6string Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: TO should take Tanev for Flamingo-boy and send us a pick in thanks. No Flamingos on balconies or Canuck lineups 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) My proposal: Boeser, Stetcher, Schaller for Zucker, Dumba Zucker Pettersson Miller Pearson Horvat Eriksson Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Motte Beagle Sutter Edler Dumba Hughes Tanev Fantenberg Myers Markstrom Demko Edited January 18, 2020 by kenhodgejr 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: My proposal: Boeser, Stetcher, Schaller for Zucker, Dumba Zucker Pettersson Miller Pearson Horvat Eriksson Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Motte Beagle Sutter Edler Dumba Hughes Tanev Fantenberg Myers Markstrom Demko Finally a very fair trade proposal, if Boeser is replaced by a 7th rounder. We give up Bess, and because he’s way better than the Dumbo and Sucker, we lose that trade. Edited January 18, 2020 by Alflives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: My proposal: Boeser, Stetcher, Schaller for Zucker, Dumba Zucker Pettersson Miller Pearson Horvat Eriksson Roussel Gaudette Virtanen Motte Beagle Sutter Edler Dumba Hughes Tanev Fantenberg Myers Markstrom Demko Boeser is better than Zucker and is only going to get better. He'd be the instantly most popular player in Minni. I'd rather let the team play out the season and we can sign Barrie in the off season who's going to produce at least as well as Dumba. Brock's a keeper, he's not just a good player but a great person that fits the new core so well. In two seasons those guys are going to go through brick walls for each other. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 MIN is saddled with bad contracts in Parise, Zuccarello, and Suter. One more can't hurt if they are in full rebuild mode. LE + Demko + Baertschi + 2nd for Dumba + Stalock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dszeto80 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 would a virtanen + madden or gaud + stecher + 2nd draft pick for dumba work? would hate to trade jake since it looks like he's starting to hit his stride but will he be more then just a 3rd liner for the nucks? he's young enough to be a valuable 2nd liner and still has up tapped potential and should fit in nicely with the wild rebuild. madden or gaud and stecher are also young enough to build with the wilds young core. as for dumba, yes he's having a down season but i still feel he's a poorer version of seth jones but he's 25 and still will get better as he gets older and him and hughes will be the 2 pillars for years to come. not sure if that works for cap but that's up to management to make it all work out this years d hughes tanev edler myers dumba benn or fantenberg next few years d hughes tanev dumba myers edler trym or rafferty or another d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Boeser Juolevi 2021 2nd for Zucker Dumba 2021 3rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I'd do Juolevi and Baertschi for Brodin and Foligno/Fiala. Really boost our quality depth in a heart beat. Foligno is probably just a rental but if we're top-2 in the division it might be worth a bit of a push. Sure, at the expense of Juolevi but we get Brodin back who is absolutely solid on the blueline and will be for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I'd do Juolevi and Baertschi for Brodin and Foligno/Fiala. Really boost our quality depth in a heart beat. Foligno is probably just a rental but if we're top-2 in the division it might be worth a bit of a push. Sure, at the expense of Juolevi but we get Brodin back who is absolutely solid on the blueline and will be for years to come. Foligno has 1 more year on his deal, I think we keep the cheaper younger OJ unless we get a trade offer for a similar RHD. I have always liked Fiala, but with all the F we have I just don't see us making a move unless we are unloading a couple F we are just jammed on the wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 8:32 AM, Provost said: As per TSN, the Wild are definitely in the sell mode. Dumba is specifically on the block, and we have been long linked to Zucker who is available again. Both players could fit our needs and the idea of not being pure rentals as they are both signed for beyond this year. Benning was looking for upgrade on D and a top six winger. Dumba seems like a great add as he pops basically replace Tanev beyond this season as a younger, faster, and more gritty player. What possible pieces do we have to make a deal for one or both. I would say that any of our prospects aside from Hoglander and Podkolzin could be on the list going the other way. From our roster, Sutter, Demko, and either Stecher or Tanev. We would probably need to send out Baertschi to make some money even out. A deal for Dumba could look like: Madden Sutter Demko Baertschi a pick for Dumba Stalock and whatever contracts to even it out We trade Stecher in a separate deal Toronto could probably beat that deal if they want him by offering up a serious forward. From where i sit this is first off not going to get Minny to pick up the phone.If you are dealing a top 4 D man at the TDL you are looking for prospect and picks. Baertschi, Sutter are cap dumps in our favor. I am sure they have no interest in helping us out in that way as they already have some high priced veterans that do not provide what their cap says they should. Madden and Demko might get their interest but they are not taking our trash along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: Boeser is better than Zucker and is only going to get better. He'd be the instantly most popular player in Minni. I'd rather let the team play out the season and we can sign Barrie in the off season who's going to produce at