GritGrinder Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 2:14 PM, GritGrinder said: Boeser is off to almost as good a start this year as he was last year. Its his finish last season that he has to avoid this season. First 19 games 2019-20 8g 11a 19pts +2 2020-21 11g 7a 18pts -3 Final 38 games 2019-20 8g 18a 26pts +2 The Canucks have 37 games left. If Boeser scores 8 goals and 18a the rest of the way and finishes with 19g 25a 44pts in 56 games is that considered a successful season? Just looking at some more stats and even though the "eye test" shows that Boeser is having a much better season than last season the #'s don't really support it. 21 games 2019-20 9g 11a 20pts +3 2020-21 12g 9a 21pts -1 2019-20 CF 53.2% FF 54.3% PDO 100.5 Ozone starts 56.2% Dzone starts 43.8 (57 games) 2020-21 CF 51.5% FF 51.7% PDO 99.3 Ozone starts 70.6% Dzone starts 29.4 (21games) He's getting almost 15% more Ozone starts so far this season yet his Corsi, Fenwick and PDO have all gone down. Getting 15% more ozone starts probably should have translated to more than 3 extra goals, 1 extra point and -4 +/-. If he can stay healthy and Green keeps deploying him and the current 70/30 split he should be able to get to 30 goals in 56 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Nice piece in "Van is Awesome" on the "Pretty Boys" line of Brock, Petey and Hogz, with this tribute to the Flow .... https://t.co/T3dzQBYqYD Here's the full article: https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/hoglander-pettersson-boeser-prettiest-line-in-the-nhl-canucks-3459889 Edited February 26, 2021 by Googlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Tell me what you think I saved the exact point of the video. Guy in the costume lol. He looks SO much like Brock does he not? This vids from 2012. not sure it could be him but LOOKS SO SIMILAR! Don't ask why I'm listening to Taylor Swift 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Tell me what you think I saved the exact point of the video. Guy in the costume lol. He looks SO much like Brock does he not? This vids from 2012. not sure it could be him but LOOKS SO SIMILAR! Don't ask why I'm listening to Taylor Swift I can see the resemblance, but it's probably helped by the fact that glasses hide his eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 The Lotto Line got back together and Boeser's empty net apple slides him into 45th in all-time Canuck scoring. 44. Bobby Lalonde C 353 72 117 189 45. Brock Boeser RW 222 87 97 184 46. Ivan Boldirev C 216 80 104 184 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Boeser's big night boosts him into 44th in all-time Canuck scoring 43. Gerry O'Flaherty LW 435 98 95 193 44. Brock Boeser RW 225 88 101 189 45. Bobby Lalonde C 353 72 117 189 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 With Pettersson out, and being on a completely new line with Bo and Hogz...I would like to see Boeser take over a game on his own. Starting to see him drive play on his own more often this season, wanna see him do it now with no Pettersson. I think he needs that confidence that he can do it without Petey, just like he did in his rookie season. I believe in his game as he has certainly turned it around and is showing to be a complete player. Seemed to be dragging his feet a bit this past game, but I've liked his compete level in the last 6-7 games. I still think he has another level to his play that he hasn't quite shown yet. I fully believe he still has it in him to be a dominant player on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: With Pettersson out, and being on a completely new line with Bo and Hogz...I would like to see Boeser take over a game on his own. Starting to see him drive play on his own more often this season, wanna see him do it now with no Pettersson. I think he needs that confidence that he can do it without Petey, just like he did in his rookie season. I believe in his game as he has certainly turned it around and is showing to be a complete player. Seemed to be dragging his feet a bit this past game, but I've liked his compete level in the last 6-7 games. I still think he has another level to his play that he hasn't quite shown yet. I fully believe he still has it in him to be a dominant player on his own. Yeah Boeser away from Petey/Miller can drive play more and Hogger is a good #2 offensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Boeser's assist on Hoglander's late goal moves him into 43rd in all-time Canuck scoring. 