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wtf is wrong with the KHL and media over there, are they purposely tryna drown him?

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7 minutes ago, TNucks1 said:

wtf is wrong with the KHL and media over there, are they purposely tryna drown him?

Same strategy they’ve used for decades.

 

Either sign an extension with us or we’ll derail your development.

 

Thanks to guys like Mogilny at least Russian players don’t have to fear for their lives coming over here anymore.

 

The sooner we get him over here and in a bottom 6 role the better.

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5 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Same strategy they’ve used for decades.

 

Either sign an extension with us or we’ll derail your development.

 

Thanks to guys like Mogilny at least Russian players don’t have to fear for their lives coming over here anymore.

 

The sooner we get him over here and in a bottom 6 role the better.

I would prefer he was playing in NA right now, but where? The KHL teams have to make a monetary and development decision on players who likely leave for NA. Just as we debate about giving up and coming prospects TOI versus established vets, the debate goes on. If Russia truly wanted to stop the flow of talent to NA they could easily do that by making passports disappear. Do we go back to the Mogilny days? I doubt it as such treatment would threaten more critical sectors that actually make big money for Putin. Pressure on family, playing time and exposure in key tourny's probably works for some. I guess another aspect would be the willingness for Russian vets in the NHL going back to play for Russian national teams would be impacted if harsher treatment was handed out. Just imagine if Ovy decided not to play for Team Russia. 

 

Pods might have some disappointments this season but IMO it wets his desire to come to Vancouver. I just hope that the Canucks are in regular contact.    

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12 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Do they retain his rights if the deal is bought out?

Not sure how KHL rights work, but I wouldn't really expect him to want go back at any point if that happens, or even if SKA wants his rights after that propaganda hit piece.

 

EDIT: did some digging, found this from the KHL cba: 

https://www.khl.ru/documents/KHL_legal_regulations_2020_eng.pdf?_ga=2.219185433.1241379354.1606749825-1257453532.1605401755

 

Article 32. Early termination of the Standard KHL Hockey Player’s Contract at the Hockey Player’s initiative

 

5. The Club with which the Hockey Player terminated the Contract at his own initiative, reserves its rights to such Hockey Player for the term that is equal to the period left until the date of the Contract expiry, namely:

a) the Club is granted the right to execute an exchange contract with another Club in relation to any rights to the Player (subclause c, clause 8, Article 38 of the KHL Legal Regulations);

b) upon the Contract expiry, the Club reserves its right to extent the sports rights in relation to the Hockey Player under 29 years by sending him a contract offer via KHL CIB Electronic Base.

 

So it would seem that SKA would hold his rights until the end of the contract, then they would have the opportunity to offer what would equate to an NHL qualifying offer to retain his rights further (though they've already offered an extension that was rejected).

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whats really important here is whether this is Benning or Bracketts fault. 

 

Meh, some tit Russian reporter made click-bait. Takes nothing away whatsoever from the raw tools we see in this kid. 

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24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

whats really important here is whether this is Benning or Bracketts fault. 

 

Meh, some tit Russian reporter made click-bait. Takes nothing away whatsoever from the raw tools we see in this kid. 

And because some Russian reporter did it it’s clearly an inside job by an SKA hack with an anti Canuck agenda designed to destabilise podkolzin:bigblush:

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

whats really important here is whether this is Benning or Bracketts fault. 

 

Meh, some tit Russian reporter made click-bait. Takes nothing away whatsoever from the raw tools we see in this kid. 

It's negative. Clearly Benning did it.

 

Something, something media is qualified. Something, something you guys are only whining because it's negative against Canucks.

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1 hour ago, aGENT said:

It's negative. Clearly Benning did it.

 

Something, something media is qualified. Something, something you guys are only whining because it's negative against Canucks.

Yet everything else coming out of Russian media is utterly false

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3 minutes ago, Chickenspear said:

Yet everything else coming out of Russian media is utterly false

I see you know how to sing along! On to the chorus! :lol:

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A Russian report on Podkolzin, mixed messages. A Russian publication . who knows maybe the journalist is the equivalent to Tony Gallagher

 

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However, the young Russian does not dominate even among his peers, and in the KHL does not stand out, scoring a modest 6 (2/4) points in 24 matches. In the last league season, he showed about the same score - 8 (2-6) points in 30 games, although on the ice he spent an average of two-plus minutes less.

The situation improved only after the forward was called up to the youth, and he played great in the Karjala Cup. Canucks general manager Jim Benning says the forward is growing and how he's expected in Canada. From the outside, he looks like a lawyer trying to justify a high selection of players under the overall 10th number in the 2019 draft.

Local media also carry out the usual propaganda work, touting the prospectus on all frets. The bar may have dropped a bit, but For Podkolzin, they still draw a place in the top six somewhere near Elias Pettersson or Bo Horvath, the young leaders of the Vancouver attack. Looks extremely utopian.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, UKNuck96 said:

And because some Russian reporter did it it’s clearly an inside job by an SKA hack with an anti Canuck agenda designed to destabilise podkolzin:bigblush:

 

4 hours ago, aGENT said:

It's negative. Clearly Benning did it.

 

Something, something media is qualified. Something, something you guys are only whining because it's negative against Canucks.

its such a weird hatchet job of an article. I honestly don't know what would motivate a guy to write something this stupid about a 19 y.o. player. 

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

 

its such a weird hatchet job of an article. I honestly don't know what would motivate a guy to write something this stupid about a 19 y.o. player. 

KGB poking something hard in to the back of your rib cage and saying something sinister like "type like I said, little monkey".

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30 minutes ago, aGENT said:

KGB poking something hard in to the back of your rib cage and saying something sinister like "type like I said, little monkey".

Maybe they were 'Putin' the screws to him

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1 hour ago, aGENT said:

KGB poking something hard in to the back of your rib cage and saying something sinister like "type like I said, little monkey".

oh my george takai GIF

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Jeez, the way he has been treated by these yo-yos over in the media and KHL is nauseating and toxic. I hope for Podz’s sake we get him the $@*k out of there ASAP. That way he can be in a much better environment either in Utica or the NHL if he’s ready. At this point, I’d prefer it if Jim buys out his remaining KHL contract. 

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Did a little snooping on the guy behind that Podkolzin article:

 

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So, he's a "Media Officer" for the Russian Ice Hockey Federation. Hmm...

 

Wonder where his loyalties lie? With the kid who's refusing to extend his contract in Russia? Or with SKA (AKA Putin's favourite hockey club)?

 

Not that I'd ever accuse him of bias. ;) 

 

Mikhail looks like quite the heartbreaker too:

 

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Sorry, I know I really shouldn't make fun of a guy's appearance, but yikes, that's a bad pic! :lol:

 

 

EDIT: Can't say I'm a fan of Mikhail Zislis's journalism, but I did like his earlier work as an actor. His portrayal of Vic Mackey in The Shield was particularly memorable. He should go back to the bald look, though. Suited him better. ;) 

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21 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

 

its such a weird hatchet job of an article. I honestly don't know what would motivate a guy to write something this stupid about a 19 y.o. player. 

It will be a measure of the journalist as much as Podkolzin. I have to say I'm becoming a tad concerned about the lack of production by Podkolzin. I'm hoping he is a player that just sjows better with a better class of team mates. It gives you some thing to look forward to for the WJC. The Canucks have a lot of prospects in the WJC

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