250Integra Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: You mean like Hand and Danny’s skating? Guys like Raty use their brains to be ahead of the play. He’s a big body who is elite skilled and super smart. If he has the character to compete, then he’s a for sure 2C in the National League His skating mechanics are worse than Hank and Danny's at 35 years old. He is possible one of the worst professional skaters that I've ever seen. It looks like his skates are digging into the ground like 2 feet below, stuck in the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, 250Integra said: His skating mechanics are worse than Hank and Danny's at 35 years old. He is possible one of the worst professional skaters that I've ever seen. It looks like his skates are digging into the ground like 2 feet below, stuck in the mud. Totally wrong. Raty skates well enough to be an awesome 2C for us. He will be in the second convertible during our first Cup parade! Horvat was a terrible skater. Fast once he got going but slow as an elephant off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Totally wrong. Raty skates well enough to be an awesome 2C for us. He will be in the second convertible during our first Cup parade! Horvat was a terrible skater. Fast once he got going but slow as an elephant off the mark. Raty has good straight ahead speed but lacks quickness and agility in his skating. Horvat was never terrible but did make some big improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: Raty has good straight ahead speed but lacks quickness and agility in his skating. Horvat was never terrible but did make some big improvements. Horfat was terrible. No quickness at all. It’s why he cheated the game so much. Raty will soon prove (as has New Beau) to be a better player than the elephant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Alflives said: You mean like Hand and Danny’s skating? Unintentional Game of Thrones reference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I keep hearing Raty this Raty that but my question is why does a 2nd round pick earn or warrant so much attention. What's special about this kid. It sounds mostly like people jumping on the band wagon but who started it and if he's that good why would the NYI trade him. I'm curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I keep hearing Raty this Raty that but my question is why does a 2nd round pick earn or warrant so much attention. What's special about this kid. It sounds mostly like people jumping on the band wagon but who started it and if he's that good why would the NYI trade him. I'm curious Well, second round pics are a rarity around here and he is one of our few centre prospects, and in our top 5 of prospects. Also we still have a hole at centre ice and he is one of the few who may be able to take it, though likely needs a year or two more of development. He was also rated a top prospect the year before his draft but dropped because of his skating so potentially a lot of untapped talent there. And, well, this is the Atu Raty thread so what are we supposed to discuss how Alf told us how brilliant the OEL Garland trade was? Edited July 19, 2023 by DrJockitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, 250Integra said: His skating mechanics are worse than Hank and Danny's at 35 years old. He is possible one of the worst professional skaters that I've ever seen. It looks like his skates are digging into the ground like 2 feet below, stuck in the mud. Hank and Danny were probably the worst skaters in the entire NHL when they entered the league. Just brutal. Took them several years to even become NHL calibre. Raty is well ahead of where they were at. His straight line skating is actually quite good, he just needs to improve on his edge work and quickness. Raty has a great shot, is a good playmaker and is quite physical, especially in front of the net. He is also very good defensively. I see him as a really good 3C who can move up the lineup as a 2C when needed. I'm hoping he is in the lineup full time next year and we can move Blueger to 4C, or Aman takes the next step as a full time 4C... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I keep hearing Raty this Raty that but my question is why does a 2nd round pick earn or warrant so much attention. What's special about this kid. It sounds mostly like people jumping on the band wagon but who started it and if he's that good why would the NYI trade him. I'm curious Same draft # as Patrice Bergeron. It’s not about where a guy is picked; it’s about what level of player he becomes. The fact is we stole Raty for the elephant and he’s going to be great. Accept Benning is no longer our GM. We have smart people again. Smart like Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Unintentional Game of Thrones reference? Drunken fury fingers. Never seen this show. Is that Connor Garland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Man if players want out of Vancouver it's because the fans are so massively critical of our players. He's 20 years old. Maybe cut him some slack so he learns and hopefully gets better? Edited July 19, 2023 by Ghostsof1915 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Drunken fury fingers. Never seen this show. Is that Connor Garland? Either that or the dead drummer from Foo Fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, Alflives said: Drunken fury fingers. Never seen this show. Is that Connor Garland? Yup. That’s Conor Garland and Emilie Castonguay. Game of Thrones was a very popular Canucks fan fiction show. In that episode, Garland is named captain and Castonguay is adding the “C” to his uniform. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 16 hours ago, dpn1 said: What are the chances that Aatu comes into camp ready to go and takes the #3 center spot for opening night? With his size and decent face off % I think we may see him on opening night. I do wonder if that‘s why we haven’t gone out and gotten a veteran more proven 3C yet. I would like to go and get a Suter or Stastny type as an insurance policy but if Raty is ready to be a day 1 third line center that would be a huge win for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Fred65 said: I keep hearing Raty this Raty that but my question is why does a 2nd round pick earn or warrant so much attention. What's special about this kid. It sounds mostly like people jumping on the band wagon but who started it and if he's that good why would the NYI trade him. I'm curious He was considered a possibility for first overall by some prior to his draft year. I guess questions about his skating etc put him way back, but there's hype around him from way back when. Let's hope whatever is actually there can get developed into a real hockey player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Putgolzin said: He was considered a possibility for first overall by some prior to his draft year. I guess questions about his skating etc put him way back, but there's hype around him from way back when. Let's hope whatever is actually there can get developed into a real hockey player. I just wanted to know a few facts such as which areas he excelled in. Sure He's still young abd fingers crossed he'll woork out but this excuse he's only 20, there''s tons of 20 yar old out there, we hve a few ourselves but I don't see fans going on and on about them. Right now I suspect Sasson is further ahead as a centre ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I just wanted to know a few facts such as which areas he excelled in. Sure He's still young abd fingers crossed he'll woork out but this excuse he's only 20, there''s tons of 20 yar old out there, we hve a few ourselves but I don't see fans going on and on about them. Right now I suspect Sasson is further ahead as a centre ? Sassoon is 3 years older. Raty was drafted in the same spot as Bergeron. Great players come out of round two. Raty is great! Accept that fact and bow to Alf’s empties!!! Kneel too!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 why would any one care about Sasson age, the club simply needs a quality 3rd line centre.... period if Sasson can do the job great heck if Raty can do the job th same ..... good, Im not hung up on their respetive age. Ditto Rathbone or Hirote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Alflives said: You mean like Hand and Danny’s skating? Guys like Raty use their brains to be ahead of the play. He’s a big body who is elite skilled and super smart. If he has the character to compete, then he’s a for sure 2C in the National League It'll only get you so far. He does need to find another gear this is a reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Fred65 said: why would any one care about Sasson age, the club simply needs a quality 3rd line centre.... period if Sasson can do the job great heck if Raty can do the job th same ..... good, Im not hung up on their respetive age. Ditto Rathbone or Hirote Your right Fred, the player that has the best training camp makes the team, regardless of age. I don't see either Raty or Sasson making the team this season. It will be up to Aman and Tristen Nielson, who are better right now. In the long run, Raty will likely be the long term NHLer, but he has more development time ahead of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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