TNucks1 4,571 Posted November 30, 2020 wtf is wrong with the KHL and media over there, are they purposely tryna drown him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNiro 34,206 Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, TNucks1 said: wtf is wrong with the KHL and media over there, are they purposely tryna drown him? Same strategy they’ve used for decades. Either sign an extension with us or we’ll derail your development. Thanks to guys like Mogilny at least Russian players don’t have to fear for their lives coming over here anymore. The sooner we get him over here and in a bottom 6 role the better. 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boudrias 6,859 Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, DeNiro said: Same strategy they’ve used for decades. Either sign an extension with us or we’ll derail your development. Thanks to guys like Mogilny at least Russian players don’t have to fear for their lives coming over here anymore. The sooner we get him over here and in a bottom 6 role the better. I would prefer he was playing in NA right now, but where? The KHL teams have to make a monetary and development decision on players who likely leave for NA. Just as we debate about giving up and coming prospects TOI versus established vets, the debate goes on. If Russia truly wanted to stop the flow of talent to NA they could easily do that by making passports disappear. Do we go back to the Mogilny days? I doubt it as such treatment would threaten more critical sectors that actually make big money for Putin. Pressure on family, playing time and exposure in key tourny's probably works for some. I guess another aspect would be the willingness for Russian vets in the NHL going back to play for Russian national teams would be impacted if harsher treatment was handed out. Just imagine if Ovy decided not to play for Team Russia. Pods might have some disappointments this season but IMO it wets his desire to come to Vancouver. I just hope that the Canucks are in regular contact. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chickenspear 1,379 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, DeNiro said: Do they retain his rights if the deal is bought out? Not sure how KHL rights work, but I wouldn't really expect him to want go back at any point if that happens, or even if SKA wants his rights after that propaganda hit piece. EDIT: did some digging, found this from the KHL cba: https://www.khl.ru/documents/KHL_legal_regulations_2020_eng.pdf?_ga=2.219185433.1241379354.1606749825-1257453532.1605401755 Article 32. Early termination of the Standard KHL Hockey Player’s Contract at the Hockey Player’s initiative 5. The Club with which the Hockey Player terminated the Contract at his own initiative, reserves its rights to such Hockey Player for the term that is equal to the period left until the date of the Contract expiry, namely: a) the Club is granted the right to execute an exchange contract with another Club in relation to any rights to the Player (subclause c, clause 8, Article 38 of the KHL Legal Regulations); b) upon the Contract expiry, the Club reserves its right to extent the sports rights in relation to the Hockey Player under 29 years by sending him a contract offer via KHL CIB Electronic Base. So it would seem that SKA would hold his rights until the end of the contract, then they would have the opportunity to offer what would equate to an NHL qualifying offer to retain his rights further (though they've already offered an extension that was rejected). Edited November 30, 2020 by Chickenspear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeneedLumme 3,743 Posted November 30, 2020 On the positive side, this crap he is getting from the Russian media is excellent preparation for the crap he will get from the Vancouver media. Should be a seamless transition. 3 3 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy McGill 39,840 Posted November 30, 2020 whats really important here is whether this is Benning or Bracketts fault. Meh, some tit Russian reporter made click-bait. Takes nothing away whatsoever from the raw tools we see in this kid. 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKNuck96 1,000 Posted November 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: whats really important here is whether this is Benning or Bracketts fault. Meh, some tit Russian reporter made click-bait. Takes nothing away whatsoever from the raw tools we see in this kid. And because some Russian reporter did it it’s clearly an inside job by an SKA hack with an anti Canuck agenda designed to destabilise podkolzin 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aGENT 33,064 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: whats really important here is whether this is Benning or Bracketts fault. Meh, some tit Russian reporter made click-bait. Takes nothing away whatsoever from the raw tools we see in this kid. It's negative. Clearly Benning did it. Something, something media is qualified. Something, something you guys are only whining because it's negative against Canucks. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chickenspear 1,379 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: It's negative. Clearly Benning did it. Something, something media is qualified. Something, something you guys are only whining because it's negative against Canucks. Yet everything else coming out of Russian media is utterly false Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aGENT 33,064 Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: Yet everything else coming out of Russian media is utterly false I see you know how to sing along! On to the chorus! