Wilbur Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: This post from the Canucks Army comments section gave me a laugh: “what i dont get is the oilers WAIVED him before.If the canucks WANTED him they could have got him off WAIVERS instead of TRADING an asset for him. You can’t tell me they had to trade Gagner for him they literally could have had him a month ago off waivers” I can’t believe there’s anyone who doesn’t think that this trade is a far better deal than a waiver claim. We moved Gagner’s contract. That’s value added. And we acquired Spooner with waiver exemption (from him clearing previously). Value added again. A waiver claim would’ve meant that we’d be stuck with Spooner on the NHL roster, and would have to waive him to assign him to Utica. And we’d still be paying Gagner to play for the Marlies. Oilers could have had Gagner too when he went on waivers. Canucks Army is so worried about "value added" yet they don't see the value in someone that has cleared waivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fecklund Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: As others have stated, I'm thinking that there will be an announcement soon that Baertschi is done. Truly sad if true. Yeah, I had that feeling as soon as he went down again. That's a lot of concussions.... and he just started a family.... Life is to be considered at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrardstreetbullies Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 oilers twitterverse acting like gagner coming back is there saving grace for the season lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, hlinkas wrister said: Spooner was straight up terrible in Edmonton this year. I think I would have been happier with a pick for Gagner ... how about, Edmonton was straight up terrible this year, And Spooner is looking for a real “home”.. not an oil patch. ... maybe this becomes the next “ J Leivo story of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Meh nothing surprising. I am happy to be rid of Gagner though. No way that guy was getting any better and I couldn’t stand his lazy, entitled attitude. Good news is the Marlies lose Gagner and the Comets will likely get Spooner. So it’s a win in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: This post from the Canucks Army comments section gave me a laugh: “what i dont get is the oilers WAIVED him before.If the canucks WANTED him they could have got him off WAIVERS instead of TRADING an asset for him. You can’t tell me they had to trade Gagner for him they literally could have had him a month ago off waivers” I can’t believe there’s anyone who doesn’t think that this trade is a far better deal than a waiver claim. We moved Gagner’s contract. That’s value added. And we acquired Spooner with waiver exemption (from him clearing previously). Value added again. A waiver claim would’ve meant that we’d be stuck with Spooner on the NHL roster, and would have to waive him to assign him to Utica. And we’d still be paying Gagner to play for the Marlies. Waiver stuff doesn't matter he was guaranteed a roster spot as soon as he was traded for. What is Benning thinking? Next year's roster is almost set for forwards under multimillion dollar contracts now. Benning's past lack of deals because he didn't think the value of the return was better than nothing, (good rep, settle for nothing rather than something) with all these overpaid long term clause contract 30 yr olds who wants to trade for them when as is demonstrated here an undrafted AHL player is superior to most of those vets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, hlinkas wrister said: Spooner was straight up terrible in Edmonton this year. I think I would have been happier with a pick for Gagner I think I would have been happier if my wife allowed me to have a 3 way with her and Katy Perry but sadly that wasn't on the table either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: As others have stated, I'm thinking that there will be an announcement soon that Baertschi is done. Truly sad if true. Virtanen on IR is more likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Mac is my guess. Utica was in a groove and I think they don't want to disrupt them more than they have to. Virtanen had a MRI on Thursday but there was no further information other than he had an upper body injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, TheGuardian_ said: Waiver stuff doesn't matter he was guaranteed a roster spot as soon as he was traded for. What is Benning thinking? Next year's roster is almost set for forwards under multimillion dollar contracts now. Benning's past lack of deals because he didn't think the value of the return was better than nothing, (good rep, settle for nothing rather than something) with all these overpaid long term clause contract 30 yr olds who wants to trade for them when as is demonstrated here an undrafted AHL player is superior to most of those vets? How was he guaranteed a spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: What is Benning thinking? Next year's roster is almost set for forwards under multimillion dollar contracts now. So just how long is Spooner's contract anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigmund.Palffy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: Waiver stuff doesn't matter he was guaranteed a roster spot as soon as he was traded for. What is Benning thinking? Next year's roster is almost set for forwards under multimillion dollar contracts now. Benning's past lack of deals because he