Popular Post Tre Mac Posted March 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2019 The hate this guy still gets from some of you is comical, just until the playoffs. 1 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Interesting enough Gud is playing 19.5 minutes a night in Pittsburgh and is a plus 5 A higher talent base and a different defensive scheme Different defensive partner how else do you explain? Edited March 23, 2019 by janisahockeynut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Interesting enough Gud is playing 19.5 minutes a night in Pittsburgh and is a plus 5 A higher talent base and a different defensive scheme Different defensive partner how else do you explain? Player trying harder because he is on a new team headed for the playoffs. i reserve judgement until there is a big sample size. He already moved down in minutes as other guys have gotten healthy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Interesting enough Gud is playing 19.5 minutes a night in Pittsburgh and is a plus 5 A higher talent base and a different defensive scheme Different defensive partner how else do you explain? Really hope the current small sample stays true for the long term. The 'no context, ignore the variables' members of analytical heaven will have to really scramble to explain things. This might be their Waterloo ! ( fingers crossed ) 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, riprypien said: I've always liked Eriksson with Bo. That line has been looking good. I'd rather see Virtanen on that line - but regardless, they have been really good. The other night against Ottawa - an exception to the norm recently with Horvat's line handling huge amounts of hard minutes.... They got 57.1% ozone starts (Horvat - with a half dozen d-zone starts compared to his typical workload of 15-20 a night), 58.3% (Pearson) and 75% (LE - who is at 38.4% for the season).... That line broke out for 10 points and combined +7.....nice to see LE convert some. But looking forward - would love to see a Pearson Horvat Virtanen line....heavy, hard, two way line that is hard to handle and can handle pretty much any matchup.... If they have a relatively healthy bottom six in behind them - it sure bodes well for EP's line as well - if these guys are presenting another threat opponents need to matchup against, as opposed to seeing this line being the matchup line targetting the opponent's top 6 (a large part of the reason I like having the Sutter-Beagle 1-2 shutdown punch at center). Edited March 23, 2019 by oldnews 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoldyTaco Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) what i find great is gudbranson always got the worst partners to play with. and how people like bo get a pass when they play like $&!# because "oh look at his wingers" gudbrason got stuck with every new call up and the likes of pouliot. watching how much time biega gets with edler right now is laughable. it was clear gudbrason was good with edler yet they refused to use him to his strenghts. yet they will just through a "7th defensivemen " with edler now? nothing against biega i like the dude. but the canucks really have along history how poorly deploying their defensive pairings. brings back memories of keith ballard another person that wasnt nearly as bad as canucks fans made him out to be Edited March 25, 2019 by MoldyTaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, MoldyTaco said: what i find great is gudbranson always got the worst partners to play with. and how people like bo get a pass when they play like $&!# because "oh look at his wingers" gudbrason got stuck with every new call up and the likes of pouliot. watching how much time biega gets with edler right now is laughable. it was clear gudbrason was good with edler yet they refused to use him to his strenghts. yet they will just through a "7th defensivemen " with edler now? nothing against biega i like the dude. but the canucks really have along history how poorly deploying their defensive pairings. brings back memories of keith ballard another person that wasnt nearly as bad as canucks fans made him out to be 57 points this year carrying the defensive load in the absence of Sutter and for a month Beagle too, when has Bo played like s***? Edited March 25, 2019 by canuck73_3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoldyTaco Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 not played bad but not played like we need him to if he wants to be a "leader" point is canucks fans favoritism is worse then some coaches 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, MoldyTaco said: not played bad but not played like we need him to if he wants to be a "leader" point is canucks fans favoritism is worse then some coaches You spelt 'mouldy' like you spelt 'favouritism'... Do you also prefer the 4th of July over the 1st? Asking cuz' we have a Queen, and she ain't happy. #wearenotamused #whoelseremembersthe80's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: You spelt 'mouldy' like you spelt 'favouritism'... Do you also prefer the 4th of July over the 1st? Asking cuz' we have a Queen, and she ain't happy. #wearenotamused #whoelseremembersthe80's? I she aint happy, who cares? She's a miserable thing, regardless. There's no making that "happy". And I'm a citizen, not a subject. Canada would do well to learn the difference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, oldnews said: I she aint happy, who cares? She's a miserable thing, regardless. There's no making that "happy". And I'm a citizen, not a subject. Canada would do well to learn the difference. I've never met her, so I can't say whether she's miserable, or just British. