ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, aGENT said: I may have exaggerated slightly but there's this: And this: ...just on the last page. Ah I see. Av's fans are as bad as us when it comes to overvaluing their players. Sakic might be proven himself to be the worst at that. I'm not against possibility of trading Juolevi, it just would have to be the right package that would make sense to us in our rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, aGENT said: I may have exaggerated slightly but there's this: And this: ...just on the last page. Ah I see. Av's fans are as bad as us when it comes to overvaluing their players. Sakic might be proven himself to be the worst at that. I'm not against possibility of trading Juolevi, it just would have to be the right package that would make sense to us in our rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ah I see. Av's fans are as bad as us when it comes to overvaluing their players. Sakic might be proven himself to be the worst at that. I'm not against possibility of trading Juolevi, it just would have to be the right package that would make sense to us in our rebuild. The dreaded triple post. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Edited October 24, 2017 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ah I see. Av's fans are as bad as us when it comes to overvaluing their players. Sakic might be proven himself to be the worst at that. I'm not against possibility of trading Juolevi, it just would have to be the right package that would make sense to us in our rebuild. The dreaded triple post. Edited October 24, 2017 by Bigturk8 Double Post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Ward Posted October 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 minute ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: I think folks need to settle down a bit on Olli. He is getting settled. He may not be a #1 defenseman, but he still has a great chance. He is not 20 until May or something. Let him have a year playing with men. If he turns out to be our awesome #2 for the next 12 years, then it is a great pick. Remember, in his draft year he won everything, he was unstoppable. He was considered by most the best defenseman available. Sergachev may be better in the short term, but we'll see in the long term. I still like the pick. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2017 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Ah I see. Av's fans are as bad as us when it comes to overvaluing their players. Sakic might be proven himself to be the worst at that. I'm not against possibility of trading Juolevi, it just would have to be the right package that would make sense to us in our rebuild. I wouldn't say this fanbase overvalues its players, I'd say its just incredibly bipolar. After a good game everyone says we should hold on to Juolevi for dear life because he's clearly the next Lidstrom. After a bad game we should trade him for a conditional 7th while he still can. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Bitter Melon said: I wouldn't say this fanbase overvalues its players, I'd say its just incredibly bipolar. After a good game everyone says we should hold on to Juolevi for dear life because he's clearly the next Lidstrom. After a bad game we should trade him for a conditional 7th while he still can. I suspect that this is probably true of most (all?) fan bases. Folks should go look at the Toronto fan posts after their loss to Ottawa. Upper management was dumb, their coach was out-coached, all of their team played poorly and are over valued, etc. I had to check to make sure I was reading about the Leafs rather than the Canucks. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just now, Gollumpus said: I suspect that this is probably true of most (all?) fan bases. Folks should go look at the Toronto fan posts after their loss to Ottawa. Upper management was dumb, their coach was out-coached, all of their team played poorly and are over valued, etc. I had to check to make sure I was reading about the Leafs rather than the Canucks. regards, G. This is true. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only thing different about Vancouver is how self-loathing the fans are. Most fanbases seem to think they are the greatest fanbase on Earth. The people on CDC at least make it sound like we don't even deserve a team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Usually when I talk down a prospect they seem to make me eat crow pretty quickly. Maybe I should do it more often. First time this season he's looked like the player we drafted imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Erik Karlsson said: Usually when I talk down a prospect they seem to make me eat crow pretty quickly. Maybe I should do it more often. First time this season he's looked like the player we drafted imo. Do you think a blanket statement would work? Could be an efficient way to get the best prospect pool in the league through one sentence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: That's great glad to see him get on the score sheet. Hopefully it's just the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goal:thecup Posted October 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Bitter Melon said: I wouldn't say this fanbase overvalues its players, I'd say its just incredibly bipolar. After a good game everyone says we should hold on to Juolevi for dear life because he's clearly the next Lidstrom. After a bad game we should trade him for a conditional 7th while he still can. I think you have drawn incorrect conclusions because you generalize a large group of diverse fans to be characterized by a few outspoken individuals. The fanbase is not "incredibly bipolar", imo; some are loud "Chicken Littles" and some are loud homers, and the rest are the huge majority that fall between these extremes. Both tend to be quieter when it becomes more difficult to maintain their positions, each in their turn. I do not believe that it is individual fans changing their minds about everything Canuck every time circumstances change. The same goes for accusing the fanbase of being "bandwagoneers"; I for example, have not ever jumped off the bandwagon and there are many more like me than the media leads us to believe. We are Canucks fans and we are great fans. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 9 hours ago, Goal:thecup said: I think you have drawn incorrect conclusions because you generalize a large group of diverse fans to be characterized by a few outspoken individuals. The fanbase is not "incredibly bipolar", imo; some are loud "Chicken Littles" and some are loud homers, and the rest are the huge majority that fall between these extremes. Both tend to be quieter when it becomes more difficult to maintain their positions, each in their turn. I do not believe that it is individual fans changing their minds about everything Canuck every time circumstances change. The same goes for accusing the fanbase of being "bandwagoneers"; I for example, have not ever jumped off the bandwagon and there are many more like me than the media leads us to believe. We are Canucks fans and we are great fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted October 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2017 Like with Virtanen, a little patience and everything will be OK. Nothing bipolar here - been stressing this for entire time posting about these prospects. Let them develop at their individual development pace and you will get a better player in the end. I like OJ as a pick and I think the Canuck fans will like this pick a LOT in coming years. Patience. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: Like with Virtanen, a little patience and everything will be OK. Nothing bipolar here - been stressing this for entire time posting about these prospects. Let them develop at their individual development pace and you will get a better player in the end. I like OJ as a pick and I think the Canuck fans will like this pick a LOT in coming years. Patience. To many fans get excited when players do not evolve as they expect. It is all about getting games in and adjusting to the NHL game. Some will do so but other s, for whatever reason, will not. For me it is all about the timeline and where the Canucks will be in 4 years. I can get excited watching a Virtanen or a Hutton working on their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I think at worst he'll be a serviceable top 4 D, he's still young and a lot of D take longer to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 4 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: Like with Virtanen, a little patience and everything will be OK. Nothing bipolar here - been stressing this for entire time posting about these prospects. Let them develop at their individual development pace and you will get a better player in the end. I like OJ as a pick and I think the Canuck fans will like this pick a LOT in coming years. Patience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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