didn't think the value of the return was better than nothing, (good rep, settle for nothing rather than something) with all these overpaid long term clause contract 30 yr olds who wants to trade for them when as is demonstrated here an undrafted AHL player is superior to most of those vets? Umm Spooner is 27 and only has one year left on his 4M / year contract after this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, fecklund said: Yeah, I had that feeling as soon as he went down again. That's a lot of concussions.... and he just started a family.... Life is to be considered at this point. I hope not for his sake, but if it's true, being happy and healthy for his wife and son is the most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: This post from the Canucks Army comments section gave me a laugh: “what i dont get is the oilers WAIVED him before.If the canucks WANTED him they could have got him off WAIVERS instead of TRADING an asset for him. You can’t tell me they had to trade Gagner for him they literally could have had him a month ago off waivers” I can’t believe there’s anyone who doesn’t think that this trade is a far better deal than a waiver claim. We moved Gagner’s contract. That’s value added. And we acquired Spooner with waiver exemption (from him clearing previously). Value added again. A waiver claim would’ve meant that we’d be stuck with Spooner on the NHL roster, and would have to waive him to assign him to Utica. And we’d still be paying Gagner to play for the Marlies. Well - that is Canucksmarmy - they have a default whine mode and prioritize whinging about Benning over thinking reasonably. Thinking we "gave up an asset" here is a pretty good example of how incapable they are of assessing literally anything he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Spooner on the LW with Horvat? Last season Spooner had 41 points in 59 games, with 12 even strength goals and 22 even strength assists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, TheGuardian_ said: Waiver stuff doesn't matter he was guaranteed a roster spot as soon as he was traded for. What is Benning thinking? Next year's roster is almost set for forwards under multimillion dollar contracts now. Benning's past lack of deals because he didn't think the value of the return was better than nothing, (good rep, settle for nothing rather than something) with all these overpaid long term clause contract 30 yr olds who wants to trade for them when as is demonstrated here an undrafted AHL player is superior to most of those vets? you mean just like gagner was guaranteed a roster spot in Vancouver? Havent you learned that JB isnt afraid to move these guys. Look at what happened to DelZotto and Gagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlinkas wrister Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: But 40+ points the 3 seasons before. Likely the problem was playing on an AHL team. 11 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: The issue wasn't Spooner, but the other proper noun in your first sentence. 11 minutes ago, fecklund said: Edmonton is where good players go to die. This has been the case for almost 127 years. It seems only Drizzlittle and McDumplin are immune to this bewildering ailment. Spooner was a solid 2nd line or high 3rd line player before he got dumped there. As I said earlier, Spooner is the AHL version of Reid Boucher. In the right situation, he is a capable 40 point player. 4 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Ya, but on the other hand, they got $3.1M off the books 2 minutes ago, SilentSam said: ... how about, Edmonton was straight up terrible this year, And Spooner is looking for a real “home”.. not an oil patch. ... maybe this becomes the next “ J Leivo story of sorts. My point is, If Spooner couldn't crack the lineup in that dumpster fire I don't see him having a positive impact here and I'd rather see our young guys play. I'll be happy if he proves me wrong but this smells like Jokinen 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyking8888 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Jim Benning is knows Sam Gagner is washed up . Sam will do more harm than good in Edmonton. By making this move Benning give false hope to a desperate team . Actually creates more problems in Edmonton. While JB knows Spooner is garbage, he won't stay in the line up long. Imagine trading a garbage can with your neighbour. Your neighbour will actually put the garabage can in the living room. While you know the garbage can belongs in the garage. Very nicely done . JIM Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, coryberg said: I think I would have been happier if my wife allowed me to have a 3 way with her and Katy Perry but sadly that wasn't on the table either. What sort of sicko invites their wife to an imaginary three way???!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: Waiver stuff doesn't matter he was guaranteed a roster spot as soon as he was traded for. What is Benning thinking? Next year's roster is almost set for forwards under multimillion dollar contracts now. Benning's past lack of deals because he didn't think the value of the return was better than nothing, (good rep, settle for nothing rather than something) with all these overpaid long term clause contract 30 yr olds who wants to trade for them when as is demonstrated here an undrafted AHL player is superior to most of those vets? Typical Guardian overreaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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