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 8:05 AM, Tre Mac said: The hate this guy still gets from some of you clowns is comical, just until the playoffs. What I find comical is the relative embrace of Luke Schenn - who I like and appreciate - but let's be real - he makes Gudbranson look like the roadrunner - and brings about half the intimidation factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) On 3/23/2019 at 8:05 AM, Tre Mac said: The hate this guy still gets from some of you clowns is comical, just until the playoffs. This forum's full of people who think they know more than the GM, the coach, and everyone else on the forum. What do you expect? lol Edited March 25, 2019 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, oldnews said: What I find comical is the relative embrace of Luke Schenn - who I like and appreciate - but let's be real - he makes Gudbranson look like the roadrunner - and brings about half the intimidation factor. But wait, don't forget the 12 hits! What's also comical is that most will forget/ignore the fact that Benning got Schenn and a pick (7th) for Del Zotto who we had signed for free and wasn't playing for us by the time he was traded. But people will still remember that Del Zotto was moved for a 6th at the TDL and will likely add it to the Benning poor asset management/doesn't know how to trade/bad pro scouting list. On the flip side, Schenn is cheap, will likely clear waivers so would be a decent call up option if re-signed. If Schenn does end up being a regular player for us, then I sure hope we are bolstering our top 4 (eg signing EK) to eat up the majority of the minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 22 hours ago, MoldyTaco said: what i find great is gudbranson always got the worst partners to play with. and how people like bo get a pass when they play like $&!# because "oh look at his wingers" gudbrason got stuck with every new call up and the likes of pouliot. watching how much time biega gets with edler right now is laughable. it was clear gudbrason was good with edler yet they refused to use him to his strenghts. yet they will just through a "7th defensivemen " with edler now? nothing against biega i like the dude. but the canucks really have along history how poorly deploying their defensive pairings. brings back memories of keith ballard another person that wasnt nearly as bad as canucks fans made him out to be When you're getting paid $4 million a year, doesn't matter who his partner is, Guddy has to look at the very least decent. If anything, Guddy's partner has sometimes played better than Guddy HIMSELF when their on a pairing. When a player is getting that kind of money, $4 million means that you're a pretty decent defenceman, you don't need another dman to prop you up. As for Keith Ballard, I didn't think he was bad at all, he really got the short end of the stick with that moron AV favoring his pet Aaron Rome. He wasn't worth the 4 million, but he's an awful lot better when he played than Biega, Pouliot, Sbiza and sure as hell better than Gudbranson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoldyTaco Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 15 hours ago, filthycanuck said: When you're getting paid $4 million a year, doesn't matter who his partner is, Guddy has to look at the very least decent. If anything, Guddy's partner has sometimes played better than Guddy HIMSELF when their on a pairing. When a player is getting that kind of money, $4 million means that you're a pretty decent defenceman, you don't need another dman to prop you up. As for Keith Ballard, I didn't think he was bad at all, he really got the short end of the stick with that moron AV favoring his pet Aaron Rome. He wasn't worth the 4 million, but he's an awful lot better when he played than Biega, Pouliot, Sbiza and sure as hell better than Gudbranson but look how hes doing in Pittsburgh? he looks pretty decent and worth 4 mil id say. this is the issue with green he forces players to play to what he feels is how you are supposed to play and not playing his players to their strengths. why else would guddy go to a different team and look like a different player?. also i think you guys underestimate how being paired with $&!#ty d partner can screw your style of play up big time. guddy may not be a guy that can run his own line. but hes pretty good when partnered with someone that can.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, MoldyTaco said: but look how hes doing in Pittsburgh? he looks pretty decent and worth 4 mil id say. this is the issue with green he forces players to play to what he feels is how you are supposed to play and not playing his players to their strengths. why else would guddy go to a different team and look like a different player?. also i think you guys underestimate how being paired with $&!#ty d partner can screw your style of play up big time. guddy may not be a guy that can run his own line. but hes pretty good when partnered with someone that can.. So is almost any serviceable defenceman. Other players have excelled under the same deployment style. Regardless, it's water under the bridge. He wasn't good here and the reason is moot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Erik is playing for Pittsburgh how he was expected to play in Vancouver when we acquired him. He had three years to prove his worth and was playing at a replacement level for 4 million per year. Pearson isn't worth the money he is paid but is better than a handful of other forwards we have on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Jared McCann has been on fire in Pittsburgh with a system that fits his style of play nicely. Essentially this has been a McCann for Pearson swap with some extras. I was a big fan of Jared and was sad to see him moved because he's only 22 and now scoring at a 0.5 goals per game pace with the Penguins. The trade for Gudbranson was right at the time, and this trade for Pearson was done at the right time too, but on the whole it just would have been worthwhile developing our own first round pick and persevering with McCann and finding a D man elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Jared McCann has been on fire in Pittsburgh with a system that fits his style of play nicely. Essentially this has been a McCann for Pearson swap with some extras. I was a big fan of Jared and was sad to see him moved because he's only 22 and now scoring at a 0.5 goals per game pace with the Penguins. The trade for Gudbranson was right at the time, and this trade for Pearson was done at the right time too, but on the whole it just would have been worthwhile developing our own first round pick and persevering with McCann and finding a D man elsewhere. And the Pens will likely move McCann when he is no longer “affordable”. Just like when they moved on from Sutter and then Bonino. No real reflection (in a negative way) of the players. Just a team having to deal with cap management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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