Phat Fingers Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Coconuts said: Dunno why Parayko's even being discussed, they just signed him to an 8x6.5M deal in September. 6'6", 230 pounds, RD, first pairing D for them. Why would they trade that? Clearly they wanted him to stay. He's a lynchpin on their defense, move out a D like that and you've got to replace him. And good luck doing that. Solely, cause if I was to build a defensive partner for Quinn Hughes, it would be a Paryako clone. I think he was an incredible pick by St Louis and it was not serious. But it did create a buzz… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Phat Fingers said: Solely, cause if I was to build a defensive partner for Quinn Hughes, it would be a Paryako clone. I think he was an incredible pick by St Louis and it was not serious. But it did create a buzz… I get it, he's the prototypical big, talented D to compliment him And yeah, they did well to pick and develop him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We need to keep Bo. He’s an excellent 2nd line centre. Heard on the radio today that, I think Sat, was saying that Bo could be signed for less than we all think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deets Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 17 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: Solely, cause if I was to build a defensive partner for Quinn Hughes, it would be a Paryako clone. I think he was an incredible pick by St Louis and it was not serious. But it did create a buzz… I was wishing for the Ekblad rumours a couple years ago would be true, because I think he would be the perfect pairing with Hughes. No way to get him now that he's absolutely dominating, but a few years ago there were talks that he was potentially available for the right offer. Sad that Benning ignored our back-end for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 11:05 PM, N4ZZY said: We need to keep Bo. He’s an excellent 2nd line centre. Heard on the radio today that, I think Sat, was saying that Bo could be signed for less than we all think. Perfect trade for us… Hearing the Rumour is for Lafreniere, a 1st this draft and a second rnd pick next season. ARE THE VANCOUVER CANUCKS INTERESTED IN A ALEXIS LAFRENIERE TRADE? By Rob Ellis - January 27, 2022 Alexis Lafreniere has not lived up to expectations for a number one overall pick, but he is young and still has lots of time to improve. With the New York Rangers facing salary cap issues in the next few years they may look to trade Lafreniere. Larry Brooks of the New York Post wonders if Vancouver will make a serious offseason run trading for Lafreniere now that they have hired his (former) agent, Emilie Castonguay, as assistant GM? Brooks went on to say, Lafreniere is going to have to move to the right wing in order to get top six minutes in New York. If there is doubt that he can handle the move, the Rangers are going to have to consider their options. Bo Horvat would have to come back in a Lafreniere deal to fill that spot in the middle behind Mika Zibanejad. It will be interesting to see if the Rangers decide to make a Lafreniere trade in the offseason as they do face a serious salary cap issue in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Frozen Water Walker said: My buddy came in the store (he's in the news media) he says the offer on Miller is NYR Lafreniere &1st this year and 2nd next year. Rumor mill says it's Lafreniere for Bo https://www.nhltraderumor.com/are-the-vancouver-canucks-interested-in-a-alexis-lafreniere-trade/ GCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Perfect trade for us… Hearing the Rumour is for Lafreniere, a 1st this draft and a second rnd pick next season. ARE THE VANCOUVER CANUCKS INTERESTED IN A ALEXIS LAFRENIERE TRADE? By Rob Ellis - January 27, 2022 Alexis Lafreniere has not lived up to expectations for a number one overall pick, but he is young and still has lots of time to improve. With the New York Rangers facing salary cap issues in the next few years they may look to trade Lafreniere. Larry Brooks of the New York Post wonders if Vancouver will make a serious offseason run trading for Lafreniere now that they have hired his (former) agent, Emilie Castonguay, as assistant GM? Brooks went on to say, Lafreniere is going to have to move to the right wing in order to get top six minutes in New York. If there is doubt that he can handle the move, the Rangers are going to have to consider their options. Bo Horvat would have to come back in a Lafreniere deal to fill that spot in the middle behind Mika Zibanejad. It will be interesting to see if the Rangers decide to make a Lafreniere trade in the offseason as they do face a serious salary cap issue in the next few years. I do that deal for Miller. Not for Horvat. We would be sunk without Horvats ability to eat tough minutes. Miller and Pettersson would not be able to handle those minutes in the playoffs. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I do that deal for Miller. Not for Horvat. We would be sunk without Horvats ability to eat tough minutes. Miller and Pettersson would not be able to handle those minutes in the playoffs. We’re doing fine without Horvat, and it’s slowed Lamikko to look like a rising Center stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, SilentSam said: We’re doing fine without Horvat, and it’s slowed Lamikko to look like a rising Center stud. Bo is a leader that steps up in big games. You don’t trade him for a project like Lafreniere. If he busts that’s a huge hole in your lineup that will be tough to replace. Miller comes up big in games but is a turnover machine. That kills you in the playoffs. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) On 1/27/2022 at 11:05 PM, N4ZZY said: We need to keep Bo. He’s an excellent 2nd line centre. Heard on the radio today that, I think Sat, was saying that Bo could be signed for less than we all think. He has earned the right to decide if he wants to extend for reasonable dollars. That means keeping him this deadline and then trying to sign him for a max term deal at less than $6.5 per year. If he doesn’t go for that, then trade him to a team that missed out on a big UFA target. Another ticket to the 2023 draft lottery can be part of the return. Edited January 30, 2022 by Provost 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 7:25 PM, Phat Fingers said: Solely, cause if I was to build a defensive partner for Quinn Hughes, it would be a Paryako clone. I think he was an incredible pick by St Louis and it was not serious. But it did create a buzz… remember those Benny The Hutt for Paryako proposals? If only Jimmer, if only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 23 hours ago, Provost said: He has earned the right to decide if he wants to extend for reasonable dollars. That means keeping him this deadline and then trying to sign him for a max term deal at less than $6.5 per year. If he doesn’t go for that, then trade him to a team that missed out on a big UFA target. Another ticket to the 2023 draft lottery can be part of the return. The trouble is that if we deal both Miller and Horvat, who's going to be our second line centre, or if Petey can't play top line centre minutes, who's going to be our first line centre?? We cannot deal both unless we get a young centreman in return for Bo, or for Miller. This gives me a headache. Seems like we have needs all over the roster. Maybe this roster isn't as good as we thought it was, which means Benning did a horrific job assembling and building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: The trouble is that if we deal both Miller and Horvat, who's going to be our second line centre, or if Petey can't play top line centre minutes, who's going to be our first line centre?? We cannot deal both unless we get a young centreman in return for Bo, or for Miller. This gives me a headache. Seems like we have needs all over the roster. Maybe this roster isn't as good as we thought it was, which means Benning did a horrific job assembling and building. To be fair, if you start trading away the top 2 C's of any team, it's not going to look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Unless the return was insane, we don't trade Horvat. Simple as that. Especially if we move Miller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, kloubek said: Unless the return was insane, we don't trade Horvat. Simple as that. Especially if we move Miller. Bo will be saying show me de money soon enough though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, aGENT said: To be fair, if you start trading away the top 2 C's of any team, it's not going to look good. its why we need a legit 3C back. Bo can take over 1C. Petey 2C. Lammikko 4C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Bo will be saying show me de money soon enough though Reports say that's not true. If he and his agent don't try dragging it on as reports suggest they won't, and they just get it done with term, everyone's happy. He also said he wants to stay. An offer would have to be monstrous if we move our captain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-walker Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I would trade him in a second. He has no motor like garland. He can’t score at a top level like Miller. He even isn’t a good leader. Miller had to come to his rescue last yr when team had covid. He not a power forward like Miller. We have too many centres. He hasn’t been able to win before rebuild or after. We need a new captain who is a top scorer to take this team to the next level. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: The trouble is that if we deal both Miller and Horvat, who's going to be our second line centre, or if Petey can't play top line centre minutes, who's going to be our first line centre?? We cannot deal both unless we get a young centreman in return for Bo, or for Miller. This gives me a headache. Seems like we have needs all over the roster. Maybe this roster isn't as good as we thought it was, which means Benning did a horrific job assembling and building. Well you are assuming the baseline is that we actually have a way to keep Miller and Horvat. I had posted that we give Horvat a chance chance to extend early, and only move on if he won’t. If he doesn’t want to on July 1st then that is a clear indication that we aren’t going to have him when he is a UFA a year later so we might as wlll get some assets back. If we get picks in trades there is nothing saying that we can’t flip them for more immediate needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, kloubek said: Reports say that's not true. If he and his agent don't try dragging it on as reports suggest they won't, and they just get it done with term, everyone's happy. He also said he wants to stay. An offer would have to be monstrous if we move our captain. Bo doesn't seem like a guy that wants to uproot his family. The only way Bo doesn't re-sign is if we enter a long rebuild. I don't think we are doing that here when a quick 2-year retool would do just fine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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