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goal:thecup 1,877 Posted November 30, 2020 Latest prospect updates, from: The Hockey Writers Dot Com: Canucks Prospects Report: Truscott, Kunz, Podkolzin & More BY MATTHEW ZATOR NOVEMBER 29TH, 2020 The Vancouver Canucks finally have some prospects playing in North America as the NCAA and United States Hockey League (USHL) have both started their 2020-21 seasons. Jacob Truscott was front and center with the Michigan Wolverines this past week and Jackson Kunz is showing some intriguing potential early on with the Greenbay Gamblers as well. The high-profile prospects in Vasili Podkolzin, Nils Hoglander, and Joni Jurmo also continued their seasons overseas, as NHL hockey and even the 2021 World Junior Championships (WJC) remain in jeopardy due to rising COVID-19 cases. Here’s to hoping we get to see at least Podkolzin and Jurmo shine with their respective countries during the WJC in a few weeks’ time. With all that said, let’s dive into another edition of the Canucks prospects report here at THW! Truscott Shines With First Career NCAA Goal The Canucks drafted the smooth-skating Truscott a little over a month ago and the 18-year-old freshman defenceman is already shining at the University of Michigan. He recorded his first two points, including his first goal this past week, and is playing a regular shift on the third-pairing and has seen time on the penalty kill as well. He is averaging just under 15 minutes a night on one of the biggest powerhouses in the NCAA surrounded by first-round picks and hopefuls Owen Power, Brendan Brisson, Matty Beniers, and Kent Johnson, so he’s definitely getting a good education on and off the ice. Truscott has the makings of an NHL defenceman, with his great skating abilities, accurate shot, and pin-point passing skills, but like all young defenders, still needs to work on his defensive game. However, it is encouraging to see him carrying the play, as evidenced by his 57.3 Corsi-for percentage (CF%) in six games this season. Related: Wolverines Set To Dominate 2021 NHL Draft Going back to his strengths, Truscott has completed 81 percent of his passes and has a shot on goal in every game. A lot of his skills are not elite, but solid, that’s why he was selected all the way down in the fifth round rather than the first two. Right now he is on a two-game point streak and looks to be yet another potential late-round steal for the Canucks. Kunz off To a Hot Start in the USHL Another late-round pick for the Canucks in 2020 was winger Jackson Kunz. He wasn’t given much fanfare when he was selected in the fourth round, but if his start to the 2020-21 season with the Gamblers is any indication, he should be a player to watch moving forward. He already has three goals and five points in six games and is well on his way to a full-time role in the USHL this year. Before this season, he only saw seven games with the Gamblers as he was shuttled back and forth between the USHL and his high school team for the past two campaigns. Kunz has an impressive package of raw skills including a nose for the net and a heavy, accurate shot. Though his skating needs to be developed a bit more, as it is a definite weakness of his game right now. Unfortunately, that sort of deficiency may prevent him from making it to the NHL one day, as mobility has become one of the biggest predictors of success for prospects of his size. In 2021-22, Kunz will join the University of North Dakota where Jake Sanderson calls home, and current NHLers Brock Boeser and Troy Stecher graduated just a few seasons ago. Brad Berry, who has coached the team for the past five seasons, should provide him with some solid direction as he transitions to college hockey next season. Podkolzin World Junior Bound As expected, Podkolzin was named to Team Russia’s preliminary roster for the 2021 World Junior Championship, but the recurring theme of low ice time in the KHL has continued to dominate the headlines. Now he is out of the lineup with an “illness” that has not been confirmed or denied as being COVID-19 related. It sure has not been a good start to the 2020-21 season for the Canucks’ top prospect so far. Vasily Podkolzin of SKA St. Petersburg Vasily Podkolzin should be a player to watch at the 2021 World Junior Championship (photo courtesy SKA) Hopefully, it’s just good old fashioned paranoia, and the illness is just a common cold or flu. If all is well, Podkolzin should have a dominant performance at the WJC this year with Team Russia, as he will resume his duties as team captain and one of the top prospects in the tournament as a whole. Related: 2021 World Junior Championship Team Russia Preview Podkolzin gave us a glimpse of what he could do at the Karjala Cup with five points in three games, so if that’s any indication, we should be in for quite a show in a few weeks’ time. Barring the cancellation of the whole tournament due to the threat of COVID, that is. Jurmo Needs To Seize the Opportunity Ever since Alex Lintuniemi’s contract was terminated by JYP, Jurmo has seen an uptick in ice time. He is now averaging just over 14 minutes a night, only at even strength. Even though he’s not seeing any power play time, it’s a significant improvement from the six or seven minutes he was getting earlier in the season. Related: 2021 World Junior Championship Team Finland Preview Jurmo is now playing a regular shift on the bottom pairing, so he should start seeing more opportunities for offence. He remains stuck on zero points and a minus-8 in the plus/minus column but judging from some of his rushes in recent games, that first point should be coming very soon. Like Podkolzin, he should be an important player for his nation in the upcoming WJC, so he could use a strong performance to springboard himself to some future success once he returns to JYP. Joni Jurmo Jokerit Joni Jurmo has a golden opportunity to make an impact after Lintuniemi’s departure from JYP (Mikko Taipale/Jokerit) Jurmo was noticeable physically this past week, but not in a positive way, as he was given a major and game misconduct for head butting during his last game on Nov 27. Hopefully, that sort of questionable physicality does not seep into his game more as time moves on. It’s okay to be physical, but that type of after the whistle stuff can’t be something we see regularly when he gets to the NHL. Other