Tre Mac Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: The Twins are just getting old. It happens to everyone. Doesn't happen to vampires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: Anson Carter and Trent Klatt did well with the Twins too. The Twins are just getting old. It happens to everyone. Put Granlund on their line and I'll bet their stats improve. Puck hound, defensive awareness, scoring potential and great hockey sense. They're old, but they should be getting at least 40-50 pts this year. Meanwhile, Granny is stuck with 'never gonna pass the puck Sutter' and has a whopping 3pts this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 16 hours ago, higgyfan said: I doubt if Burr or Granny would agree with you there. Do you want me to go down the list on the other side of the equation? I agree that Granlund did well there last year but then he played well with pretty much everyone last year. Granlund-Sutter-Gaunce have been a decent shutdown line to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/14/2017 at 5:09 PM, Tre Mac said: Doesn't happen to vampires. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Green does not sound happy with jake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if something happened behind the scenes like JV being 5 min late for a meeting or something else minor. I just think his benching has something more to do with simply not being physical enough because that could be said for everybody else on the team not named Dorsett or Biega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I've noticed Jake is a wee bit slower than he was at the beginning of the year. Not by much but at first he always seemed one step ahead of where the play was going. Now he just keeps up. When he has his energy up and skates hard it seems to feed him more creative opportunities. And better hits. Sometimes I think players try to follow instructions too much and creates hesitation in their game. I think he just has to simplify his game and work hard. And go the net and keep his stick on the ice and the Sedins will find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: I've noticed Jake is a wee bit slower than he was at the beginning of the year. Not by much but at first he always seemed one step ahead of where the play was going. Now he just keeps up. When he has his energy up and skates hard it seems to feed him more creative opportunities. And better hits. Sometimes I think players try to follow instructions too much and creates hesitation in their game. I think he just has to simplify his game and work hard. And go the net and keep his stick on the ice and the Sedins will find it. This was said when Jake was at the WJC, when he played under Willie and it’s already started now with Travis. He’s going to run out of racetrack sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 "I want to give my team the best chance to win" - Green who's team is now 1-3 without Virtanen in the lineup. Last night the Canucks were slow and definitely not physical. JV must of missed a meeting or something because on the surface this is a great way to destroy a prospect. Did they draft JV to be a checking 3rd/4th liner? Why are they singling him out to be more physical? And why not call out the plethora of other players that are no shows as of late? Just let the dam kid play. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 On 11/14/2017 at 2:55 PM, aGENT said: In fairness to NB, the PP has sucked for a few years now when he wasn't even coaching here. Perhaps the PP coach isn't the problem (or at least not the main problem.) IMO, the PP will continue to be bottom 10 of the league until the rebuild is more complete and especially, we have a legit PMD/PPQB on the point. Pouliot may eventually develop in to that guy, we may draft Dahlin etc but until we have a consistent threat, all the rearranging of deck chairs or different coaches/different systems matters very little. Take the twins and Edler off the PP and it will look a lot more dangerous. Trust me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Vanuckles said: Take the twins and Edler off the PP and it will look a lot more dangerous. Trust me. I'm not denying that the PP could be better - anything can always be improved - I'm saying that at best, until we have a PMD, PPQB (and more rebuilt team) you're looking at a 20-25 PP rather than a 25-31 PP. It's not going to be the earth shattering difference CDC seems to think it will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J-23 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, aGENT said: He's done a good job creating turnovers, hasn't been physical, but just let him play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, J-23 said: He's done a good job creating turnovers, hasn't been physical, but just let him play. Stop with the reining him in. Let him go! