mll Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, Alflives said: Bo + Bone + McDonnough for Byram + Newhook? Draft picks more likely. Colorado also interested in Toews per Friedman. Chicago looking for a typical TDL return - might make Toews a better target than Horvat if the Canucks insist on roster players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, fanofvan said: Byram will fit on our LTIR perfectly! Severson is also a pending UFA, so potentially a rental. His recent IR stint (Lower body) may actually be good to rest his concussion issues further but who knows. Severson for Boeser allows us to either just free the cap if Severson doesn’t fit or re-sign him in a down year for a reasonable amount. No bad outcomes on that one. Edited December 20, 2022 by Kobayashi Maru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Was merely an example of dollar in dollar out not an actual proposal. Canucks/NJD not really good trade partners. Don't really see anything that would interest them. Skating speed is not the Canucks' forté. Quinn Hughes would box out Luke Hughes - there's not enough minutes / role to go around with Hamilton also in the mix as offensive D and PP QB. Doesn't fit either the big and suffocating defence that Fitzgerald says he wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mll said: Canucks/NJD not really good trade partners. Don't really see anything that would interest them. Skating speed is not the Canucks' forté. Quinn Hughes would box out Luke Hughes - there's not enough minutes / role to go around with Hamilton also in the mix as offensive D and PP QB. Doesn't fit either the big and suffocating defence that Fitzgerald says he wants. Again was a dollar in dollar out example, not a proposal. So not sure why you're carrying on about whether or not they're good trade partners lol Edited December 20, 2022 by canuck73_3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted December 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: The Carolina one seems a little more realistic… And even that, they likely far prefer to give up Drury over Jarvis IMO. CAR really does seem like the best fit IMO. Horvat would fit like a glove on that team (hard working, North-South team), at their biggest weakness (scoring 2C bumper PP guy). Horvat would love playing there and they'd love what he brings. And they have the pieces we need... Morrow (RHD), Drury (mid 6 C) and some mix of Seeley (RHD)/Heimosalmi(RHD)/Nikishin(LHD). They send back Gardiner's expiring LTIR and it even covers most of the cap difference for them. 1 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, aGENT said: And even that, they likely far prefer to give up Drury over Jarvis IMO. CAR really does seem like the best fit IMO. Horvat would fit like a glove on that team (hard working, North-South team), at their biggest weakness (scoring 2C bumper PP guy). Horvat would love playing there and they'd love what he brings. And they have the pieces we need... Morrow (RHD), Drury (mid 6 C) and some mix of Seeley (RHD)/Heimosalmi(RHD)/Nikishin(LHD). They send back Gardiner's expiring LTIR and it even covers most of the cap difference for them. amen I would throw in schenn or Aiden Mcdonut I could see Bo resinging there.. I wonder if CAR wants demko too for an even larger trade. Jarvis + Drury + Morrow + 2023 1st + Gardiner's LTIR + cap dump for Bo, Schenn and Demko Schenn can go win another cup and resign with us Edited December 20, 2022 by Canucks Curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Canucks Curse said: amen I would throw in schenn or Aiden Mcdonut I could see Bo resinging there.. I wonder if CAR wants demko too for an even larger trade. Jarvis + Drury + Morrow + 2023 1st + Gardiner's LTIR + cap dump for Bo, Schenn and Demko They don't need Demko. They already have Kochetkov as their "goalie of the future" and vets Anderson and Raanta. That honestly one of the better goalie groups in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, aGENT said: CAR really does seem like the best fit IMO. Horvat would fit like a glove on that team. Horvat would love playing there and they'd love what he brings. Maybe, but don't you think someone would need an actual personality to fit in with those post-game theatrics they got going on over there? