Boudrias Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, EdgarM said: What I have seen from Gaunce, other then his lack of any kind of offense, is his lack of aggressive battle for a big man. Similar to Archibald. Those two players, if could play with more intensity and aggression, would be far more effective NHL players. This seems to be what TG is looking for this year and he is giving more ice time to those players who are exhibiting it and sitting those that don't. Virtanen is one player, that I believe , is a prime example of this and he has greatly improved his NHL game because of it. From day one Jake talked the talk about doing whatever it took for him to make it. When he was 19 you wondered if he was simply repeating what he thought people wanted to hear. 3 years later we are now realizing he was speaking from the heart. Gaunce has never got the amount of exposure that Jake has got. As fans we often forget that these players have been in hockey for +20 years already. They have a mind set towards their game that has gotten them this far. Highly likely that Green is questioning Gaunce's approach and asking that he make changes. For some that might be more than they are capable of adjusting to mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I take it Boucher wasn't playing, I never saw or heard his name mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Boudrias said: From day one Jake talked the talk about doing whatever it took for him to make it. When he was 19 you wondered if he was simply repeating what he thought people wanted to hear. 3 years later we are now realizing he was speaking from the heart. Gaunce has never got the amount of exposure that Jake has got. As fans we often forget that these players have been in hockey for +20 years already. They have a mind set towards their game that has gotten them this far. Highly likely that Green is questioning Gaunce's approach and asking that he make changes. For some that might be more than they are capable of adjusting to mentally. I remember when my kids played hockey and you could see at a very early age those who wanted to win at any cost and those who couldn't care either way if the game was won or lost. This was even more evident in tournaments. The biggest difference in the NHL is that you have highly talented players who treat their career as a job, and those who are highly skilled who want to win at all costs. I believe TG and the rest of management are trying to weed out these players and somewhere down the road we are going to have a highly skilled team who will want to win at all costs. Hopefully, this trends us more to winning in the playoffs and not just successful in the regular season as it has been for decades with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I remember when my kids played hockey and you could see at a very early age those who wanted to win at any cost and those who couldn't care either way if the game was won or lost. This was even more evident in tournaments. The biggest difference in the NHL is that you have highly talented players who treat their career as a job, and those who are highly skilled who want to win at all costs. I believe TG and the rest of management are trying to weed out these players and somewhere down the road we are going to have a highly skilled team who will want to win at all costs. Hopefully, this trends us more to winning in the playoffs and not just successful in the regular season as it has been for decades with this team. Good points. If you are old enough you might remember Cowboy Bill Plett. Drafted by Atlanta if memory serves. I always remembered a interview he gave where he said his patented move kept him in the NHL thru his career. Something to do with how he got his slap shot off. He said he practiced his 'move' all the time but didn't change his game during his career. Totally agree that Green and Benning will be weeding out those that do not have the desire. In fact Green said as much in a postgame interview a few games ago. Something to the effect that we are building a contender not just a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 What has Schaller shown that Gaunce doesn't already do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Duodenum said: What has Schaller shown that Gaunce doesn't already do better? Plays in straight lines, gets to pucks, and is harder to play against. Gaunce just needs to be quicker, and and meaner. (maybe?) that’s just not in his DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 It was only a first game - and Green clearly was easing Boucher into the lineup (at under 6 minutes) - but in those minutes (5:28) unfortunately Boucher looked like he struggled with the pace of the game (part of that may be mental, and adjustment to systems, new linemates, etc. - but his skating is a difficult limiting factor - which is unfortunate because he obviously has goal-scoring tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, Alflives said: Plays in straight lines, gets to pucks, and is harder to play against. Gaunce just needs to be quicker, and and meaner. (maybe?) that’s just not in his DNA. I don't know if we've been watching the same guy. Playing hard against is what was advertised but he's been anything but. Covering his man on the point has been extremely difficult for him given his foot speed and reads. I don't know if it's because of his offseason surgery but he's a liability currently. 3 points in 23? games and too slow on the penalty kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 18 hours ago, The Big Luongo said: Well I agree with some of things you say I'll watch closely but I'll have to say after the 1st period Boucher had a pretty bad giveaway and didn't stand out in a good way mind you nobody really did hopefully better things to come for everyone. I did notice Boucher did look noticeably faster though. If he can make use of the speed he definitely does have some real good offensive skills and we couldn't need that more right now. Boucher didn't stand out last night but it's been 1 game. Let's see what he can do now that he has his feet wet. I have faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 21 hours ago, Baggins said: Might want to use more than your head and check that. Hmmm he definitely played 4 and change in his last game so not sure why you went to personal attacks when you are incorrect. Good on ya for trying to throw insults at people for no reason though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Duodenum said: I don't know if we've been watching the same guy. Playing hard against is what was advertised but he's been anything but. Covering his man on the point has been extremely difficult for him given his foot speed and reads. I don't know if it's because of his offseason surgery but he's a liability currently. 3 points in 23? games and too slow on the penalty kill. Yeah. Doesn't Gaunce have the same amount of points in like 3 games compared to 23? Anyway, I'm biased towards Gaunce. I think he hasn't been given a fair shake this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Not expecting Boucher to be in Vancouver too long. Boeser and Beagle are not too far from returning. Boucher plus one have to leave town. Assuming no trades, I'm guessing it's between Leipsic and Biega. Biega could have gone down without being waived, but is now past his 30 day deadline. I'm a little puzzled. Thought they would return Biega before his 30 days ran out and reward Sautner or McEneny with a brief NHL paycheque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said: Hmmm he definitely played 4 and change in his last game so not sure why you went to personal attacks when you are incorrect. Good on ya for trying to throw insults at people for no reason though. I simply replied in kind.... On 11/24/2018 at 10:44 AM, Where'd Luongo? said: That's because he only played 4 minutes. Use your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baggins said: I simply replied in kind.... And he played 4 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, Where'd Luongo? said: And he played 4 minutes He's averaged over 8 per game this season and his last game would have brought that average down. Perhaps the reason he only got 4 and change his last game, and was sent back to Utica, is what I said previously. Simply not doing enough to be noticeable out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Well that call up was short lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Brock must be ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.