Jameson Bennington the Third on TSN 1040 Feb. 16th

[ice orca]

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

This year maybe.

 

Next year: Stetcher, Gudbranson, Tryamkin, Biega, McEneny, Subban etc, etc with UFA's and trades available to add #7/8 etc guys. It's not a problem.

 

Offense from the back end is a reason to not move Tanev....? 

Take out are best shutdown guy and they might spend a hell of a lot more time in the d-zone. Like it or not Tanev does pass the puck up ice better than most of them. But lets get rid of him, according to you not a problem. Have fun with some guys you mention with not a single NHL game under their collective belt.

[aGENT]

1 hour ago, ice orca said:

Take out are best shutdown guy and they might spend a hell of a lot more time in the d-zone. Like it or not Tanev does pass the puck up ice better than most of them. But lets get rid of him, according to you not a problem. Have fun with some guys you mention with not a single NHL game under their collective belt.

Yeah those guys without nhl games would be like our 9+ D's. So yeah...

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

Here are what the players are saying..

 

[TNucks1]

34 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

Here are what the players are saying..

 

i wouldnt mind signing miller for 1 more year with a lower cap hit

[PhillipBlunt]

1 hour ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

Here are what the players are saying..

 

It looks like all three have been approached already, which is a good thing. Benning will do good by them all, but will assuredly get a good return for all. 

[Sean Monahan]

1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said:

It looks like all three have been approached already, which is a good thing. Benning will do good by them all, but will assuredly get a good return for all. 

If not approached they've certainly considered the possibilities. Either way it should help expedite the process should management decide to go that route.

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

3 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

Here are what the players are saying..

 

Here's the actual article where these quotes came from...

 

Ben Kuzma: Never easy to say goodbye as NHL trade deadline closes in!

 

The forgotten side of the National Hockey League trade deadline — the effects of leaving a young family and old friendships for nearly four months to pursue a championship — is often reduced to sidebar material.

The main story will always be asset management and the logic of long-term franchise vision versus the short-sightedness of chasing an elusive wild-card playoff position.

The Vancouver Canucks have three marketable assets in advance of the March 1 deadline in unrestricted free agents Alex Burrows, 35, and Ryan Miller, 36, and the versatile and coveted Jannik Hansen, 30, who’s under contract for another season.

With so many teams still in the playoff pursuit, the wait-and-see strategy is overshadowing the let’s-make-a-move mission. Burrows and Hansen have created a deadline buzz, while management keeps referencing the end of the season to address Miller because they need him for those “meaningful games in March.”

“I don’t know if (game) results have a big impact because there are so many variables that go into this,” Canucks president of hockey operations Trevor Linden said of the lead-up to March 1. “There has to be interest and the right fit, and people just assume with 29 others teams there has to be a fit.

“There are complications with players having control over the process (no-trade clauses) and the biggest thing is going to be not breaking our plan. We’re going to continue to add players and get younger and develop the players we have.

“The (NTC) situation is a bit fluid. We’re monitoring where we are in that process, and we’ll see where we are and we’ll know a lot more after the weekend.”

That’s the diplomatic response you expect, but general manager Jim Benning will talk to players about possibly waiving no-trade clauses during the club’s mandated five-day break that starts Monday.

There are also family considerations to be weighed against possibly chasing a Stanley Cup ring. Burrows has a no-trade clause and Hansen a modified no-trade, which means he must submit a list of eight preferable trade destinations.

 

Burrows learned during an early November six-game eastern road trip how hard the tug is from the home front, especially from his children Victoria, 5, Lexie, 3, and Jacob, 1.

“We went away for 10 days and they had a tough time with it, especially the kids missing dad,” recalled Burrows. “You have to sit down with your family and agent and see what your (trade) options could be, if there’s a chance to win the Stanley Cup.

“Deep down in my heart I would love to be heading into the playoffs with this (Canucks) team. My first goal was to play in the NHL, my second was to stay as long as I could (890 career regular-season and playoff games) and the third was to win a Stanley Cup.

“The third has been harder than I wanted, but it’s still there and there’s still a chance.”

Burrows is free of hip ailments that bothered the winger the past two seasons and his playoff pedigree and agitating presence should pique interest at the deadline.

Defence wins championships and Burrows is a persistent checker and penalty kill specialist. His recent spurt of four points in two games doesn’t hurt.

More important, the Canucks can’t afford to lose another asset for nothing if Burrows remains and is then cut loose as an unrestricted free agent on July 1. They initially stated they wouldn’t approach UFAs to waive NTCs, but you knew that conversation had to change at this stage of the season. After all, it’s a business, not a popularity contest.

