someone already did! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: He'll be moved. Just a matter of time. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Dunno about that, Toews at 50% is still 5.25M and I wouldn't want us paying him that. Kane would be an easy sell at 50%, unless Toews bounces back which is a tall ask at 34, I doubt he will be. Not in the current cap environment. teams that want to make a run will have injuries, and they'll value the experience toews brings. further, listening to his comments over the last couple years makes it easy to imagine that playing for a team that's actually trying to win would revitalize him. Edited July 27, 2022 by tas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Why say this publicly? Doesn't this diminish his trade value? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Why say this publicly? Doesn't this diminish his trade value? teams' desire to win will always outweigh perceived leverage in a bargaining position. the reason to say it publicly, presumably, is to let the fans know where things are at and to let them down easy. or perhaps they're making progress on a trade, and again, this is a pre-emptive statement to soften the blow. Edited July 27, 2022 by tas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I know this is a JT Miller thread but.. I am wondering if Calgary makes sense as a potential destination for Toews. A trade involving Toews and Monahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Why say this publicly? Doesn't this diminish his trade value? Season ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Oh boy! This is going to get good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, DeltaSwede said: I know this is a JT Miller thread but.. I am wondering if Calgary makes sense as a potential destination for Toews. A trade involving Toews and Monahan. Just when I thought I couldn’t hate the Flames anymore. If they did that… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Oh boy, this is 20 pages on it's own! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: What possible reason is there to say this publicly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, DeltaSwede said: I know this is a JT Miller thread but.. I am wondering if Calgary makes sense as a potential destination for Toews. A trade involving Toews and Monahan. I think you'd have to move Captain Clown somewhere that he wouldn't be in a leadership position after it became public knowledge how much of a scumbag he was with the Beach report. After unloading the turtle and the midget, I doubt Calgary is in a hurry to bring in another guy with character issues. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: GMs will look at the player and their context. Toews in a reduced or specialized role on a better team might still be enticing for some GMs if the acquisition cost is low in comparison to JTM Perhaps, we shall see. I just question which playoff squad is going to have space for a 5.25M aging center who's production has declined. He ain't fixing Nashville's problems for one. Colorado can do better.. 9 minutes ago, tas said: teams that want to make a run will have injuries, and they'll value the experience toews brings. further, listening to his comments over the last couple years makes it easy to imagine that playing for a team that's actually trying to win would revitalize him. Experience is one thing, experience without regular season production is another. If he can bounce back he'll be moveable, if he continues to play at the level he was at last season the Hawks will have a tougher time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, tas said: teams' desire to win will always outweigh perceived leverage in a bargaining position. the reason to say it publicly, presumably, is to let the fans know where things are at and to let them down easy. or perhaps they're making progress on a trade, and again, this is a pre-emptive statement to soften the blow. But wouldn't saying these things lower the value and thus create the need to soften the blow in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: @Goal:thecup That sound close to you? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: What possible reason is there to say this publicly? Letting the Miller’s camp know that if there is a fair offer for the player JR will move him without warning. No final chance to make a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharpshooter Posted July 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: What possible reason is there to say this publicly? Day drinking. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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