MeanSeanBean Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Dazzle said: That is the fault of the media, as well as the fanbase. Insanity is repeating the same things over and over. The fact that the defense was criticized for so many years as being terrible, yet nothing changes. In fact, much of the roster has not changed. Were we a stanley cup contender last year? I really don't understand why so little was done to fix this team. How is this the media's fault? Everything in that post was directly the fault of management. What has the Vancouver media done to foster this type of frustration exactly? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_ws Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 It doesn't bother me either. Paying fans can do what they want. We are frustrated and sick of a decade of losing and going nowhere so I get that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Sometimes it takes extreme measures to drive the point home. I have no problem with it. If fans didn't watch games, buy merchandise or watch on TV, there would be no team. It's the only way fans seem to get noticed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 it is kind of scary that usually when the crowd loses it, Francesco does something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John.Tallhouse Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 jersey tosses in less that a year tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Maybe we should just be grateful he didn't throw his pants on the ice? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Maybe we should just be grateful he didn't throw his pants on the ice? https://youtu.be/U14QaBE8N7c 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ktcy2 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Nothing wrong with jersey toss imo. These things happen all the time everywhere in the world for sports games. Stop being so nice all the time it does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperlynx Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 This is one of the reasons our franchise will perhaps never win the Cup - unfortunately. Move them to a quiet market (Portland, let's say), and they will do just fine. Without rabid fans, an army of professional hockey pimps ("journalists" and home-grown "specialists"), and endless "win today" pressure on management. Same goes for Toronto or Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Lamora Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 No particular comment on the jersey toss here, but there is a rather slimy underbelly to the Canuck fanbase, no doubt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxm Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, copperlynx said: This is one of the reasons our franchise will perhaps never win the Cup - unfortunately. Move them to a quiet market (Portland, let's say), and they will do just fine. Without rabid fans, an army of professional hockey pimps ("journalists" and home-grown "specialists"), and endless "win today" pressure on management. Same goes for Toronto or Montreal. This team was on the road till last night and couldn't even handle the pressure of holding a 3rd period lead. Break up the room. Send a message. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Jersey tossing is disrespectful, but that's the entire point. It's something you do when you feel you have no other way to express your frustration in a way that will get attention. This also isn't just an 0-4-2 start. This is an 0-4-2 start after missing the playoffs for 7 out of the last 8 seasons with a team that's clearly not playing up to their potential and very little flexibility to make meaningful improvements to the roster. Not everyone has to agree with how people are expressing their anger, but I find it hard to fault people for being fed up at this point. I'm sick of this team's corner cutting and it starts at the very top of the organization. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, GB5 said: If only this team actually did a rebuild. Instead we hear Rutherford last night rehashing the same "rebuild on the fly" nonsense that was being said 8 years ago. I think it is ok to be frustrated after 5 decades of no championships and having new management be given an opportunity to move Miller and Boeser but instead choose to double down on GMJB's team. I would never throw a jersey and support the hard working players who show some pride in the outcome. I don't like floaters and hate seeing history repat itself. Canucks history is on in which they seem content on just making the playoffs but never actually winning them. Totally. Fans have a right to be upset that the standards of “just making the playoffs and anything can happen” is just not a end goal any franchise should end. Where as Trevor Linden in the summer of 2018 stepped away from the team because Benning and Francisco wanted a to chase the playoffs instead of a taredown. Well procrastinating that proper rebuild and double downing this pretender status of retooling on the fly has just caused more impatience in the fan base. Some people say that this market can’t stomach a proper rebuild. I call that bullsh!t because fans can see the direction that the team is going in. They can see growth and hope. In this teams state, where is the hope? Where is the direction other then the same numb narrative that just squeezing into a wild card spot is good enough. Fans (not all but most) are not stupid and have seen the same movie for the last 10 years. We are done with this mediocre mandate and would be in favour of a REAL REBUILD, one that has us accumulate as many picks and prospects as the teams like Chigago, LA, Anaheim and others have done but not us, never us. That is the man at the tops issue and fans have a right to be frustrated and upset. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: Most rebuilds don't last 10 years with no fruits of the labour We didn't get a rebuild because the owner didn't want it/listen to Linden. This is what happens when not all the way in or committed to doing the right things. You end up with the Vietnam War. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 At this point I think the jersey toss needed to happen. I hate it but a message from fans needs to be seen/heard to mgmt, players and ownership. This is unacceptable and while some decent moves were done the management didn't get anything close to deal with the real issues. I barely care to watch right now and after last year have zero desire to spend my money to travel down to watch any games. I used to hit 5-6 a year pre covid. That is a lot of money for several Vancouver businesses considering we'd hit 3 or 4 restaurants, a pub after, a hotel room or 3 and spend money at the game itself when compared to your average local going to a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Better than burning the jersey, I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure1010 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Dazzle said: I think we won't necessarily agree on everything that has happened this season, but I'm sure most of us will agree that the jersey toss was in bad taste. Shame on that person. I've criticized this management pretty much from the beginning, but even I think the jersey toss is low class. It reflects badly on this fanbase. I've watched hockey for many, many years. I've seen glimpses of the bad Canucks teams in the 80's and 90s (prior to 94). I've followed other bad teams. I honestly don't remember a fanbase that has so little patience this early in the season that would throw a jersey down. This is a very spoiled fanbase. The state of this team is definitely not as bad as the other teams I mentioned. Suck it up. U think the jersey toss is disgusting. Have u watched this team play? The effort of this team is disgusting. Someone throwing a jersey on the ice,as long as it’s not in play, I have no problem with. People are allowed to show displeasure however they feel. You think this fan base has no patience. We’ve been patient for almost a decade. Fans of this team have been screaming and begging for a proper rebuild. Yes rebuilds take time. The LA kings won the cup in 2014. Rebuilt and are already better than the Canucks. Anaheim ducks traded for Kesler at the 2015 draft were one of the top teams in the west for a few years after. Rebuilt and are already better than the Canucks. Both these teams are division rivals. Have great young players. Have numerous assets to show. And great prospect pools. So maybe if we just did something proper for once we might actually get a good team? But we have a couple young great players. Many old aging slow grossly overpaid players. No assets. And one of the worst prospect systems in the nhl. And to top it off we have been a cap cieling team every year for almost a decade. The one player we could have moved to completely revamp our prospect system and our defence and free up some cap space. We extended to a huge contract that hasn’t even kicked in yet. And he’s been the WORST player on the team so far this year. So fans are allowed to be upset and impatient. This team short and long term vision is looking murky at best. this team needs a proper break down and rebuild. The problem is there’s so many players on this team due to their contracts are immovable and are negative value. This is going to hurt for a while 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I hate it because it forces JR to say dumb crap like adding more failed mid 20 year olds from other teams to "fix" this. At least it was all the passive fish from what I saw. No real good jerseys anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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