Hansen has made his case clear.

He wants to stay, he has twin three-year-old boys in Lucas and Daniel, but he’s the most marketable of the trio.

 

The speedy winger would help any contender with his versatility, puck recovery and defensive awareness. And if a club sees him as more than a one-year fit — he has another season at a palatable $2.5 million US salary cap hit and $3 million in actual salary — he’s going to command considerable interest.

“I want to play here,” Hansen stressed. “I love being around the guys, I love the city and I want to win here. And I’ve been here for a very long time.”

Remaining in Vancouver also means Hansen could be exposed in the expansion draft, with the Canucks expected to protect Markus Granlund and Sven Baertschi.

It’s a different story for Miller. The Canucks need him to backstop a playoff push that’s hanging by a thread. But whether he stays, moves eventually, or re-signs, there are additional challenges away from the rink.

 

 

The starting goaltender is married to Noureen DeWulf, whose acting career is based in Los Angeles where she also raises son Bodhi, who turns two next month.

“I want my wife to be the full and complete person she can be,” said Miller. “She has become a great mother, but she also has (career) aspirations and we’ve always made things work. Hockey is a short window in your life and we always weigh different factors.”

Those include the unlikelihood of waving his NTC to be moved at the deadline — his no-trade clause allows him to submit a list of five destinations — or taking a significant pay cut on a short term to work again in tandem with Jacob Markstrom next season. That would buy prospect Thatcher Demko more development time.

Miller could also test the open market on July 1 and then possibly re-sign here. He’s a creature of habit, has embraced the city and has kept an open mind about his playing future. Again, management wants to see how the season plays out and what their options may be, because they did discuss Miller at their recent pro meetings.

Benning also believes Markstrom is ready to be a starter next season, and that will figure in what becomes of Miller and how interested he may be in that possible backup role.

“I have to talk to management at some point and see if they’re interested in something (contract extension),” added Miller, who’s on an expiring three-year, $18-million contract. They’d have to give me an indication of a guideline — or what the plan will be — and kind of go from there.”

“I don’t close anything off and I’m just trying to be focused in the moment and not dwelling on anything.”

http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/ben-kuzma-never-easy-to-say-goodbye-as-nhl-trade-deadline-closes-in?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[PistolPete13]

8 hours ago, combover said:

The score ranked all the gms aug 3. 2016

jim ranked 31. (That's the worst) 

Jim benning is either in executive prison and carrying out another's agenda or vancouver obvious lack  mindful direction is enormously misguided modus  operandi.

 

if ranked today he would still be the worst because he is the worst.

 Benning  sucks, Benning sucks, Benning sucks....... Hare Krishna Hari Rama, Krishna Krishna.....I think I'm getting the message... I' m getting sleepy....... Or I'm I just listening to a broken record here?

[Drakrami]

Bennings in Sweden scouting again? Reminds me of our 2015 first round series vs Calgary when Benning isnt even watching the playoffs and went to scouting. At first I thought ok, Benning is confident and we'll win easily. And then we went ahead to lose 2-4 to the Flames. There is a position available for Benning, it's called the head scout. 

[ice orca]

9 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

It looks like all three have been approached already, which is a good thing. Benning will do good by them all, but will assuredly get a good return for all. 

I think they have been asked by the media, probably hear it on social media as well. Not sure if Benning has formally approached them but he better if he accually is going to ask them. If they beat the Flames he might think hey we are only 3pts out and buy

[WeneedLumme]

1 hour ago, ice orca said:

I think they have been asked by the media, probably hear it on social media as well. Not sure if Benning has formally approached them but he better if he accually is going to ask them. If they beat the Flames he might think hey we are only 3pts out and buy

Yeah, JB is liable to trade away all our draft picks for aging worn out former stars, just like he always does.

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

Yeah, JB is liable to trade away all our draft picks for aging worn out former stars, just like he always does.

Sarcasm?

Guys like Sutter, Gudbranson, Granlund, Baer, Pedan, Vey, and Dorset were not stars, but they weren't washed up, were they?

[bobbyg43]

5 hours ago, Alflives said:

Sarcasm?

Guys like Sutter, Gudbranson, Granlund, Baer, Pedan, Vey, and Dorset were not stars, but they weren't washed up, were they?

His phase in NHL as GM

first arrives does trades as fast as he can (nerves an makes impression)

second : gets calm cool an collective-results ; losing out on TDL days with his cool hardline, we get nothing

third phase I believe is failed an desperation not extension of contract because his plan has failed? No one is willing to play footies with Jim on his assets .

phase 4  gone.

