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55 minutes ago, Odd. said:

Myers is done. He’s getting bought out for the extra roster spot on defense.

 

They won’t be buying him out for money purposes as we only save 500k, but to simply just revamp the defense.

I don't see it, if that's the goal they could just waive him and save more 

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1 hour ago, Odd. said:

Myers is done. He’s getting bought out for the extra roster spot on defense.

 

They won’t be buying him out for money purposes as we only save 500k, but to simply just revamp the defense.

He's been terrible. But once his bonus in July is paid he can be traded for whatever. For now, he'd good for the tank. 

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7 hours ago, boziffous said:

Luckily, Myers' contract with Vancouver was for 5 years at 6 million per.

I see what you did there. :)

 

No doubt that LE was the worse contract signing. He was a decent contributor for years, and was just coming off a career (contract) year with Boston. He was reunited with the twins, with whom he had proven chemistry. Personally, I think he realized that when ink hit paper, that was his last big contract and it didn't really matter (to him) how much effort he put into the game. So he just decided to forget how to play hockey.
 

Myers, on the other hand, was brought in for his size. He's never really been better than average in any other metric other than blocking shots - which he's still good at... even if he does tend to screen the goalie some of the time. While he's hasn't been very good for a while,he hasn't been nearly as disappointing as LE because he was simply never that talented in the first place. He's still a servicible player. LE was straight-up trash.

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3 hours ago, ilduce39 said:

Imagine fans being fans on a fan site.

 

Only losers do this. 

Being a fan shouldn't mean that you are incapable of being objective or unwilling to look at evidence that doesn't support your fandom. As fans we have a lot more power than we think we do. At the end of the day the fans are the consumers, they are the ones driving the product. Without the fans the product wouldn't exist and so teams have to make moves especially if the consumer confidence drops precipitously. Now the problem also is that the organization then decides to make some short term fixes to momentarily appease the fans and that is when it is important for the fans to see through the BS and rely upon the evidence and precedence. The path that the Canucks were on when they made this signing was not going to lead to success, a lot of people knew this but decided to continue putting their faith into the organization. Its sad the number of good posters who are no longer on this forum either because they got tired of the losing, or were chased off by being called "losers". You might be glad that those "losers" are no longer here but without any dissent this place just becomes an echo chamber.

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5 hours ago, VegasCanuck said:

This signing was a little long, should have been a 4 year deal, and if the cap had continued to rise as was expected before Covid, we'd be around a 92 million cap right now and no one would care about this contract. Benning did what ALL GM's have been doing pre Covid, they were over paying a little to get the player, banking on the rising cap making the contract look good in hindsight.

 

Time to GET over it!

 

This summer, once we have paid his 5 million signing bonus, leaving 1 million on the table, he becomes a very movable contract to a team at the lower end of the cap, like Arizona who would LOVE to get to the 62 million projected cap floor while only spending 50 million since they playing at least next season in a 5,000 seat arena.

 

This contract isn't worth continuing to talk about, he will be moved this summer without retaining salary.

Covid hit a lot of teams cap hard but no one was hit worse than the Canucks.  Heck there were even teams that benefited from this by signing players in very team friendly deals.  This was simply bad cap management from Sutter, Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel and Myers. It was a ticking time bomb and Covid only made things worse but it wasn't the cause. 

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1 hour ago, Toews said:

Being a fan shouldn't mean that you are incapable of being objective or unwilling to look at evidence that doesn't support your fandom. As fans we have a lot more power than we think we do. At the end of the day the fans are the consumers, they are the ones driving the product. Without the fans the product wouldn't exist and so teams have to make moves especially if the consumer confidence drops precipitously. Now the problem also is that the organization then decides to make some short term fixes to momentarily appease the fans and that is when it is important for the fans to see through the BS and rely upon the evidence and precedence. The path that the Canucks were on when they made this signing was not going to lead to success, a lot of people knew this but decided to continue putting their faith into the organization. Its sad the number of good posters who are no longer on this forum either because they got tired of the losing, or were chased off by being called "losers". You might be glad that those "losers" are no longer here but without any dissent this place just becomes an echo chamber.

Bingo.

 

Us fans are the consumer and therefore have a voice.

 

Although I don't blame the fans for the idiotic decisions that weren't in our control, we as a whole did a major disservice to ourselves and the organization by letting the previous management team run rampant for so long.

 

For such a "toxic" fan base, there really wasn't as much pressure on management and ownership to get their crap together despite horrific, crippling move after horrific, crippling move. Instead fans ate it all up in the name of optimism, and then as you see by the responses in this thread, have become bitter at those who tried to warn them.

 

I hope the market has learned a valuable lesson from the Benning era. Your loyalty should be to the success of the team, not to your personal biases and petty ego.

 

Being a "real fan" doesn't mean blindly accepting the crap sandwiches you are being fed.

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1 hour ago, Toews said:

Being a fan shouldn't mean that you are incapable of being objective or unwilling to look at evidence that doesn't support your fandom. As fans we have a lot more power than we think we do. At the end of the day the fans are the consumers, they are the ones driving the product. Without the fans the product wouldn't exist and so teams have to make moves especially if the consumer confidence drops precipitously. Now the problem also is that the organization then decides to make some short term fixes to momentarily appease the fans and that is when it is important for the fans to see through the BS and rely upon the evidence and precedence. The path that the Canucks were on when they made this signing was not going to lead to success, a lot of people knew this but decided to continue putting their faith into the organization. Its sad the number of good posters who are no longer on this forum either because they got tired of the losing, or were chased off by being called "losers". You might be glad that those "losers" are no longer here but without any dissent this place just becomes an echo chamber.

IMHAO fans get to express their fanaticism in the way they prefer.  But the Benning era did cost the club a lot of fans. I think especially in the younger crowd, who will easily (because they’re often not so attached as the long time fans) cheer for a different team or follow a different sport. Maybe that’s why our owner was constantly pushing Benning to sacrifice the future in hopes to win now? 

Maybe old time fans mostly cheer for the logo on thx front of the jersey and not for the name on the back as much too?

Snd no true Canuck fans should be forced off our home site, regardless of how they cheer for the club. Really, we all want our club to win. Should have kept Gillis. 

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10 minutes ago, Alflives said:

IMHAO fans get to express their fanaticism in the way they prefer.  But the Benning era did cost the club a lot of fans. I think especially in the younger crowd, who will easily (because they’re often not so attached as the long time fans) cheer for a different team or follow a different sport. Maybe that’s why our owner was constantly pushing Benning to sacrifice the future in hopes to win now? 

Maybe old time fans mostly cheer for the logo on thx front of the jersey and not for the name on the back as much too?

Snd no true Canuck fans should be forced off our home site, regardless of how they cheer for the club. Really, we all want our club to win. Should have kept Gillis. 

I do miss that awkward looking creepy look he always had when talking to reporters. He certainly came across as a type of guy that got all the ladies that's for sure just by his demeanor alone.

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On 2/22/2023 at 5:51 PM, myre said:

I do miss that awkward looking creepy look he always had when talking to reporters. He certainly came across as a type of guy that got all the ladies that's for sure just by his demeanor alone.

The ladies love the creepy looks. 

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