Provost Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 He would be a good pick up, but how on earth do you afford raises for him, Petterson, and Hronek next season? Pesce > Hronek to me, although Carolina is a good enough team that Jalen Chatfield looks really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Provost said: He would be a good pick up, but how on earth do you afford raises for him, Petterson, and Hronek next season? Pesce > Hronek to me, although Carolina is a good enough team that Jalen Chatfield looks really good. Only way Pesce is in, is if Myers is out Which would be HUGE if true then we go get Cole for the penalty kill & to be Hronek's partner Hughes-Pesce Cole-Hronek Wolanin-Whocares Just imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Not really sure what we could offer tbh. 1st is automatic. Likely could use a cheaper scoring winger so beauviller would be in the deal. Maybe beauviller + raty + 2024 1st But we would have to be sure that we were contending. Bleh if we have to give up Raty + a 1st, pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Pears said: Pesce is my dream for this offseason. Get him and one of Graves or Soucy and we’re cookin’. I just don’t see the trade fit and if any team could go for him it’s buffalo have more assets then us to trade. having Miller on his new salary, signing hronek and extending petey be really tough to fit him in cap wise. im wondering how he’s going to age too or if he will decline like parayko. I just don’t think we have 1 the asset package to make the acquisition and 2 the cap space for him when he needs to be resigned and 3 scared how it will age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: He'll be 30 when he signs his 7-8 year deal. He's getting $6 million+. Hronek at $7 million+. Hughes at $10 million+ plus in 4 years. Where is the money coming from to fit all these guys? And where is Willander going to play, on the 3rd pairing? Why bother drafting a stud RHD who projects as a top pairing guy if you are just going to overpay for a 30 year old in free agency? If we were actually going to trade for Pesce, we should have drafted Matthew Wood instead... well considering they did sign Miller to a 7 year deal at the age of 30 i wouldn't put it past them.. and i don't think it's a bad thing for willander to start off on the 3rd pairing and slowly move his way up if he's capable.. although for a defenceman at that age i prolly go no more than max 5 years not sure if he would though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: Only way Pesce is in, is if Myers is out Which would be HUGE if true then we go get Cole for the penalty kill & to be Hronek's partner Hughes-Pesce Cole-Hronek Wolanin-Whocares Just imagine … or we have to downgrade at forward. Miller+ for Kotkaniemi and Pesce. We suddenly have a really solid D for the first time in a decade though. That would count as major surgery. Carolina and Miller would be a great fit. Myers going doesn’t even do it as we would still be in a huge cap crunch next season. Petterson, Pesce, and Hronek are going to cost in the $25+ million range. Edited June 30, 2023 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Provost said: … or we have to downgrade at forward. Miller+ for Kotkaniemi and Pesce Carolina and Miller would be a great fit. Myers going doesn’t even do it as we would still be in a huge cap crunch next season. Petterson, Pesce, and Hronek are going to cost in the $25+ million range. i dont think our guys are gonna trade Miller seems like theyd trade 1 impossible task for the other get a top pair RD (which they already believe they did in Hronek) but lose their 90 point 2C.. i dont see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Provost said: … or we have to downgrade at forward. Miller+ for Kotkaniemi and Pesce Carolina and Miller would be a great fit. Myers going doesn’t even do it as we would still be in a huge cap crunch next season. Petterson, Pesce, and Hronek are going to cost in the $25+ million range. i mean it's not even that bad 25+ still have around 12-13 for 9 majority of them are bottom 6 league min players i dont see podz getting much of a raise maybe 1.5mil and if they can manage to move a boeser or garland then we'd have plenty of cap space moving miller for pesce makes no sense because they are almost the same age and put a gigantic hole in the middle KK is at best a 3c moved horvat moving miller and prolly moving on from boeser either trade or runs out contract.. who's playing in the top 6?