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post combover Posted November 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2017 I don’t understand why you draft a kid that plays fast, physical and on the edge and then tell him to stop playing the way that made him success and why he was drafted. Then act suprised that he’s less effective. I was excited when he was drafted finally a physical player that other teams will hate and know when hes on the ice. Then he does what young players that need to play on the line to be success did and threw a questionable hit and got suspended for it. The Coach and the captain call him out in the media then he comes back and is confused with what his role is if not the player they drafted then what is expected forecheck but not to hard,hit but don’t hit, be physical but do it nicely. I Feel bad for the kid, We should have drafted another cupcake and let this fast physical forward go play the way he learned to play and the reason he became a top pick for a team that would appreciate him and let him learn and find the fine line for himself. good thing we got gagner a -5 with lots of pp and ice time and with a whooping 6 points in 19 games as a-posed to pressbox jakes +3 and 4 points In 15 games with no power play or third period ice time. i know who I rather see 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I think the key with Jake at this point is to keep him hungry, to keep him playing with an edge and not to get too comfortable. Unfortunately, it looks like the easiest place to slot him in the line up is with the Sedins. I said before, players who compliment his skill set are who he should play with. More speed, guys who can set him up etc Horvat, Baertschi, Boeser, Granlund..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameburn Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 47 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: I think the key with Jake at this point is to keep him hungry, to keep him playing with an edge and not to get too comfortable. Unfortunately, it looks like the easiest place to slot him in the line up is with the Sedins. I said before, players who compliment his skill set are who he should play with. More speed, guys who can set him up etc Horvat, Baertschi, Boeser, Granlund..... When Eriksson is straightened out or bought out and the Sedins are gone, it should be easier to figure out where Virtanen should be. It makes no sense to put two guys who are slow puck control guys with a young demon like Virtanen. He needs quick players and maybe people who can hold their own physically (Boeser, Virtanen, Horvat would be one tough line to push off the puck.) No player should feel bound to play the physical game his mates can't or won't play. It makes him less than he should be. Alf is right: let him go!! Unleash him. With the Sedins he was either trying to play cute/set them up or chase down pucks and stand in front of the net. A good job for Maroon, or even Burrows, but Virt has more upside actually. He would be fantastic with Draisaitl and McDavid, truth be known, but that will only happen if he's traded. (Ahhh..... don't trade him!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrreindeer Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Too bad for Jake. It looks like another player they're trying to turn into the player they'd like him to be instead of letting him be himself. Who tells a player you've got to get a hit a shift( or period) when he can freewheel within their system and still be an asset doing what he does best.That being using his size, speed and shot and letting the hits come to him, instead of chasing hits all over the ice and getting out of position. that way he loses all the qualities that made him a 6th pick overall. And is getting $&!# on by Green because he's always out of position. They are going to confuse him and lose him and this has been a Canuck trait of bad management of players since the beginning. Haven't these canuck coaches learned anything in almost 50 yrs.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 11/14/2017 at 10:02 AM, PhillipBlunt said: I don't understand what Greens MO is with Jake either. He'll learn with more icetime, and get better, especially if he isn't handcuffed by playing with the Sedins. Regarding the PP, it's a pathetic joke. Newell Brown should be fired ASAP for thinking that trotting out the same formations and predictable puck movement will help generate any different outcome. It's embarrassing that the powerplay has been this bad for this long, and still the Sedins are getting time on the man advantage while barely being able to keep the puck in the zone. Yep. I'd like to know as well what Green's plan for Virtanen is, because it doesn't look like he's going to grow his game and improve by sitting in the press box. I personally also don't think Eriksson deserves to be back in. He has done almost nothing since he's signed with the Canucks. Worse signing by this franchise in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, mrreindeer said: Too bad for Jake. It looks like another player they're trying to turn into the player they'd like him to be instead of letting him be himself. Who tells a player you've got to get a hit a shift( or period) when he can freewheel within their system and still be an asset doing what he does best.That being using his size, speed and shot and letting the hits come to him, instead of chasing hits all over the ice and getting out of position. that way he loses all the qualities that made him a 6th pick overall. And is getting $&!# on by Green because he's always out of position. They are going to confuse him and lose him and this has been a Canuck trait of bad management of players since the beginning. Haven't these canuck coaches learned anything in almost 50 yrs.? apparently not. I just want Jake to be Jake, and play his game. I want him to score goals! That's what he can do. I don't want Virtanen to be a 4th line grinder. But, with that being said, it's probably what he turns out to be with the way that Green and management seems to want him to be. Sad, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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