Smashian Kassian Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: The 2nd round pick is what kills me most. I’m somewhat okay trading the Isles pick for a D man, in fact I would have been surprised if they didn’t. I really wish that 2nd was a 2024 pick. This years is gonna be an early 2nd and I know we’re gonna be kicking ourselves in a few years when we see who was selected there. The silver lining is they got a 4th, so its technically moving back. The bad news is that still really sucks. So I agree. Perhaps other teams were in on Hronek & driving the price up a bit. Would've been great if they could've held it firm at a 3rd, although fingers crossed another deal happens that could recoup a 2nd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, McBackup said: Because Hronek is actually as good as Cale Makar and the GM who developed him couldn't see that. But our management could. Winningggggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 If we were starting from scratch this is a good deal... as a piece to somehow improve this defence, it is a bad deal. We aren't competing next year, and will have to pay this guy a big raise at the same time we owe Petterson one. We could have used that cap space now and done this deal in the summer when we knew better what the NYI pick was going to be. It makes us incrementally better as he is better than Bear, but we are too far from being competitive to have incremental improvements do anything. We need the major surgery that was promised. It is also a little strange that the Red Wings who are in the exact same rebuilding phase were happy to let him go. If we had a defence of: Hughes-Paryko Graves-Hronek Schenn-Bear ... that is a good fit. We have no way to get rid of both OEL and Myers easily for next year without destroying our future, so this makes little sense as we can't make pairings work 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxqhfeh Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Bo/2nd for Raty/Beauvillier/Hronek/4th good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mando27 said: It's sad and hilarious seeing some people defend this trade. Trades like this have never worked out for the Canucks and keep pushing them into more years of mediocrity. When was the last trade they made like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mando27 said: Yup Canucks got bent over and shown what competent management looks like by Detriot. What competent ownership looks like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Why does this franchise hate using second round picks so much I think Benning is still running things behind scenes. He's probably in hiding in Aqua's office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 These are one of those trades you can only evaluate w some time. FH impact w team Where do Islanders ultimately pick/trade Are there other moves in the works to bolster draft picks/roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob A Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 wow...give up a first round pick and a second for a rental; what a bone head move!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: What are ya thinking? We change our avatars. I already made this bet but I will do it with you as well. If OEL gets bought out then you need to change your avatar to Petey is a God for a month. If he is still on the team next year I will change my avatar to an OEL pic for a month. If he gets put on LTIR the bet is off... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Lamora Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Well, this trade will ultimately be judged in terms of how good Hronek is. He better be damn good is all I can say or else this has the makings of yet another sad sack development of a largely sad sack hockey franchise. Now, off to watch some YouTube clips of Hronek in the hopes that it cheers me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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awalk Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, sxqhfeh said: Bo/2nd for Raty/Beauvillier/Hronek/4th good? Pretty bad IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: I know that’s the cost the question is is it what we need? Kinda hoped we would target a D man that is really solid in their own end. That can still be accomplished on the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 People are looking at his points and not realizing that Hronek does nothing to address the fact that we need defenseman that can play defense more than anything. Hronek is not a strong defender. He’s the kind of guy you add to man your powerplay if you have no offense coming out of the back end like Barrie or Krug. He’s not someone a team who has Quinn fukcing Hughes should be paying a 1st and 2nd for. Absolutely pathetic trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanHockeyFan Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said: I would say management's understanding of the fanbase is misguided. They did say they were going for a re-tool this year, and fans weren't happy to be hearing that word again. I'm okay with being wrong three years from now - but this is indeed to wrong approach to take. Aside from potential Aquilini-Rutherford puppet theories, this approach is being taken because this team now revolves around Pettersson and Hughes. Drafting a bunch of RHD in this year's draft class requires 2-3 years to be ready for the NHL and then probably another 1-2 to become effective NHL'ers - assuming they even pan out. If everything goes well, Pettersson and Hughes will be pushing 30 by then and Miller/OEL will be past their primes. I understand the team is in shambles and we're in no position to compete, but how long are we going to take rebuild when Pettersson and Hughes are already in their prime? Edited March 1, 2023 by KoreanHockeyFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, sxqhfeh said: Bo/2nd for Raty/Beauvillier/Hronek/4th good? i feel this was a great trade but of coarse canuck fans always debby downers on most trades even if they good, flip has a good contract, is young and a defenceman , i feel this is a great move for now and the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Swank Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 The real frustrating thing about this is that it seemed the Canucks were truly recognizing the reality of their situation and how far away they are from being a true Cup contender and were making decent moves for the future of the organization the correct way, via the draft. And then they turn around and trade two very good picks. Ouch. I mean I hope Hronek ends up being great but this doesn't seem the right move at this moment at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, iceman64 said: Heck one dirty look from that third pairing would make most players back the F off in a hurry! Can see Train (literally) lifting guys out of the crease and throwing them.. You better believe it. The change in the D is coming. This was the first domino to fall. Expect alot more to come. 3-4 new Dmen at minimum. And some big nasty ones too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I think Benning is still running things behind scenes. He's probably in hiding in Aqua's office. JR and Allvin are just Benning and Gillis in disguise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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