Fred65 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Let's hope they recognize he has a future and not do another Forsling on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 11:33 AM, Fred65 said: Let's hope they recognize he has a future and not do another Forsling on him Forsling was traded much early on and it ended up being a horrible trade for Vancouver, to say the least. Benning's worst trade by far. At least OEL and Garland are usable. Clendenning was utter trash. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 49 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Forsling was traded much early on and it ended up being a horrible trade for Vancouver, to say the least. Benning's worst trade by far. At least OEL and Garland are usable. Clendenning was utter trash. I agree I was always a fan of Forsling and trading him at time for a AHL prospect was awful.. I can't wait to spend lots of time at training camp in Victoria.. I feel Raty 20-6'2 - 195 lbs - C - will feel more comfortable and will be one of the surprises at camp -Future #2--#3 Centre.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Forsling was traded much early on and it ended up being a horrible trade for Vancouver, to say the least. Benning's worst trade by far. At least OEL and Garland are usable. Clendenning was utter trash. It was a terrible trade. But Benning's worst? That bar is way too high (or too low, depending on your point of view). What about the OEL trade--certainly the NHL's worst trade of the year when it happened and one of the worst in team history.. And I hated the Sutter-Bonino trade with Pittsburgh -- not so much for the exchange of players but Canucks also traded away a second round pick and Clendening (the guy they traded away Forsling for). But the worst part was that Sutter had only a year left on his contract and Benning promptly re-signed the "foundational" Sutter long term at a cap hit that was much too high. (Bonino turned around and was a critical component in two Cups for Pittsburgh.) To me, this trade encapsulated a lot of what was wrong with Benning. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, JamesB said: It was a terrible trade. But Benning's worst? That bar is way too high (or too low, depending on your point of view). What about the OEL trade--certainly the NHL's worst trade of the year when it happened and one of the worst in team history.. And I hated the Sutter-Bonino trade with Pittsburgh -- not so much for the exchange of players but Canucks also traded away a second round pick and Clendening (the guy they traded away Forsling for). But the worst part was that Sutter had only a year left on his contract and Benning promptly re-signed the "foundational" Sutter long term at a cap hit that was much too high. (Bonino turned around and was a critical component in two Cups for Pittsburgh.) To me, this trade encapsulated a lot of what was wrong with Benning. I think you overstated Bonino's importance. Bonino was traded away after one season and he played pretty average to the rest of his career. We don't know why he was traded after one season. Perhaps he asked to be traded. 15 goals and 24 assists for 39 points was not bad at all during Vancouver. However, after the trade, he produced at about the same rate in Pittsburgh. In fact, he is/was a 40 point player (and never exceeded that number again). The trade was/is a wash for both sides in hindsight. Bonino's playoff numbers during one season give Pittsburgh an edge. On the other hand, the Forsling trade hurt the Canucks in more ways than one. We NEEDED an offensive D man like him. He also tended to score a lot with the Canucks around. And now, we see him skating in the finals. The Canucks did not sink because of Bonino and/or Sutter. Edited June 7, 2023 by Dazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Guys, Forsling was 24 when he finally stuck in the NHL. In his 23 year old season he only played in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 9:10 PM, VancouverHabitant said: Guys, Forsling was 24 when he finally stuck in the NHL. In his 23 year old season he only played in the AHL. Totally. People talk about the mistake in letting him go, but for years after we could have rectified that mistake by offering a conditional 7th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 6:10 PM, VancouverHabitant said: Guys, Forsling was 24 when he finally stuck in the NHL. In his 23 year old season he only played in the AHL. Evidence for the position that one must be patient in developing D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I truly hope they have this kid on a skating program right now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, 250Integra said: I truly hope they have this kid on a skating program right now... Vcr have shown some faith in his future, it's up to him. I'm sure he was provided with list of improvements he needs to make. Now it's up to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby James Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Excited about Raty! He needs to develop more and I'm hoping for a big season in Abby. Doesn't matter to me if he doesn't get called up, but there is a chance for sure. Like many of us I hope the revamp of the development system in Vancouver has been going successfully and Raty benefits from that in the areas he needs help in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 3:10 AM, VancouverHabitant said: Guys, Forsling was 24 when he finally stuck in the NHL. In his 23 year old season he only played in the AHL. PA got two of those players Johansson and Hirose is in that age. So it will be fun to see if Wilds fans talk the same about Johansson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckLuck19 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Really hoping to see Raty take a big step in skating over the summer, along with Bains, and the big club Boeser. All three of these players have alot of talent and if they focus on improving their skating all can contribute alot to the big club now (Boeser) and in time Raty and Bains. Let’s hope the team has given then names of skating coaches they know can improve their strides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I wouldn't have put him as number 3, Silovs has been more impressive for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 What are the chances that Aatu comes into camp ready to go and takes the #3 center spot for opening night? With his size and decent face off % I think we may see him on opening night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 11 hours ago, dpn1 said: What are the chances that Aatu comes into camp ready to go and takes the #3 center spot for opening night? With his size and decent face off % I think we may see him on opening night. Only if his skating has improved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, 250Integra said: Only if his skating has improved... You mean like Hand and Danny’s skating? Guys like Raty use their brains to be ahead of the play. He’s a big body who is elite skilled and super smart. If he has the character to compete, then he’s a for sure 2C in the National League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Judging by his play when he joined the big club and in the AHL playoffs I'd say its slim he is ready for a NHL spot out of camp. His skating isn't terrible, but does need some work for sure. He looked a bit lacking still against men in terms of physical engagement and he also didn't really seem up to speed in terms of processing the speed of the game to me. That's not to bash the prospect at all tho, he had flashes of brilliance, u can see the IQ is there and the physical attributes are too - I think he will be real good NHL player. On projection, i also think there is a chance he makes the team after Xmas for some call-up action depending on injury. I do think he will learn in the A really quickly this year and be a huge star there by Xmas. You've seen from his past career he tends to take a while to settle into new surroundings and then lights it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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