42. Harold Snepsts D 781 35 160 195 43. Brock Boeser RW 234 91 103 194 44. Gerry O'Flaherty LW 435 98 95 193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/20/2021 at 1:23 AM, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: With Pettersson out, and being on a completely new line with Bo and Hogz...I would like to see Boeser take over a game on his own. Starting to see him drive play on his own more often this season, wanna see him do it now with no Pettersson. I think he needs that confidence that he can do it without Petey, just like he did in his rookie season. I believe in his game as he has certainly turned it around and is showing to be a complete player. Seemed to be dragging his feet a bit this past game, but I've liked his compete level in the last 6-7 games. I still think he has another level to his play that he hasn't quite shown yet. I fully believe he still has it in him to be a dominant player on his own. Boeser + Pettersson reminds me of Daniel + Henrik. The chemistry can be unreal at time. Yet, I definitely remember when during their prime, Henrik played without Daniel (injured) and he took his game to the next level since he also has to be the shooter as well as the passer. When Daniel had his Art Ross season, he was starting to drive the play more rather than just waiting for Henrik to make his move. While I dislike Elias being out due to injuries, this almost seems like it is allowing Brock to spread his wings more. I hope that going forward they will just have Brock with Horvat instead of with Pettersson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 A blast from the (recent) past. Can hardly wait until the boys are all healthy again and COVID becomes the blast from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I wonder what his trade value is... I really dont like his 7.5M to retain his rights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: I wonder what his trade value is... I really dont like his 7.5M to retain his rights... He’s as close to a perennial 30-goal sniper as you’re gonna get, and his next contract will involve UFA years. That’s almost certainly going to cost at least $7.5M per, regardless of the qualifier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, DontMessMe said: I wonder what his trade value is... I really dont like his 7.5M to retain his rights... It's risky, but we might just not qualify him and hope he signs with us as a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, -AJ- said: It's risky, but we might just not qualify him and hope he signs with us as a UFA. Thats super risky! I rather just outright trade him for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, DontMessMe said: Thats super risky! I rather just outright trade him for something. Another option may just be another short deal so we don't worry about being burned. Also, He's starting to border on being worth that money on a long-term deal anyway. Looks to be at about a 30-35 goal pace and around a 70-point pace this year. I'd say that earns probably $7M a year at least anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, -AJ- said: Another option may just be another short deal so we don't worry about being burned. Also, He's starting to border on being worth that money on a long-term deal anyway. Looks to be at about a 30-35 goal pace and around a 70-point pace this year. I'd say that earns probably $7M a year at least anyway. I think he needs to be qualified for at least 7.5M. Not sure when he hits UFA though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: I think he needs to be qualified for at least 7.5M. Not sure when he hits UFA though At worst, we only need to qualify him for that for one year. And he's likely going to be worth that much anyway. This is such a none issue to worry about... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: I think he needs to be qualified for at least 7.5M. Not sure when he hits UFA though If we choose to qualify him, it has to be $7.5M, yes. We could still sign a different deal once qualifying him, I believe, just as is done with a lot of qualified RFAs, if they deny the qualifying offer I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 As much as I like Brock, 7.5 mil for a complementary piece is expensive. And its only his QO, he could very well ask for more upwards of 8+ mil. if Taylor Hall pretty much a complementary offensive player can command 8 mil, Brock's pedigree for goals could likely match that amount and exceed it. I'm not as strong as I was in the stance of trading him last year now that he has improved his two way game, I don't think this team has enough depth yet to deal Brock, but I would explore that option to see what he is worth. However there is something to be said in retaining your own players and how flip flopping too many pieces will create discontent. We already saw how much losing Tanev and Markstrom affected the room, losing a core piece like Brock would severely hurt team chemistry too. Hindsight, the the negotations that took place by Benning and his management group probably didn't do a great job on that final year, but things coul dbe worse like San Jose who have to QO Timo Meier at 10 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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