Darius Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 There was an article in the province about Miller and Minnesota too. When a team is in the basement the vultures will circle - especially if other GMs perceive a weakness in management. Id like to see a new coach before any significant players are moved, hell Id like to see a new GM before any significant pieces are moved. That said, if anyone is moved I hope its to shore up the very below average D core. Also, be careful about moving a guy that has proven he can score up till about 3 bloody weeks ago, and the guy that lead the team in scoring last yeaqr. I suspect Boeser is a 30 goal scorer on a good team. I see posters thinking Hogs, Podz and Klimovich make Boeser redundant. No they dont, none of those guys have ever scored at his pace (probably at any level) and none of those guys really project to be a first line winger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, N4ZZY said: question then becomes why would he sign for anything less if he knows his QO will be more than what management would hope he would sign for? Benning's and his crew is obviously going to try to sign him for less than his QO. Why would Brock do that? The only reasons Boeser would consider it is if he wants a longer term deal now or if he really wants to stay with the Canucks long term. I doubt he signs here though given the turmoil. Better move for him is to take his QO until becoming a UFA and going where he wants to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: Brock Boeser's value is a 1st a prospect and a roster player Knowing JB so well now... We'll probably get a 2nd, a prospect, and a guy like Lammikko that he'll sell to the media and fans as the next Todd Bertuzzi!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Darius said: There was an article in the province about Miller and Minnesota too. When a team is in the basement the vultures will circle - especially if other GMs perceive a weakness in management. Id like to see a new coach before any significant players are moved, hell Id like to see a new GM before any significant pieces are moved. That said, if anyone is moved I hope its to shore up the very below average D core. Also, be careful about moving a guy that has proven he can score up till about 3 bloody weeks ago, and the guy that lead the team in scoring last yeaqr. I suspect Boeser is a 30 goal scorer on a good team. I see posters thinking Hogs, Podz and Klimovich make Boeser redundant. No they dont, none of those guys have ever scored at his pace (probably at any level) and none of those guys really project to be a first line winger. Benning set himself up to lose Boeser when he signed him last time. His QO is going to be too high for Benning to fit in due to his $&!#ty cap management. Every GM knows it so he will get pennies on the dollar for Boeser. Look around for the most Sutter-like player around the league with a bloated contract who another team is desperate to get rid of. Benning will trade Boeser and a 2nd for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: Benning set himself up to lose Boeser when he signed him last time. His QO is going to be too high for Benning to fit in due to his $&!#ty cap management. Every GM knows it so he will get pennies on the dollar for Boeser. Look around for the most Sutter-like player around the league with a bloated contract who another team is desperate to get rid of. Benning will trade Boeser and a 2nd for him. i agree that Benning has caused a lot of problems for himself. Regarding the QO offer. Am I mistaken in thinking they can take the player to arbitration? Imho if anyone gets moved its Miller. I doubt that guy stays here when he goes UFA, especially if the team is mediocre-sub mediocre. Sell high on him now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Darius said: i agree that Benning has caused a lot of problems for himself. Regarding the QO offer. Am I mistaken in thinking they can take the player to arbitration? Imho if anyone gets moved its Miller. I doubt that guy stays here when he goes UFA, especially if the team is mediocre-sub mediocre. Sell high on him now. Now try to think of 1 player Benning has sold high on. I am not sure off the top of my head if Boeser can be taken to arbitration. If he can and the team does, he will be gone for sure the next year though. Edited November 23, 2021 by wallstreetamigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Brock has been skating in the mud all season and has been completely invisible hes a good trade chip but id want to see an equal return not picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Now try to think of 1 player Benning has sold high on. I am not sure off the top of my head if Boeser can be taken to arbitration. If he can and the team does, he will be gone for sure the next year though. Jared Mccann! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Now try to think of 1 player Benning has sold high on. I am not sure off the top of my head if Boeser can be taken to arbitration. If he can and the team does, he will be gone for sure the next year though. I think we can write a thesis on Benning and all the moves that have resulted in where the team sits today - its not a good situation. Regarding the QO, i think i need to know two things before forming a stronger opinion on Boeser 1. Can the team take an under performing player to to Arbitration to argue against the QO (I think they can but not 100 percent sure) 2. Does the player take the QO with him to a new team. Say they trade Boeser to another team, is the other team on the hook? If this is the case it will make it a lot harder to move an underperforming player. In any case, IMHO the best move is to move Miller (if coaching change doesnt work first lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 If the canucks owners are willing to gut the core they should do it with a different management group. Please don't trade Brock for fk sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 BB is a tough one. He's never going to be a driver. His usual center is sucking, the PP is brutal. He has been a little snake bitten as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) If we can get a decent deal... go for it. Trade Boeser and Miller by the deadline this year. I am 50/50 on Horvat, but I would tend to get some assets for him before he walks too, otherwise we are really banking on suddenly turning it around next season so convincingly that he would be agreeable to re-signing as a pending UFA rather than go somewhere he can actually have a chance to win. I don't trust Benning to make any of these moves though so the first step should be to hire a new GM, then give him a month to assess things and put these guys on the block around Christmas/January. Edited November 23, 2021 by Provost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Jersey has some nice young pieces that would make trading him less painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, CanuckleHorse said: Jersey has some nice young pieces that would make trading him less painful. Why give this coach more young, unproven players. Do you really want to see MORE of Pearson, Chiasson, etc than we already see with this clown coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Please hire a competent coach before trading Boeser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Boeser to NYR for Kappo Kakko+ Nils Lundkvist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I've been a big supporter of GMJB, but if he trades a guy like Boeser away (a potential 40 goal forward) and puts his eggs in the coach Green basket, I'd call for GMJB's head too. This would be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: He's struggling for sure this season but the moment we trade him to a vaguely good team with a good coach you know he'll drop 40 goals consistently. Grabner exploded after we traded him and Boeser will do much better. If we start trading our young star players who we've taken the time to groom before we can the coach, this team's spiraling will get even worse, we may not even be at rock bottom yet. There’s about a handful of guys in the league who can do that. Boeser ain’t one of em. Not even close. Let’s see him crack actually score 30 before we talk about even one 40 goal season, let alone multiple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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