Odjick the Warrior Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Canucks trade Thatcher Demko Luke Schenn Jack Rathbone Edmonton Trades Jack Campbell Evan Bouchard Kailer Yamamoto 2023 1st Round pick 2024 2nd Round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Sign me up. No way the Oil are trading Bouch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil_314 Posted February 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) I think we're overvaluing Demko here -- as good as he was in the bubble, Campbell himself has gone 15-8-1 this season (after going 31-9-6 last year), so he's not really in the territory of Cal Petersen anymore since he's come back and re-established himself as a viable NHL option (even though Stu might be the guy, All-Star nomination and all). Schenn for the 2nd round pick may work? However, I'm not sure if Demko is >>>>> Campbell, and Rathbone's really a throw-in at this point, so I'm not sure if Yamamoto and part of the 1st are a cap dump? This seems heavily lopsided in our favor with all the young assets we're getting in return. Edited February 2, 2023 by Phil_314 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Yeah, I don't see it either. They just brought in Campbell last offseason. I could see them being interested in Schenn or being open to moving Yamamato though, not that I'd be interested in Yamamoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil_314 said: I think we're overvaluing Demko here -- as good as he was in the bubble, Campbell himself has gone 15-8-1 this season (after going 31-9-6 last year), so he's not really in the territory of Cal Petersen anymore since he's come back and re-established himself as a viable NHL option (even though Stu might be the guy, All-Star nomination and all). Schenn for the 2nd round pick may work? However, I'm not sure if Demko is >>>>> Campbell, and Rathbone's really a throw-in at this point, so I'm not sure if Yamamoto and part of the 1st are a cap dump? This seems heavily lopsided in our favor with all the young assets we're getting in return. You're underestimating how much negative value Bouchard has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Probably don't need Demko with Campbell but his GAA is 3.3 and save % under 0.900 which is pretty crap. Their goalies are pretty much set with Skinner getting an extension, but they need bottom-6 playoff-type forwards and decent defencemen. Schenn would fit them perfectly (and honestly, Pearson too if he was healthy). If we're selling the team, Puljujarvi is the perfect 3M 1 season cap dump coming back but I wonder who else on our roster they could use to flesh out their bottom-6? Joshua? Lazar? Garland (1M retained) + Schenn for Poolparty + 1st, 2nd or Bouchard? I'm starting to think Garland has negative value when they're talking about buying him out. I'd like to think Schenn's value is a mid-round 2nd but that could just be us fans over-hyping him. Surely it would cost Edmonton to get rid of Puljujarvi (maybe to the sound of a 3rd value-wise?). Bouchard is probably pretty untouchable, he's racking up points despite playing on their 3rd pairing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Thing is - it's EDM. CAL and EDM ... two teams we've never made a major trade with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Too bad the NHL isn't a video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Nah, I'd prefer McDavid continue to suffer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, IBatch said: Thing is - it's EDM. CAL and EDM ... two teams we've never made a major trade with. What? The Murzyn deal wasn't considered major? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Odjick the Warrior said: Canucks trade Thatcher Demko Luke Schenn Jack Rathbone Edmonton Trades Jack Campbell Evan Bouchard Kailer Yamamoto 2023 1st Round pick 2024 2nd Round pick Vancouver would have to clear cap room? Edmonton trade 9 million -- Van 5.9 million Oilers don't make this move... Schenn gets you a 2nd round pick -- -- Rathbone - Demko - --Gets Van ---Bouchard 23 #3 D man 6'3 bright future. - Yamamoto 5'10 speedy talented -- 1st rounder 4 yrs remaining on Campbell 31-- 4 yrs remain X 5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Yamamoto doesn't bring any element that we are missing in the line up. Bouchard I'd be interested even though he has some deficiencies. But will they trade him? Oilers just signed Campbell to a long term contract. Managers don't usually abandon their own signing that quickly. I'm not sure if there is a trade to be made here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, IBatch said: Thing is - it's EDM. CAL and EDM ... two teams we've never made a major trade with. Not really major but Paul Reinhart.....that one almost bit them in the ass (and really should have since Otto kicked the puck in the OT series elimination game; remember that was the only year the Lames won the Cup!). Even on his last legs, Reinhart was a force for us on the blueline that year (and the next). Lames thought he was finished but he still had some fight left in him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Open to trading Demko in right situation but don’t think this is it. LA makes more sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 This trade is clearly supposed to be geared towards EDM winning now. But Demko, Schenn, and Rathbone will not help them achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, King Heffy said: You're underestimating how much negative value Bouchard has. He's a 23 year old, former 1st round pick RHD who's still finishing his ELC and who put up 43 points in 81 games last season. Sure, Ceci has held down the top pair and #1 defensive RD role and Barrie's the PP1 QB, but if anything I wonder if an expanded role would help him realize his potential like how Bear's stepped up (Bouchard's likely not going to be the #1 all-round defender that Hughes needs as a partner, but he can hold his own, and we'd definitely have money and space for a guy like him after Myers' contract expires or gets moved). Edited February 2, 2023 by Phil_314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: He's a 23 year old, former 1st round pick RHD who's still finishing his ELC and who put up 43 points in 81 games last season. Sure, Ceci has held down the top pair and #1 defensive RD role and Barrie's the PP1 QB, but if anything I wonder if an expanded role would help him realize his potential like how Bear's stepped up (Bouchard's likely not going to be the #1 all-round defender that Hughes needs as a partner, but he can hold his own, and we'd definitely have money and space for a guy like him after Myers' contract expires or gets moved). And he's nowhere close to being able to play well enough in his own zone, and doesn't seem to be willing to learn. He's got 4 S's: slow, soft, stupid, and selfish. There's no chance he ever turns into a legit NHLer and Edmonton would be getting better just by getting rid of this useless pylon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Oilers won't give up that much, especially given Demko's injury concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 49 minutes ago, King Heffy said: And he's nowhere close to being able to play well enough in his own zone, and doesn't seem to be willing to learn. He's got 4 S's: slow, soft, stupid, and selfish. There's no chance he ever turns into a legit NHLer and Edmonton would be getting better just by getting rid of this useless pylon. Oof. That's definitely news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Oof. That's definitely news to me. Nah, that’s just Heff talking out of his arse like usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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