Pears Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Am I the only one worried about Benning not possibly jumping all over this? I mean Stammer would cost a ton but he'd easily be Henrik's replacement, and give us a legitimate shot at contending in 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Yeah, we know: [Discussion] From Sportsnet Article - Value for Stamkos from CalgaryPure speculation since it's one thing to phone asking how it's going and another to make a serious pitch that Yzerman would actually listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Am I the only one worried about Benning not possibly jumping all over this? I mean Stammer would cost a ton but he'd easily be Henrik's replacement, and give us a legitimate shot at contending in 2-3 years. So, what, we just force retire Hank and Dank? Or do you think that's any kind of return Tampa would actually want in a trade? How else would we fit him in while not decimating our other top players (think Horvat, Virtanen, McCann and Hutton, and I'm sure they'd like Edler). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not a not a chance. Stamkos will stay with Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hamilton, Giordano, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd might get it done. Doubt something that crazy would go down though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Leafs are gonna dish out max contract to Stammer (7years, 11+million[with bonuses]). Yzerman can decide to not match and take his 3 first round picks, or make some cap room and match it.? Stamkos is a UFA at the end of the year! He can go wherever he wants. Yzerman and the Bolts will get nothing more than cap relief as compensation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrious1 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If Tampa doesn't re-sign Stamkos (odds are they will) then that would be the biggest debaucle by a GM since Burke orchestrated the first Kessel deal and set the Leafs back 4-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 lmao.Sure. Monahan and a 2 1st maybe. And Stamkos may not even re-sign with the Flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Am I the only one worried about Benning not possibly jumping all over this? I mean Stammer would cost a ton but he'd easily be Henrik's replacement, and give us a legitimate shot at contending in 2-3 years. I am pretty sure most of CDC has thought about it lol. I highly doubt the Canucks have the assets to move for Stamkos based off of what their plan is it would make zero sense.And Calgary will need to add much more quality and stop talking about " Wideman, Hudler " as options in a trade lol.Stamkos will re-sign with the Lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Calgary can throw them a Gaudreau and or a Bennett and prospects/picks. Hell they can also lob in a Giordano if they want while Yzerman risks little. Stammer doesn't re-sign Yzerman makes a fortune in return for him. Stammer does re-sign Yzerman has a top 5 player in this league Calgary or Toronto can also simply throw money at him right now with their available space. We cannot. Sorry, there might...MIGHT be a deal between the bolts and flames, but we're not even in the same arena if teams seriously want to make a play at Stamkos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 can you imagine how much cap space those two would fill up though? And you still don't have any defense or goalies.it's the Oilers. They don't need defense or goalies! Just more offense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Toronto will never trade Reilly. I remember at the 2012 draft, Burke said he would have taken him first overall if the Leafs had gotten it. He's not there anymore, but I think that mentality has stayed. Kid is 21 plays like he's 27.Not for 10 1st round picks.... something else I remember Burke saying.... about Luke Schenn.Silly discussion in any event.If Stamkos was dealt to the Leafs, he wouldn't walk on July 1st.... he'd run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why would Tampa accept a deal around "18 year old"? They're in the midst of contending. That's a retool deal. Bennett is not ready to help them contend.Imo Calgary would have to give up a player that is already productive - Monahan or Gaudreau, a prospect like Poirier, and a 1st.This sounds more like motivation for Stamkos to re-sign than an imminent possibility. 'You're going to Calgary' might be enough to get Stamkos to recommit.If I'm Calgary, I probably don't give up those kind of pieces and take that risk.. They're still not a very good puck possession team - imo they have a bit more work to do before making this kind of move. If they were closer to contending, maybe. Dougie Hamiliton isn't quite as refined as they may have hoped - he's stumbled, and in the absence of Brodie, they've been somewhat exposed. I liked the addition of Frolik and think their bottom 6 can be difficult to play against, but otherwise, they're still a work in progress and I don't see the timing as making a whole lot of sense - unless they were to pull it off for primarily futures (Bennett++) and I just don't think that's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 ? Stamkos is a UFA at the end of the year! He can go wherever he wants. Yzerman and the Bolts will get nothing more than cap relief as compensation...read my next post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Stamkos is a UFA at the end of the year and I read somewhere that he has a No Trade ClauseI highly doubt he would waive to go to Alberta.but... Id love to see FLames trade one chinup Bennett plus more for a 2015-2016 rental that will end up signing somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Am I the only one worried about Benning not possibly jumping all over this?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Why would Tampa accept a deal around "18 year old"? They're in the midst of contending. That's a retool deal. Bennett is not ready to help them contend.Imo Calgary would have to give up a player that is already productive - Monahan or Gaudreau, a prospect like Poirier, and a 1st.This sounds more like motivation for Stamkos to re-sign than an imminent possibility. 'You're going to Calgary' might be enough to get Stamkos to recommit.If I'm Calgary, I probably don't give up those kind of pieces and take that risk.. They're still not a very good puck possession team - imo they have a bit more work to do before making this kind of move. If they were closer to contending, maybe. Dougie Hamiliton isn't quite as refined as they may have hoped - he's stumbled, and in the absence of Brodie, they've been somewhat exposed. I liked the addition of Frolik and think their bottom 6 can be difficult to play against, but otherwise, they're still a work in progress and I don't see the timing as making a whole lot of sense - unless they were to pull it off for primarily futures (Bennett++) and I just don't think that's going to happen.Very good summary.In proposals Weber (in Nashville) was suggested as a straight up trade lure for Stamkos. I made the comment that Johnson / Filppula / Kilorn / Boyle / Namestinikov, while promising, did not look like a line up down the middle that could bring them back to the finals. Nor would 19 year old Bennett; I agree again. Monahan, IMO, would have to be included. And then I cant see how adding enough stuff around Monahan does not strip Calgary to the point it defeats the purpose.read my next postCorrection noted; sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 stampkos is not going to flames, tampa will resign him or he will be traded to leafs. Id say hes a leaf 80-90 percent chance by the deadline stevie y will want a bucketload of assets try van reimsdyk one of ( nylander, kapanen) 2 firsts and leafs will pay gladly Watch tampa win like 5 cups in a row if they got a package like that. Its the modern day lindros avs flyers trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 BS story plant so people stop talking about how lousy there are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 While I can see the Flames making a move, I doubt Yzerman losses Stamkos. It's true that Stammer might not want to play in Tampa, but I still think there's a strong chance he re-signs with Yzerman at the helm.Saying that, if Yzerman was to move him, a Monahan package would be pretty tempting. Monahan had 31 goals himself last year and only 10 points fewer than Stammer and can handle the C role. Mohanan + another good player + a 1st would be a pretty competitive package IMO.Stammer would also be the ultimate key to Hartley's coaching success. In Col he had Sakic scoring 54 goals, in Atlanta he relied heavily on Kovalchuk to come back and win games. He needs that one sniper who can control the speed of the game, and his kind of reckless-high-intensity-offense-first system works much better. I really really doubt Stammer gets moved, but if he does, a Monahan package will be one of the most competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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