coastal.view Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: why would there be a difference between how the virus acts between Canada and South Korea? I don't understand. he has been watching hollywood movies and because he saw something on tv about viruses he thinks it is true in real life his theory is not based on fact speculation based on tv we will be notified if the virus does in fact change but he has no understanding about how this might occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 JT on Global now... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, Chris12345 said: I can help thin the herd if it's a problem.... Farm elk are the way to go.... the last two (only two) I've been in on we had to carry off the mountain... the first one we tried getting out in dark and ended up in a creek bed it was legitimately the hardest physical challenge I've ever had. Second one we were a bit smarter and pulled it all out in the daylight; still a looooot of weight to carry between two guys lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) oops Edited March 24, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jester13 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, High and Inside said: If it mutates the virus could be become more contagious. I’m know expert by any means so I could be wrong. It's almost certainly not a matter of if but when. Did anyone here know that the flu mutates basically every year? It can make it less infectious but also more. COVID-19 could at any point mutate, in any country. This is a big concern and why it's so important to create a vaccine before it has a chance to get even more out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gurn Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 A day or two? back it was mentioned in a linked story that health care workers in NY were being asked to work with used masks or a bandana. Now in Canada we have this https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/edmonton-nurses-defy-order-to-resume-covid-19-testing-without-n95-masks/ar-BB11BW9z?ocid=spartandhp " A dozen Edmonton nurses have defied an order by Alberta Health Services to resume testing for the coronavirus without N95 masks. Occupational Health and Safety (OHS) confirmed Monday it has launched an investigation after nurses filed a complaint. Advertisement It's the latest development in an ongoing dispute after CBC revealed roughly 30 nurses stopped testing for COVID-19. AHS investigated and determined the work was safe. But nearly half the nurses ordered to start testing again are refusing, said Sandi Johnson, vice president of Edmonton's local chapter of the United Nurses of Alberta (UNA). "They're disheartened," said Johnson. "They're feeling that they're not being heard." Tests for COVID-19 are conducted using a nasopharyngeal swab that collects samples from the back of the nose and throat. But AHS and the UNA disagree on requirements needed to conduct the test. AHS says the more loosely fitting surgical masks are appropriate but the union argues a higher standard is needed because scientific evidence around transmission is not conclusive. According to AHS, COVID-19 is known to be transmitted by droplet through contact with nasal and oral secretions. Alberta's guidelines are the known best practice to protect against droplet transmission, the health authority says. The position of AHS follows the guidelines of the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), the World Health Organization and provinces across the country. "AHS has not changed its [personal protection equipment] standards and expects all staff to comply with those standards," Williamson said in an email on Monday. In contrast, the UNA's position is in line with the Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions, the U.S. Centres for Disease Control and the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. "There is conflicting scientific evidence in terms of whether or not COVID-19 is airborne and for how long," said Heather Smith, president of the UNA, adding that the swab tends to trigger a cough or sneeze. "We say in that case, one should always be erring on the side of highest possible precautions." Smith said a nurse's clinical judgment should be respected "and if in her or his clinical judgment an N95 is warranted then it should not be denied." PHAC guidelines also recommend nurses do a risk assessment that includes personal protective equipment to evaluate likelihood of exposure, Johnson noted. Nurses perform alternate work Brittany Baltimore, press secretary to Labour and Immigration Minister Jason Copping, said a worker who files a complaint may continue to refuse to perform tasks of concern. "The OHS legislation allows the employer to assign the nurses temporarily to alternate work," Baltimore said. Little research has been done on the transmission of the agent that causes COVID-19 because it is "a very new human pathogen," said Anice Lowen, an influenza virologist at Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta. "As a consequence, the recommendation to use surgical masks rather than N95 masks may be a practical necessity, but it is not based on science indicating that surgical masks provide good protection." Lowen, a former Edmontonian, is the principal scientist at the Lowen Lab, which studies influenza virus evolution and transmission. In an email, Lowen said to determine which mask is needed, scientists would first need to understand if the virus can transmit over a short distance via an aerosol route She said aerosols are made up of small droplets that are not effectively blocked by standard surgical masks. And while evidence suggests aerosol does not transmit more than a metre, the "short-range aerosol spread remains unknown." "We do know that small droplet aerosols are released when humans breathe, speak and cough," Lowen wrote. "The nurses doing swabbing are in a relatively vulnerable position because any infectious aerosols generated from a patient would not be diluted — through time and space – prior to reaching the nurse." Last week Ottawa announced a plan to ramp up production of protective gear for health workers. When asked about a possible shortage of N95 respirators, AHS said the province has an adequate supply that must be used appropriately to ensure that continues. The health authority won't say how many N95 masks Alberta has or whether more have been ordered from Ottawa. The union and AHS will meet on Tuesday. OHS said the findings of its investigation will be communicated to involved parties involved but didn't provide a timeline." Get ready to see a reduction in the health care workforce, either due to people quitting rather than work with unsafe conditions, or health care workers getting sick due to unsafe working conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris12345 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, J-Dizzle said: Farm elk are the way to go.... the last two (only two) I've been in on we had to carry off the mountain... the first one we tried getting out in dark and ended up in a creek bed it was legitimately the hardest physical challenge I've ever had. Second one we were a bit smarter and pulled it all out in the daylight; still a looooot of weight to carry between two guys lol. Love it. I camped out this year and somehow it dropped to minus 15. The struggles make stories for our future old bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Looking for elk? Try a golf course at dawn or dusk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Kakanucks said: I dunno, I'll put Xi above the turd. Disagree. Donald Trump is the worst and he's clueless and has a very punchable face. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, gurn said: Looking for elk? Try a golf course at dawn or dusk. Make sure to get permission first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, gurn said: Looking for elk? Try a golf course at dawn or dusk. We all know what happened when oldnews took a short-cut thru a golf course.......\ (NSFW - language) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaTikare Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Cool stuff! And is it @debluvscanucks i hear with the bell? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Kakanucks said: I dunno, I'll put Xi above the turd. How about having a higher bar to beat? That's like saying, Willie was a better NHL head coach of the Canucks than Bill Laforge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Well found out my wifes work is considered essential service today (as long as BC follows Quebec and Ontario, company is country wide) so that means she'll be atleast working, hopefully mine is still essential or I might be trying to get a temporary job again at my wifes work where I met her 8 years ago lol Apparently they have TONS of people calling in not wanting to work (not a surprise, I left because people were notorious scammers of the system there and the union just loves it) so lots of work there still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 49 minutes ago, Jester13 said: It's almost certainly not a matter of if but when. Did anyone here know that the flu mutates basically every year? It can make it less infectious but also more. COVID-19 could at any point mutate, in any country. This is a big concern and why it's so important to create a vaccine before it has a chance to get even more out of hand. Thats why the flu vaccine isn't massively effective all the time. They basically take Australias strain, hope and guess what the flu strain may look like and make a vaccine and hope its close and can have some effectiveness. Thats why when people say the flu vaccine doesn't work its because it changes constantly so you'll only be able to effect certain strains. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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