least as well as Dumba. Brock's a keeper, he's not just a good player but a great person that fits the new core so well. In two seasons those guys are going to go through brick walls for each other. Totally agree here, remember Petey was going to drive over to Minny and pick up Boes when the contract was being negotiated. They are friends and like playing together. That cannot be overlooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 hours ago, BPA said: MIN is saddled with bad contracts in Parise, Zuccarello, and Suter. One more can't hurt if they are in full rebuild mode. LE + Demko + Baertschi + 2nd for Dumba + Stalock https://www.hockeywilderness.com/2019/12/12/21010452/minnesota-wild-matt-dumba-whats-wrong-defenseman Buyer beware when it comes to Dumba. Name appeal aside, he missed 50 games last season due to a ruptured muscle and apparently he hasn't been the same player since coming back. Of course if his problems are something that can be remedied with time then yeah I would be open to moving Demko who might be the most valuable asset in this deal at this point in time (plus it's appealing to potentially shed Sven and Loui, even if it costs us the better goalie and an extra pick to net a potential project D-man). Just hope J.B. does his research before pulling the trigger since he has the same term and cap hit as Loui and he could mess up our cap situation if he has more long-term injury problems (e.g. goes on LTIR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 We have a tight 5. petey, boeser, Miller, horvat and hughes that’s the core. no touchy We don’t have a plethora of other attractive assets to go big game hunting in trade nor have the cap space. don’t get impatient with the process 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) If the Wild expect a return appropriate for a 50 point Dumba, they are dreaming. He hasn't shown well this season at all, so any acquiring GM needs to assume risk he won't fully recover from his operation. That's some risk - considering the 6m salary especially. While he is a great player historically, this question mark ought to bring his price to reasonable levels. Blockbuster, IF Dumba is expected by our doctors to heal up: Dumba, Foligno, Dubnyk For Eriksson, Demko, Beagle, Stecher, Baer, Lind, a middling prospect, 3rd and 4th round pick. Why we do this: Obvious cap dumping. Dubnyk might have a resurgence and if not he is only due one more season. Either way, should be a capable backup. We no longer have goalie issues with the ED. Foligno is a guy who would fit right into this lineup with the way he plays, and improves our shutdown and penalty killing ability, and adds even more size and tenacity. Say Dumba gets back to form: He gives us about 4-5 times the production we can expect from Stecher. We get a lot tougher on the backend too. Why Wild do this: They take on dead cap while paying Loui next to nothing if he chooses to continue his contract. First and foremost, they get their goalie of the future (I don't believe they have good prospects). Plus they get a couple prospects and a couple picks to start their rebuild. Edited January 20, 2020 by kloubek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 @kloubek J.B. for GM of the year if he could pull that one off (might need a 4th line center but still) Miller - Pete - Jake/ Brock Pearson - Bo - Leivo Roussel - Gaud - Brock/ Jake Foligno - Sutter/ Mac - Motte Edler - Dumba Hughes - Tanev Benn/ Oscar- Myers Marky Dubnyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil_314 said: @kloubek J.B. for GM of the year if he could pull that one off (might need a 4th line center but still) Miller - Pete - Jake/ Brock Pearson - Bo - Leivo Roussel - Gaud - Brock/ Jake Foligno - Sutter/ Mac - Motte Edler - Dumba Hughes - Tanev Benn/ Oscar- Myers Marky Dubnyk Lol "Oscar Myers". Seriously though... That looks like a mean lineup overall. The two lightest guys in that lineup play far bigger than their size suggests too. We could be adding Tryamkin to that mix as well, and I do believe Ferland will be in there somehow. I think that basically makes us the biggest team in the league. It has to. I pity the team(s) that would play against us in the post-season. Even as the team sits as it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Any deal involving dumba will have to have the following as part of the return. A 1st rounder and top high end prospect. a legit replacement on an expiring contract to replace dumba's minutes. And more, the salary difference incoming with dumba is 3.675mill. So again, more cost to add a cap dump to minnesota. Baertschi 3.66 + 3rd rounder or lind/madden. Just for ghits and siggles Canucks 2021 1st rounder Podkolzin Stecher Baertschi 3rd or lind/madden For dumba Hard pass Just go after Pietrangelo or Barrie in UFA and save the assets. Stlouiis cant re-sign Piet. Torontah can't afford barrie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Stlouiis cant re-sign Piet. Torontah can't afford barrie. Neither can VAN, without moving out significant cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, BigTramFan said: Neither can VAN, without moving out significant cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, GhostsOf1994 said: First of all, Pietrangelo is NOT signing for $7M, not even close. If he were, St. Louis would have already signed him - instead they acquired Faulk, and extended him for $6.5M. AP is probably going to get $10M per. Not to mention you haven’t calculated anything for rookie bonuses. Secondly, next year is not even the problem. If Benning commits more long-term dollars for next season, what does he do in 2021-22, when he needs to re-sign Pettersson and Hughes? EP will likely cost $10M as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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