RetroCanuck Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Article out of the Province Edmonton by David Staples. Trying to argue that Lucic is not only easily tradeable and not cost much to move, but if anything might get you something. The part below relates directly to the Canucks. "There are a few less toxic scenarios, and I expect one of them to play out. The deal could for another under-performing player like a Loui Eriksson in Vancouver, who has an equally expensive contract, but a year shorter in term. In this case, with Vancouver badly needing toughness, they might well be expected to sweeten the deal. Or it could be the Oilers eating 20 to 50 per cent Lucic’s contract, but taking back a slightly less failed and lower paid player, like Vancouver’s Brandon Sutter, 30, who has two years at $4.5 million per left on his deal and was -12 in 26 games last year." Personally I view Eriksson as a more useful player. Thats not to say I wouldn't waive him for a younger guy that deserves a spot such as Motte or MacEwen, but I definitely wouldn't give up value for Lucic. https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/prediction-edmonton-oilers-will-move-milan-lucic-without-swallowing-major-poison-pill/wcm/6f4c93b1-76ff-4cc1-9d93-0b3d1c45de9d?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0feF3cYN5QUmJzkreAXkwSdqp_QVAoXO_kpZ5kYSMbU_ytcbPSpgX22qw#Echobox=1557453373 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Yeah, anyway you slice it the Canucks lose in a 1 for 1 trade for lucic. Doesn’t matter who were sending. That final year of his contract is a dagger. Oilers would have to send something else (2nd round pick?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 A Parrot. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Does Lucic even fight anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Does Lucic even fight anymore? Just the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Now why would we want anything to do with a big goof like Lucic, and why would we want to help Edmonton in any way.They have been extremely lucky at the B.S. LOTTO DRAFT and yet they continue to crap the bed. They have two or three players making the majority of the money and the supporting cast is barely AHL caliber and almost as much hype as the Loser Leafs. My two favorite teams to see lose Oilers and Leafs,so I for one do not want to help these two teams in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 As over paid as he is, Eriksson is an excellent bottom 6 player who is good at penalty killing, forechecking and grinding in the corners. In contrast, Lucic only fights selfishly when someone hurts his feelings and takes bad retaliatory penalties, he's slower than molasses, has a higher cap hit and more term and could quite possibly be a cancer in the locker room. I know who I would rather have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If the Benn stuff is really true, thats the overpaid deal Jim should go after. Benn-Pettersson-Boeser is a legit top 10 1st line. If that did happen it may actually be worth hanging on to Loui for an extra year since the only other move would likely be for a mid-tier defence upgrade. Loui can help on the PK, and fill in on the LW while Roussel is recovering, or maybe even on Bo's RW if the spark of offence we saw at the end of last year is actually a thing. Taking on Lucic just doesn't fit the bill. Maybe pre-Holland if we could have got Chiarelli to do something dumb like give us the 8th oa, but thats not going to happen, Holland isn't going to make that his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Article out of the Province Edmonton by David Staples. Trying to argue that Lucic is not only easily tradeable and not cost much to move, but if anything might get you something. The part below relates directly to the Canucks. "There are a few less toxic scenarios, and I expect one of them to play out. The deal could for another under-performing player like a Loui Eriksson in Vancouver, who has an equally expensive contract, but a year shorter in term. In this case, with Vancouver badly needing toughness, they might well be expected to sweeten the deal. Or it could be the Oilers eating 20 to 50 per cent Lucic’s contract, but taking back a slightly less failed and lower paid player, like Vancouver’s Brandon Sutter, 30, who has two years at $4.5 million per left on his deal and was -12 in 26 games last year." Personally I view Eriksson as a more useful player. Thats not to say I wouldn't waive him for a younger guy that deserves a spot such as Motte or MacEwen, but I definitely wouldn't give up value for Lucic. https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/prediction-edmonton-oilers-will-move-milan-lucic-without-swallowing-major-poison-pill/wcm/6f4c93b1-76ff-4cc1-9d93-0b3d1c45de9d?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0feF3cYN5QUmJzkreAXkwSdqp_QVAoXO_kpZ5kYSMbU_ytcbPSpgX22qw#Echobox=1557453373 I thought the article was pretty fair to be honest. I was expecting the writer to get Eriksson for 50 percent of the cap hit, yet expect us to take Lucic for full value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Hometown bias? Hmmmm, luckily we have none of that here in Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 What we need is toughness that can play at the pace of the game. We had toughness that couldn't and somehow traded him for something useful. I just don't see how Lucic provides toughness in coach Green's system, he would always be behind the play. I really don't think it is worth having a player that can only provide toughness after the whistle is blown because he is catching up to the play. Certainly not for what he makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Does Lucic even fight anymore? Yep. Wrecked a couple guys this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Haha yeah and maybe the Laffs will do Tanev for Reilly, send them back to their hometowns. Also it’s funny hearing Edmonton talk about how we’re in dire need of ‘toughness’. This management group has gone out of its way multiple times to get ‘tougher’ and look how that’s turned out. Plus having the mighty truculent beast of Lucic somehow hasn’t helped Edmonton. Basically this writer is a joke. Eriksson for Lucic 1 for 1 is a nonstarter, us adding to acquire him is lunacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Lucic would be one of the most skilled Canucks and is nowhere near as slow as posters are suggesting. Beggars shouldn’t be choosers, in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Fateless said: Just the puck. Post of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Bitter Melon said: Haha yeah and maybe the Laffs will do Tanev for Reilly, send them back to their hometowns. Also it’s funny hearing Edmonton talk about how we’re in dire need of ‘toughness’. This management group has gone out of its way multiple times to get ‘tougher’ and look how that’s turned out. Plus having the mighty truculent beast of Lucic somehow hasn’t helped Edmonton. Basically this writer is a joke. Eriksson for Lucic 1 for 1 is a nonstarter, us adding to acquire him is lunacy Believe it or not, Loui is a more versatile player then Luc. Plus most of his contract dollars will have been paid out before the start of the year. He kills penalties and is very solid defensively. He just doesn't seem to be happy here. It shows in his attitude. He could be one of those players who lights it up some where else. You don't think Toronto will trade us Reilly for Tanev? Why not? LOL Tanev could bring a solid return if traded but not Reilly. Maybe a mid round first. Right handed D are hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatoes11 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Um, they are both worth jack. But knowing Benning he would find a way of overvaluing lucic and give Holland a pick. Like the kassian and a pick for Prust deal. But yeah, the author is right. We aren’t getting any sweetener in a deal like this. And definitely won’t get the freaking 8th overall if we throw in crap like Hutton and leivo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: Personally I view Eriksson as a more useful player. Thats not to say I wouldn't waive him for a younger guy that deserves a spot such as Motte or MacEwen, but I definitely wouldn't give up value for Lucic. Can't waive a player with a NMC *oops nTc now, my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSeventeen Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 The Canucks have had the cap space to take on a numerous bad contracts since Benning has taken over. But that sort of thing just isn't Benning's managing style or the Aquilini's just didn't want to pay up for it. Whatever the reason it's a real shame. For example, this team missed out on Dante Fabbro or Jacob ChyChrun when Detroit dealt away Pavel Datsyuk's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Considering how many people on this forum think we can send away our scraps for good players, it's really no different than how this forum is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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