Salmonberries Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 1:25 AM, Mathew Barzal said: I wish there was a way to show him what Tkachuk is doing right now. Literally the player I envisioned Virtanen being. A goal scoring, $&!# disturber going balls to the wall every shift. honestly, Tkackuk is the player I envisioned Tkackuk being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 2016-11-16 at 8:31 AM, Warhippy said: They are really going to simply give this kid away for nothing. It's ridiculous. Every decade we do this. Welcome back, Desi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/16/2016 at 4:32 PM, The 5th Line said: Yeah I was surprised how good he looked in that highlight package but he still has an immense amount of maturing to do. He has teammates wide open at the side of the net and he just shoots it, his head is down and he has severe tunnel vision. You can't be a one man show in the show Ryan Kesler invented tunnel vision! Apparently, Kesler's excuse was that he grew up near highways in Michigan where they had many signs that said "Do Not Pass". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Watching Comets game. They are losing 2-0, but JV looks really good. He's so bloody big and fast he creates every time on the ice. He's defensively the first forward back too. He's WAY TOO GOOD for that league. This demotion must be a fitness thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Alflives said: Watching Comets game. They are losing 2-0, but JV looks really good. He's so bloody big and fast he creates every time on the ice. He's defensively the first forward back too. He's WAY TOO GOOD for that league. This demotion must be a fitness thing. That's good to hear. So you think it's a question of effort for Jake? Or a question of not being intimidated by NHL players? Edited November 19, 2016 by Crabcakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: That's good to hear. So you think it's a question of effort for Jake? Or a question of not being intimidated by NHL players? He looks timid as &^@# in the NHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: That's good to hear. So you think it's a question of effort for Jake? Or a question of not being intimidated by NHL players? I think he's not fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Watching Comets game. They are losing 2-0, but JV looks really good. He's so bloody big and fast he creates every time on the ice. He's defensively the first forward back too. He's WAY TOO GOOD for that league. This demotion must be a fitness thing. I can't agree with that, there's plenty to critique in his game. Like in the 1st period when the teams are 4 on 4 and he's defending in his own zone. The puck carrier was slowly moving into the middle of the ice and Jake, standing right in front of him, was slowly backing up and surrendering the center. His speed definitely sets him apart in this league and it will allow him to try more creative plays like the wraparound attempts he made tonight. Being on the 1st line with Valk and Archie, playing big minutes and getting 2nd unit PP time is exactly where he needs to be and what he needs to be doing. You're probably right about his conditioning and that's a result of not getting minutes with the Canucks, It will be another bonus for him to play his way into game shape, as well as getting proper personalized coaching that WD and crew either isn't willing or capable of providing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, canuckledraggin said: I can't agree with that, there's plenty to critique in his game. Like in the 1st period when the teams are 4 on 4 and he's defending in his own zone. The puck carrier was slowly moving into the middle of the ice and Jake, standing right in front of him, was slowly backing up and surrendering the center. His speed definitely sets him apart in this league and it will allow him to try more creative plays like the wraparound attempts he made tonight. Being on the 1st line with Valk and Archie, playing big minutes and getting 2nd unit PP time is exactly where he needs to be and what he needs to be doing. You're probably right about his conditioning and that's a result of not getting minutes with the Canucks, It will be another bonus for him to play his way into game shape, as well as getting proper personalized coaching that WD and crew either isn't willing or capable of providing. He didn't get any points tonight but Valk had 3 so Jake must have been doing something right. It is the right move sending him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 minute ago, appleboy said: He didn't get any points tonight but Valk had 3 so Jake must have been doing something right. It is the right move sending him down. You are 200% correct. Jake's presence creates space. Plus his speed forces the d to back off the blue line. Valk gets a lot more room because of JV. There are some posters here who clearly never played with an elite skating power forward, so they have no clue that type of player's contributions. That's okay though. Alf still loves them, even though they really don't know the game as well as they think they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 He'll be fine, this is the best thing for him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The 5th Line said: Send me the hockeyDB of this "elite skating powerforward" that you played with. What level of hockey did you play? I never said I played hockey. I stated here before, I played elite dodge-ball: grade 9 mixed intermurral champions 2 years in a row. (I got held back, so I could lead a second team to the big prize) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Aren't you like a hundred years old? Players used to smoke and drink beer in the locker room in your era. There was no such thing as a power forward back then, they just called them big guys. Edited November 19, 2016 by canuckledraggin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Virtanen with a point tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Odd. said: Virtanen with a point tonight. So that brings Virtanen's AHL carrer total to 2 assists 0 goals and 2 points in 16 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, baumerman77 said: So that brings Virtanen's AHL carrer total to 2 assists 0 goals and 2 points in 16 games. In 6 career AHL games he has 1 point. In 10 AHL playoff games he has 1 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 39 minutes ago, Odd. said: In 6 career AHL games he has 1 point. In 10 AHL playoff games he has 1 point. Yup. Disappointing to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 9 hours ago, baumerman77 said: Yup. Disappointing to say the least. Yup! Write the kid off. How about we wait and review this in January? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 48 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Yup! Write the kid off. How about we wait and review this in January? I'm not writing him off. Rather I am disappointed by his post draft development thus far; especially compared to others in his cohort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, baumerman77 said: I'm not writing him off. Rather I am disappointed by his post draft development thus far; especially compared to others in his cohort. Can't argue with that. I have watched all three of his recent AHL games, and he's looked good. Not great, but good. He's using his speed and size in all three zones, and is holding on to the puck to make plays. I hope JB just leaves Jake down for this season. Do you think JB brings JV back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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