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, mll said: Draft picks more likely. Colorado also interested in Toews per Friedman. Chicago looking for a typical TDL return - might make Toews a better target than Horvat if the Canucks insist on roster players. Toews makes more sense from a rental standpoint imo, unless they ship cap out Colorado can't afford to retain Horvat anyway They could rent Toews though and write it off as trying to repeat Horvat is likely to get a greater return from a team who's committed to trying to extend him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Muttley said: The one that sparks some interest on this is the one that has the Canucks getting Seth Jarvis, Stefan Noesen, Scott Morrow + 2023 third. That's just one. There may be many really good, logical deals for the Canucks that could be much better as long as Canuck's management isn't hell bent on instantaneous quick fix results that are for the present only. With a generally good proven record all through his career, Horvat should garner a excellent return. Lots of tempting deals out there. I hope management changes their tune and considers futures as the principle return on any deals they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, aGENT said: And even that, they likely far prefer to give up Drury over Jarvis IMO. CAR really does seem like the best fit IMO. Horvat would fit like a glove on that team (hard working, North-South team), at their biggest weakness (scoring 2C bumper PP guy). Horvat would love playing there and they'd love what he brings. And they have the pieces we need... Morrow (RHD), Drury (mid 6 C) and some mix of Seeley (RHD)/Heimosalmi(RHD)/Nikishin(LHD). They send back Gardiner's expiring LTIR and it even covers most of the cap difference for them. I'd love to get our hands on Seeley. I think he's got something special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, ilduce39 said: Lots of tempting deals out there. I hope management changes their tune and considers futures as the principle return on any deals they make. Not up to management. Our owner is the guy setting the direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: Not up to management. Our owner is the guy setting the direction. JR has more control than you think. He wouldn’t have come here if he didn’t. I’m pretty sure these guys will give Bo one more final offer before he is shipped out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Can you imagine if we make some hockey trades to clear cap, etc and don't get any extra 2023 first round picks back aside from our own #10-15 pick? I’ll be pulling what remains of my hair out. Ffs, this is the year to collect more 1st and 2nd round picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, grandmaster said: JR has more control than you think. He wouldn’t have come here if he didn’t. I’m pretty sure these guys will give Bo one more final offer before he is shipped out. That’s your opinion, which you are (of course) entitled to but IMHAO JR is following the direction of our owner. JR is an old boys club guy. He will never challenge his owner. He should. But he won’t. JR likes the big seat on an NHL club. He’s selling his soul to have one here. Very sad. Edited December 21, 2022 by Alflives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, steviewonder20 said: Can you imagine if we make some hockey trades to clear cap, etc and don't get any extra 2023 first round picks back aside from our own #10-15 pick? I’ll be pulling what remains of my hair out. Ffs, this is the year to collect more 1st and 2nd round picks. Would be great! Tell that to our owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: IMHAO JR is following the direction of our owner. JR is an old boys club guy. He will never challenge his owner. He should. But he won’t. Maybe. He is also an old man. It’s all about legacy and producing another Cup. JR may not have time or patience to rebuild. We may all be looking at this wrong and JR might be the one blocking the tear down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, grandmaster said: Maybe. He is also an old man. It’s all about legacy and producing another Cup. JR may not have time or patience to rebuild. We may all be looking at this wrong and JR might be the one blocking the tear down. Maybe JR actually believes his key core of Petey, Demko, and Hughes is as good as Letang, Crosby, and Malkin, so if he builds an excellent supporting cast they can win the Cup. Would be awesome if in a couple years those three are supported with a great group and we are a top team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, aGENT said: And even that, they likely far prefer to give up Drury over Jarvis IMO. CAR really does seem like the best fit IMO. Horvat would fit like a glove on that team (hard working, North-South team), at their biggest weakness (scoring 2C bumper PP guy). Horvat would love playing there and they'd love what he brings. And they have the pieces we need... Morrow (RHD), Drury (mid 6 C) and some mix of Seeley (RHD)/Heimosalmi(RHD)/Nikishin(LHD). They send back Gardiner's expiring LTIR and it even covers most of the cap difference for them. Horvat seems like a perfect Rob Brind'Amour player 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just now, awalk said: Horvat seems like a perfect Rob Brind'Amour player Would we do Bo for KK + Jarvis? Or KK + Morrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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