avelanch Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 yes, if markstrom is recalled at any time he would be lost on waivers if we were to send him back down. eriksson is the safer recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 We will for sure lose Markstrom on waivers this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 the worse the goalie the better the coach. I think that's generally the case for any players who become coaches. Goalies or otherwise. Talented players who the game might come more naturally to, don't have to study the game as hard as a fringe guy clawing and scraping away at staying in the game. That's not to say that talented players don't work hard but less talented ones have to work harder and learn more than someone with less natural talent who relies more on instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Not so necessary in a deep draft. Lack + to a team that needs it would get us possibly into the top 20. Such a frigging burn that we are the deepest team in the league at the ONE position that literally has no serious use for depth at all. Imagine if we had this depth at RW, LW or even D. Frigging goaltending depth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Lack + to a team that needs it would get us possibly into the top 20. Such a frigging burn that we are the deepest team in the league at the ONE position that literally has no serious use for depth at all. Imagine if we had this depth at RW, LW or even D. Frigging goaltending depth... At least we won't have to draft any goalies any time soon. Now we can focus on drafting defensemen and right wingers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 yes, if markstrom is recalled at any time he would be lost on waivers if we were to send him back down. eriksson is the safer recall I thought a player wouldn't have to pass through waivers again as long as the call up was less than 30 days or 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 yes, if markstrom is recalled at any time he would be lost on waivers if we were to send him back down. eriksson is the safer recall Agreed! The only way that Markstrom is recalled by Vancouver is if Lack has been traded. I can see that as a possibility, but I don't think there's anything imminent in next couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I thought a player wouldn't have to pass through waivers again as long as the call up was less than 30 days or 10 games. unless there is a new provision in the new CBA that i don't know about, that's only for when the player clears waivers and isn't sent down to the farm team right away. Edited October 29, 2014 by avelanch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't think we should call up Markstrom, even if we trade Lack. I think it would be much better for his development to dominate the AHL and see if he can't backstop Utica to make a serious run at the Calder Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't think we should call up Markstrom, even if we trade Lack. I think it would be much better for his development to dominate the AHL and see if he can't backstop Utica to make a serious run at the Calder Cup. That's why I want to move Lack at the Draft. Give Markstrom the season in the AHL and let him dominate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 unless there is a new provision in the new CBA that i don't know about, that's only for when the player clears waivers and isn't sent down to the farm team right away. When I Google - Explanation of NHL Waiver Rules - I get this.... Q: What about players that bounce frequently between different leagues? Do they need to clear waivers every time they are sent down? A: No, a player need not clear waivers if the following three conditions are satisfied. i) The player has already cleared waivers once in the current season ii) Since the last time the player cleared waivers he has not played in 10 or more NHL games. iii) Since the last time the player cleared waivers he has not spent 30 or more days on an NHL roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 When I Google - Explanation of NHL Waiver Rules - I get this.... Q: What about players that bounce frequently between different leagues? Do they need to clear waivers every time they are sent down? A: No, a player need not clear waivers if the following three conditions are satisfied. i) The player has already cleared waivers once in the current season ii) Since the last time the player cleared waivers he has not played in 10 or more NHL games. iii) Since the last time the player cleared waivers he has not spent 30 or more days on an NHL roster. That sounds like he could go back and forth without having to clear waivers as long as it is less than 10games or 30 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 That sounds like he could go back and forth without having to clear waivers as long as it is less than 10games or 30 days Yeah, so he can back and forth within a month or 10 games (whichever happens first). After the 10th game or a month, he has to clear again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6YPE Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I doubt any goalie gets traded this year, imo. I believe this year is for Benning and Co. assess what they have, and next year we will be seeing bigger changes. We are talking new management and a bunch of new players, this is why I believe there wont be any major pieces moved, unless its a cant miss deal. If we all think back to when Benning signed Miller, it was very clear of the fact that he didnt think Lack was ready to be the number one and said he brought Miller in to be that calming verteran presence, and thats exactly what he has been. With Miller's 3 year contract that gives them time to evaluate, to be sure either Markstrom or Lack will be ready to take on bigger roles. Of course, depending on how things go, Miller could be moved at any time to make room for Markstrom and have a duo of him and Lack. If they are both developing at a good pace and one looks like they could truely take over the number one position then that makes Miller the expendable one, and I think this has been Benning's plan all along. To me it makes nothing but sense. Sign a proven guy to hold the fort until the young guys are ready. With the limited NTC that Miller has, it makes him movable. Time will tell, but Miller could be the one on the way out eventually, not Lack or Markstrom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So did he break the record or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So did he break the record or what? He didn't play tonight. He'll go for the record on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 He didn't play tonight. He'll go for the record on Friday. Are any if these games televised? I'd love to watch him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Are any if these games televised? I'd love to watch him play. I highly doubt it. Not a high enkugh demand for Utica games. Might get lucky and find a stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezy Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I doubt any goalie gets traded this year, imo. I believe this year is for Benning and Co. assess what they have, and next year we will be seeing bigger changes. We are talking new management and a bunch of new players, this is why I believe there wont be any major pieces moved, unless its a cant miss deal. If we all think back to when Benning signed Miller, it was very clear of the fact that he didnt think Lack was ready to be the number one and said he brought Miller in to be that calming verteran presence, and thats exactly what he has been. With Miller's 3 year contract that gives them time to evaluate, to be sure either Markstrom or Lack will be ready to take on bigger roles. Of course, depending on how things go, Miller could be moved at any time to make room for Markstrom and have a duo of him and Lack. If they are both developing at a good pace and one looks like they could truely take over the number one position then that makes Miller the expendable one, and I think this has been Benning's plan all along. To me it makes nothing but sense. Sign a proven guy to hold the fort until the young guys are ready. With the limited NTC that Miller has, it makes him movable. Time will tell, but Miller could be the one on the way out eventually, not Lack or Markstrom. Conclusion: anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Conclusion: anything is possible. Conclusion: One of our arguably four NHL or close to NHL ready goalies will likely be moved before next season to shore up depth elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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