[GreyHatnDart]

On 2017-02-16 at 1:51 PM, combover said:

History repeats its self.......

reports no players have yet been approached to discuss waiving 

odds of 3.6 of getting into the playoffs but you better wait five more games........ 

Oh well atleast Jim benning  continually meets expectations of being incompetent and a disappointment. 

 

The Team deserves a gm that has a clue. 

 

I love comments like this. 

Goaltending stability? Check. 

Rebuilt defence current and future? Check. 

 

Benning doesn't operate in a vacuum. If other GM's don't want to grab their ankles and give us their top picks and prospects for our hockey pucks, that's our GM's fault? Mmkay. 

[N4ZZY]

16 minutes ago, bobbyg43 said:

His phase in NHL as GM

first arrives does trades as fast as he can (nerves an makes impression)

second : gets calm cool an collective-results ; losing out on TDL days with his cool hardline, we get nothing

third phase I believe is failed an desperation not extension of contract because his plan has failed? No one is willing to play footies with Jim on his assets .

phase 4  gone.

I dunno. I think Benning has done a really good job all things considered when he inherited this team. 

Gillis' drafting was very poor. He did draft some good players - Hutton, Horvat (for sure), etc. 

This team had very poor developmental plan and process, as well as drafting high end players. So, with that considered, I think Benning has done an excellent job in re-stocking a prospect board that was extremely thin and bare. We also didn't have fresh young players coming onto the roster. So, the additions of Granlund, Baer, have been good for this team. Rebuilding takes time, and I like how Benning's going about his work. Restocking the active line up with young players (turnovers), and then also restocking younger players (Boeser, Juolevi, etc) - those are the prospects we never had prior to Jim, coming up in the pipeline. For the first time in a long time, we have something to be looking forward to, and get excited about, and our team is competitive. We may not win many games, but we're competing, and we've got veterans to show the young players how to win. Edmonton's model worked, after failing for about 10 years. lmao. I don't want that. With all that being said, I want a high draft pick the next few years

 

[N4ZZY]

7 minutes ago, ThaShady1 said:

I love comments like this. 

Goaltending stability? Check. 

Rebuilt defence current and future? Check. 

 

Benning doesn't operate in a vacuum. If other GM's don't want to grab their ankles and give us their top picks and prospects for our hockey pucks, that's our GM's fault? Mmkay. 

a GM is going to want Burr and Hansen, and maybe Miller. We can get some pretty good returns on those vets. 

Hoping Burr comes back after a playoff run (maybe with a Stanley Cup ring?). And I'd love to have Hansen return the year after. 

It's business, nothing personal. I'll miss Burr and Hansen, but if this team is going to be competitive, we got to begin to get some returns for our vets who are, at this season and stage of their careers, are playing fairly well. It'll help with the rebuilding process. 

 

[stawns]

3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:

a GM is going to want Burr and Hansen, and maybe Miller. We can get some pretty good returns on those vets. 

Hoping Burr comes back after a playoff run (maybe with a Stanley Cup ring?). And I'd love to have Hansen return the year after. 

It's business, nothing personal. I'll miss Burr and Hansen, but if this team is going to be competitive, we got to begin to get some returns for our vets who are, at this season and stage of their careers, are playing fairly well. It'll help with the rebuilding process. 

 

I expect Burrows is the only player on the move, possibly tanev.  I am also fine with no moves

[N4ZZY]

2 minutes ago, stawns said:

I expect Burrows is the only player on the move, possibly tanev.  I am also fine with no moves

really? what happens to hansen, then? taken in the vegas expansion draft? 

 

i think miler, if we can get a good return for him, needs to be moved. losing a UFA for nothing (if he doesn't come back) is poor asset management. 

 

I don't mind Tanev moving as long as we can get a good young piece in return and a draft pick. 

 

[stawns]

Just now, N4ZZY said:

really? what happens to hansen, then? taken in the vegas expansion draft? 

 

i think miler, if we can get a good return for him, needs to be moved. losing a UFA for nothing (if he doesn't come back) is poor asset management. 

 

I don't mind Tanev moving as long as we can get a good young piece in return and a draft pick. 

 

no team in the playoff picture needs Miller, I don't see any market for him.  

 

if they can get a King's ransom for Hansen, they might move him, I just don't see many teams wanting to take on a player that needs protection for the price that Hansen is worth.  For all we know Benning has approached the twins and asked one, or both, to waive their NMC's for the ED so he can protect Hansen, Granny, Baer etc.  Who is going to take one Sedin at $7m?