ABNuck Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Searched...couldn't find anything so... Western Separatism...what do we call our new country? Assuming we take everything west of the Manitoba / Ontario border...can we survive (especially with oil so low)? This is obviously a bit tongue-in-cheek but...years ago in college I suggested that the North American "founding fathers" blundered big-time to wit: Look at a map of North America (Canada / US to be specific). Erase the border at the 49th parallel and instead of it running East-West, change it to North-South. Start at Hudson's Bay (Manitoba - Ontario border already in place). Trace down the Minnesota / Dakotas border and continue southward on the East side of Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma, finishing off on the Texas / Louisiana border down to the Gulf of Mexico near Sabine Lake. We would have in the West: Alaska / Yukon / NWT (Oil, gold, diamonds, Hudson's Bay access to Atlantic) BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba (Oil, tourism, agriculture, Pacific Ocean, Pacific Rim trade) 14 of the contiguous US States...and maybe Hawaii too (or just give them back their independence) Of course we would also inherit some powder keg situations as well (Mexican border drug wars, half of the west being on fire each summer, "poorer" states such as Nebraska, Wyoming and the Dakotas (save for shale-oil...but then there's that pesky "fracing" to get that oil)...and I suppose we'd have to take Utah along with the deal...so there's that too. Anyways...so BC / Alberta, you ready to team up and take down Confederation? Treasonous thoughts...treasonous thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Before you start picking up US states, you'd have to get BC and Alberta on the same page. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Would never happen. You'd have better luck trying for Cascadia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 You would have more of a chance getting Alberta to separate and join the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 We've poisoned the pie..don't matter now how you divvy it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Trade Alberta to the USA for the pacific states + Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Nothing. No seperatism whatsoever. Infact, weaken the provinces further. Canada. I'd happily vote for a government that makes squishing nimby-istic provincialism propaganda as a matter of state policy. The end. -Signed, Canadian who's lived 95% of his Canadian existence ( of 20+years) in the west coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I think we (the western Provinces) should stay as Canada, and from Ontario east should leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 33 minutes ago, luckylager said: Would never happen. You'd have better luck trying for Cascadia. Yeah, I agree. Alberta could hook up with Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and Arizona. They could call themselves Redneckia..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, PunjabiCanucks said: Trade Alberta to the USA for the pacific states + Alaska Sounds good, but we'd probably have to throw in Raymond, Ballard and a First.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, ABNuck said: Anyways...so BC / Alberta, you ready to team up and take down Confederation? Whats in it for BC? First off, as BC I'm holding out for more than 50% of the revenue from any oil shipped off the coast, so right off the bat you're worse off. But lets say you REALLY hate Ottawa and agree to my 60/40 split in BCs favour. At todays, and the foreseeable future, pricing when its all said and done we're probably talking 1 billion per year extra to BC, which may or may not be enough to offset the risks and pay the cut the first nations and angry fishermen will demand. But lets say I'm feeling generous and I agree to take AB to the cleaners. You now have to face the reality that you just teamed up with about 2.1 million NDP+Green voters. So oil gets shut down anyway. Lets face it, you're one land-locked sh!t-outta-luck cowpoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Whats in it for BC? First off, as BC I'm holding out for more than 50% of the revenue from any oil shipped off the coast, so right off the bat you're worse off. But lets say you REALLY hate Ottawa and agree to my 60/40 split in BCs favour. At todays, and the foreseeable future, pricing when its all said and done we're probably talking 1 billion per year extra to BC, which may or may not be enough to offset the risks and pay the cut the first nations and angry fishermen will demand. But lets say I'm feeling generous and I agree to take AB to the cleaners. You now have to face the reality that you just teamed up with about 2.1 million NDP+Green voters. So oil gets shut down anyway. Lets face it, you're one land-locked sh!t-outta-luck cowpoke. Yeah... pretty much the Lesotho of Canada..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 putin approves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 this reminds me of the joke that was going around when Quebec wanted to separate; Q. What did Newfoundland say when they heard Quebec wanted to separate? A. we dont want them beside us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Riprock Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Whats in it for BC? First off, as BC I'm holding out for more than 50% of the revenue from any oil shipped off the coast, so right off the bat you're worse off. But lets say you REALLY hate Ottawa and agree to my 60/40 split in BCs favour. At todays, and the foreseeable future, pricing when its all said and done we're probably talking 1 billion per year extra to BC, which may or may not be enough to offset the risks and pay the cut the first nations and angry fishermen will demand. But lets say I'm feeling generous and I agree to take AB to the cleaners. You now have to face the reality that you just teamed up with about 2.1 million NDP+Green voters. So oil gets shut down anyway. Lets face it, you're one land-locked sh!t-outta-luck cowpoke. I agree with @canuckistani but to play along here I'd be more in favor of AB and Sask forming an alliance and forcing the City of Vancouver into a Hong Kong type scenario. Or maybe Ab and Sk could just form an alliance with the states along the Keystone pipeline route to the gulf coast. Coastal loons can be left to themselves and the migrant caravans of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: Yeah, I agree. Alberta could hook up with Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and Arizona. They could call themselves Redneckia..... Montana and Colorado aren't anywhere near as redneck as Wyoming and Idaho....and Alberta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, butters said: putin approves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Dash Riprock said: I agree with @canuckistani but to play along here I'd be more in favor of AB and Sask forming an alliance and forcing the City of Vancouver into a Hong Kong type scenario. Perfect. Vancouver is pretty much already Hong Kong already...... so that will be a simple move for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Dash Riprock said: I agree with @canuckistani but to play along here I'd be more in favor of AB and Sask forming an alliance and forcing the City of Vancouver into a Hong Kong type scenario. Or maybe Ab and Sk could just form an alliance with the states along the Keystone pipeline route to the gulf coast. Coastal loons can be left to themselves and the migrant caravans of course. yes no to separation..... but if AB and SASK did leave. Canada would be screwed.. https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/lawrence-solomon-if-alberta-turns-separatist-the-rest-of-canada-is-in-big-trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I would consider Western Separatism is it meant NO more Leaf Games on forced upon us here in BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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