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, EddieVedder said: Ill take tanev. Tanev has that x factor and is low maintenance. I find these american players way too high maintenence. Tanev would be perfect for us if we can get him back for cheap. Only 1 year left at an affordable price. Hughes loved him and he would fit right in at a low short term cap hit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: Right now if Klimovich and Raty are going to work out it looks like around the time OEL penalty balloons. Around that time we should be seeing Lekk and probably Willander sniffing around the NHL team. Silovs will have had some NHL experience by then. Lots of options coming for cost controlled players and cap will be climbing. A few contracts come off, Brock will be off books, Garland in three. We need to see what we will be paying Hronek and EP. There is some money to spend but nothing crazy. I agree. I hope to see both Willander and Lekkerimaki in 2 years. Klimovich and Raty well. And Silovs. Willander and Hronek will be our top 4 RHD guys. We need a lefty to complete the top 4. Not sure the fake Petey is the answer. We need a real solid defensive defenceman. If Silovs is ready to be the #1 then we could trade Demko before he’s a UFA. I think we got most of our talent in place now. We just need to find some sandpaper guys and some defensive specialists to complete the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I’m not really interested in this. Screams 2024 first rounder. No thanks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, Provost said: … or we have to downgrade at forward. Miller+ for Kotkaniemi and Pesce. We suddenly have a really solid D for the first time in a decade though. That would count as major surgery. Carolina and Miller would be a great fit. Myers going doesn’t even do it as we would still be in a huge cap crunch next season. Petterson, Pesce, and Hronek are going to cost in the $25+ million range. That trade would have to happen in the next 28 hours or Miller will be a Canuck for at least the next 4 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Poking around for moar D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Pesce is the perfect partner for Quinn BUT he’ll come in at 6.5m x 8 years at 29 years of age and that’s a similar deal hronek is going to get be careful what you wish for… hughes-pesce soucy-hronek that’s pretty sick doe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, babalu said: Tanev would be perfect for us if we can get him back for cheap. Only 1 year left at an affordable price. Hughes loved him and he would fit right in at a low short term cap hit. I like acquiring Tanev for the coming season and seeing how he does healthwise. Wallinder is likely 2-3yrs away and even then, he may not be able to step into the Quinn's partner role. If Tanev fits in well for next season, they could and another 2yrs. I don't mind losing the 1st for Pesce; he's a decent partner for Hughes, but I don't like the term. 7/8 yrs along with the same for Hronek could end up being a huge liability for the team in the future. I don't think Quinn needs a costly shut down dman for a partner. He is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 as much as I’d love to see what Hughes can do with a legit partner, one of his superpowers is playing great with a complimentary (less expensive) partner. IMHO, we’re not in a position to not take advantage of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, higgyfan said: I like acquiring Tanev for the coming season and seeing how he does healthwise. Wallinder is likely 2-3yrs away and even then, he may not be able to step into the Quinn's partner role. If Tanev fits in well for next season, they could add another 2yrs. I don't mind losing the 1st for Pesce; he's a decent partner for Hughes, but I don't like the term. 7/8 yrs along with the same for Hronek could end up being a huge liability for the team in the future. I don't think Quinn needs a costly shut down dman for a partner. He is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, billabong said: Pesce is the perfect partner for Quinn BUT he’ll come in at 6.5m x 8 years at 29 years of age and that’s a similar deal hronek is going to get be careful what you wish for… hughes-pesce soucy-hronek that’s pretty sick doe I rather get a stop gap personally. Signing Schenn for 2 years or acquiring Tanev if he becomes available. I would imagine Tanev could be had for a 2nd in 2025. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, KKnight said: I rather get a stop gap personally. Signing Schenn for 2 years or acquiring Tanev if he becomes available. I would imagine Tanev could be had for a 2nd in 2025. Same here. Willander should be ready at the end of 24/25… Schenn for 2-3 years at a low salary fits perfectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 No to Pesce. Too old to give up premium assets for. We already have Hronek who we will be signing long term and Willander will be here in 2 years. I'd rather sign a couple UFA Dmen to 2-3 year contracts as stop gaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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