News & Notes: Hoglander, Karlsson, More Here are some other news and notes as we approach the beginning of December and finally the end of the year 2020: Despite testing negative for COVID-19, Hoglander’s season with Rogle BK remains on hold for the foreseeable future. If the NHL’s 2020-21 season turns out to be a go for Jan 1, he can join his Canucks teammates in training camp once his loan expires on Dec 13. Linus Karlsson is on fire with 13 points in his past 10 games, including a four-point outing on Nov 18 and an eight-shot night on Nov 20. He continues to be one of the hottest Canucks prospects overseas right now. Nils Hoglander, Rogle BK. Nils Hoglander’s season is on hold, but the Canucks should be on the horizon very soon (photo by Andreas Ljunggren) Dmitri Zlodeyev was not named to the preliminary roster for Team Russia, despite putting up impressive numbers in the MHL and VHL so far this season. It’s unclear why he was not considered, but he remains a prospect to watch regardless. Arvid Costmar and Viktor Persson are candidates for Team Sweden’s roster, but won’t be able to showcase their skills in the normal way by playing in the “Finnkampen” which is usually held at the beginning of November. They will have to continue to impress with their club teams with the hopes of being selected for the tournament in December. 1 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred65 1,202 Posted November 30, 2020 A Russian report on Podkolzin, mixed messages. A Russian publication . who knows maybe the journalist is the equivalent to Tony Gallagher Quote However, the young Russian does not dominate even among his peers, and in the KHL does not stand out, scoring a modest 6 (2/4) points in 24 matches. In the last league season, he showed about the same score - 8 (2-6) points in 30 games, although on the ice he spent an average of two-plus minutes less. The situation improved only after the forward was called up to the youth, and he played great in the Karjala Cup. Canucks general manager Jim Benning says the forward is growing and how he's expected in Canada. From the outside, he looks like a lawyer trying to justify a high selection of players under the overall 10th number in the 2019 draft. Local media also carry out the usual propaganda work, touting the prospectus on all frets. The bar may have dropped a bit, but For Podkolzin, they still draw a place in the top six somewhere near Elias Pettersson or Bo Horvath, the young leaders of the Vancouver attack. Looks extremely utopian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy McGill 39,840 Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, UKNuck96 said: And because some Russian reporter did it it’s clearly an inside job by an SKA hack with an anti Canuck agenda designed to destabilise podkolzin 4 hours ago, aGENT said: It's negative. Clearly Benning did it. Something, something media is qualified. Something, something you guys are only whining because it's negative against Canucks. its such a weird hatchet job of an article. I honestly don't know what would motivate a guy to write something this stupid about a 19 y.o. player. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aGENT 33,064 Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: its such a weird hatchet job of an article. I honestly don't know what would motivate a guy to write something this stupid about a 19 y.o. player. KGB poking something hard in to the back of your rib cage and saying something sinister like "type like I said, little monkey". 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
204CanucksFan 85 Posted November 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, aGENT said: KGB poking something hard in to the back of your rib cage and saying something sinister like "type like I said, little monkey". Maybe they were 'Putin' the screws to him 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theo5789 11,054 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: KGB poking something hard in to the back of your rib cage and saying something sinister like "type like I said, little monkey". 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueDragon23 2,635 Posted December 1, 2020 Jeez, the way he has been treated by these yo-yos over in the media and KHL is nauseating and toxic. I hope for Podz’s sake we get him the $@*k out of there ASAP. That way he can be in a much better environment either in Utica or the NHL if he’s ready. At this point, I’d prefer it if Jim buys out his remaining KHL contract. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 17,296 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Did a little snooping on the guy behind that Podkolzin article: So, he's a "Media Officer" for the Russian Ice Hockey Federation. Hmm... Wonder where his loyalties lie? With the kid who's refusing to extend his contract in Russia? Or with SKA (AKA Putin's favourite hockey club)? Not that I'd ever accuse him of bias. Mikhail looks like quite the heartbreaker too: Sorry, I know I really shouldn't make fun of a guy's appearance, but yikes, that's a bad pic! EDIT: Can't say I'm a fan of Mikhail Zislis's journalism, but I did like his earlier work as an actor. His portrayal of Vic Mackey in The Shield was particularly memorable. He should go back to the bald look, though. Suited him better. Edited December 1, 2020 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Fred65 1,202 Posted December 1, 2020 21 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: its such a weird hatchet job of an article. I honestly don't know what would motivate a guy to write something this stupid about a 19 y.o. player. It will be a measure of the journalist as much as Podkolzin. I have to say I'm becoming a tad concerned about the lack of production by Podkolzin. I'm hoping he is a player that just sjows better with a better class of team mates. It gives you some thing to look forward to for the WJC. The Canucks have a lot of prospects in the WJC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites