Coronavirus outbreak

[Bertburelinden]

On 7/8/2022 at 4:19 PM, Alflives said:

Your dad may be chronologically a man, but refusing these vaccines (which are free and abundant here) is childish, selfish and foolish.  But I’m guessing that’s why you’re posting here, right?  To stir the pot?  

Looking at this post and some of your previous posts calling people selfish and childish ….ect , wouldn’t that be stirring the pot ? 

Edited July 15, 2022 by Bertburelinden

[TrudeauVoter]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-resuming-mandatory-random-covid-19-testing-for-air-travellers-1.5987380

 

A step in the right direction

 

Now bring back the vaccine mandates too with up to date shots, not just the first 2 shots

[Slegr]

I just got my first case of CoViD while I’m in Florida right now. I’m triple vaxxed, and it has been manageable.. kind of like a flu for a few days. I seem to be on the up and up now. Stay safe all. 

[Ghostsof1915]

 

Swell.

[bishopshodan]

A close friends entire family got covid a couple weeks ago including his dad that has some health issues.

 

His dad has been very nervous of the virus and has done everything he could and should do to stay healthy.

The entire family is fully vaxxed an boosted.

 

The dad is in the hospital right now. They don't know if he will make it. 

 

It's still out there folks.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[DrJockitch]

After three years of avoiding it my wife got it 2 days before we were to fly to Vancouver. She is very, very active and healthy. 
‘In bed for 5 days and weeks of lingering cough and episodes of unprovoked tachycardia. 
She is a shell of her regular self. 
Somehow I avoided it as did everyone else in the house and had a wonderful trip too Vancouver without her unfortunately. 
It is still out there and probably at as high a level as ever and September/October may be the worst yet. 

[Jtutino]

[Warhippy]

4 hours ago, Jtutino said:

What are you saying exactly here?

 

I mean it's obvious but try harder than a screen grab of an overall far larger statement and make the point you're so dying to

[Jtutino]

11 hours ago, Warhippy said:

What are you saying exactly here?

 

I mean it's obvious but try harder than a screen grab of an overall far larger statement and make the point you're so dying to

Why are you so triggered by data? 

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, Jtutino said:

Why are you so triggered by data? 

You assume I am triggered because I am asking you a simple question?

 

Fascinating.

 

Where is the rest of the data?  not the cherry picked agenda driven screen shot you posted with zero defining information.  What is your screen shot in support of?  What are you getting at?

 

Asking questions is not "triggered" it is sourcing out information and coming to conclusions (not jumping to them)

 

So, what are you getting at?

[Jtutino]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

You assume I am triggered because I am asking you a simple question?

 

Fascinating.

 

Where is the rest of the data?  not the cherry picked agenda driven screen shot you posted with zero defining information.  What is your screen shot in support of?  What are you getting at?

 

Asking questions is not "triggered" it is sourcing out information and coming to conclusions (not jumping to them)

 

So, what are you getting at?

You asked me what I was saying then said It was obvious. If its so obvious to you then why asked the question? 

 

[Warhippy]

25 minutes ago, Jtutino said:

You asked me what I was saying then said It was obvious. If its so obvious to you then why asked the question? 

 

Because I like information.

 

You're quite defensive for merely being asked about your position and if you'd provide more information to support it.

[Alflives]

35 minutes ago, Jtutino said:

You asked me what I was saying then said It was obvious. If its so obvious to you then why asked the question? 

 

Are you an antivaxxer?  Or are you just opposed to the Covid vaccines?  Or are you a political person, who believes we in BC could have done a better job with how we managed the Covid Pandemic?  

[coho8888]

16 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Are you an antivaxxer?  Or are you just opposed to the Covid vaccines?  Or are you a political person, who believes we in BC could have done a better job with how we managed the Covid Pandemic?  

Well, if it smells like a duck.....

 

Throwing out data without context is the main tactic of Anti-Vaxxers and unfortunately many believe it.

 

 

 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, coho8888 said:

Well, if it smells like a duck.....

 

Throwing out data without context is the main tactic of Anti-Vaxxers and unfortunately many believe it.

 

 

 

Has there proven to be a more ignorant group of people than these antivaxxers?  

[Gurn]

Newish thing in the anti-vax world. "OMG all those unexplained deaths"- which they can't link to, or provide more info on.

Newest thing in anti-vax world "OMG, plummeting fertility rates"- which they can't provide a link for, or provide more data.

 

[Jtutino]

4 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Because I like information.

 

You're quite defensive for merely being asked about your position and if you'd provide more information to support it.

Well why are you so upset by the information I posted? Why do I have to interpret the data for you? Are you unable to do so for yourself? What I posted wasnt an opion it was facts brought to you by the b.c center for disease control. You say you like information but it seems like you only like information that supports your point of view. I posted it because that information use to be posted with the other covid numbers on this thread until a couple months ago. I wonder why it isnt anymore........... It was hard to find so I posted it for other people who want to see it. 

[Jtutino]

4 hours ago, coho8888 said:

Well, if it smells like a duck.....

 

Throwing out data without context is the main tactic of Anti-Vaxxers and unfortunately many believe it.

 

 

 

Haha if it smells like a duck? Im pretty sure thats not how the saying goes but ok. The context is in the data. Many people believe facts? That data is not up for debate it is straight facts of what happened in that 8 week period. If you want to believe your truth over facts go ahead it makes no difference to me. I really dont care what you think.

[Elias Pettersson]

Brandon Sutter is using Ivermectin to treat his long COVID...

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/canucks-brandon-sutter-still-stuck-in-covid-19-long-hauler-maze/ar-AA100n0G?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3ad8a9efb222465b878f8c7da09dc2de

 

Canucks: Brandon Sutter still stuck in COVID-19 long-hauler maze

 

Brandon Sutter had time to talk because he has nothing but time.

 

The long-serving Vancouver Canucks’ centre, who has struggled with severe COVID-19 long-hauler symptoms for nearly a year, is also an unrestricted free agent with an uncertain playing future.

 

During a 160-kilometre drive from his off-season home in Sylvan Lake, Alta., to Calgary on Tuesday — a trek to the Hoffman Centre clinic he makes three times a week to receive intravenous treatments to fight protein inflammation — there was a mix of anticipation and angst in his voice.

 

Sutter, 33, is buoyed by recent medical advancements in long-haul detection and treatments, but continues to suffer with a lack of breath and weakness.

 

“Basically, I’ve been left with a lot of different things,” said Sutter. “With my lungs and my breathing and any exertion, I just can’t do it. I stop and feel like I have to cough something out and just feel like I can’t get oxygen into my body.

 

“And if I do too much, I get short of breath and when I try to take a deep breath, I just can’t get it. That’s how it feels.

 

“I still can’t do any cardio. I tried working out again in March and April to kind of get going again. But I’d have a really bad day and it would just crush me — I just couldn’t do it — because of a lack of oxygen and just depleting myself. The lingering effect is an inability to breath normally and properly.

 

“I was also having gastrointestinal issues, but I’m a 100 per cent better than I was a year ago. But I still can’t train or work out. When I take it easier, I’m OK. When I do too much, it just crushes me.”

 

Present procedures are designed to allow the body to heal itself naturally without the short-term fix of steroids because Sutter has a low fat percentage in his blood and body.  

 

“The ongoing issue is we don’t exactly know what we’re trying to heal yet,” admitted Sutter. “I’ve seen studies where long-COVID could be like micro-clotting in your lungs and your body having an inability to process oxygen. I don’t have a result of whether I have that or not, but it sure lines up with what I’m dealing with.”

 

Microscopic clots can also restrict blood flow in the lungs and impair oxygen exchange and the only supplement that Sutter continues to take is Ivermectin. It’s used to de-worm farm animals and mainly cattle, but in the human form, it’s prescribed for parasites and worms.

 

“Canadian doctors are not allowed to prescribe it for COVID and I had to get it myself, but it helps remove the COVID spike protein,” added Sutter. “It works. And in the U.S., it’s everywhere and it’s helping a lot of people and there is zero risk.

 

“It either helps you or it doesn’t, but 100 per cent it won’t hurt you. I can’t speak for others, but it has helped me.”

 

Sutter was having a satisfying 2020-21 season before it went sideways.

 

He was moved back to centre from wing to help stop the bleeding of goals and responded with his first career hat trick — including a short-handed effort — in a 7-1 pounding of the Ottawa Senators on Jan. 25, 2021. But then came a team COVID outbreak.

 

The Canucks were shut down March 31 and 22 players were afflicted with varying degrees of symptoms, nine games were postponed and one rescheduled.  

 

“A lot of people who have been long-haulers have said they got better and then worse later,” said Sutter. “That was me. I came back and played after (shutdown) and I didn’t really noticed any issues. Then in May and June, I started having a couple of issues of being short of breath and then I’d be OK. I could train and skate and it wasn’t really an issue.

 

“In early August and after I got my vaccine, one thing I learned about this is my body was depleted of COVID. When I was actually able to get my vaccine because they weren’t available for our age yet — and I had to wait 90 days after COVID — had I known what I know now, I wouldn’t have got vaccinated for at least a year.

 

“What I gathered from specialists and doctors is that the spike protein from the virus is the residual effect and still in your body. The first two weeks, you fight off the worst of it and it’s gone. My body still had the spike protein and my body was still fighting it.

 

“Then I got the vaccine and it just made things worse and my second vaccine made it worse again. I wish I would have waited until I felt 100 per cent healthy before getting the vaccine, but at that time, nobody really knew the answers on this stuff.

 

“It was trial-and-error and really didn’t work out for me. I’m in no way an anti-vaxxer. What I learned is that the spike protein is already in your body and you can’t put more in.

 

“As far as I know, I’ve only had COVID that one time.”

 

There is no timeline for long-hauler recovery.  

 

The looming reality for Sutter is that his 770 career regular-season games split between the Carolina Hurricanes, Pittsburgh Penguins and the Canucks are fading in the rear-view mirror and there’s no map for the road ahead.

 

“I’m obviously still hopeful I can come back and play, but I just don’t know when that is going to be,” said Sutter, who amassed 289 points (152-137) over 13 seasons. “I just want to feel normal again. Then I can start thinking about training and preparing but for now, it’s about taking care of myself and worrying about hockey later. I know for me there’s only a few years left at best.

 

“It’s crappy and has been a grind for my wife to deal with it, but a lot of people are going through worse things than I’m going through. The blessing is to be home every day after we had our third baby (Maddie), but if I take the kids for a bike ride, I’m gassed.”

 

Sutter is grateful for a healthy family and what the game has provided and staying involved in some manner seems like a natural transition. Always approachable in the room, win or lose, to give context to the season is something that comes naturally to him.

 

Imagine if Hockey Canada, that’s under the federal and moral microscope for alleged sexual misconduct by its players, had somebody like Sutter to school players when they enter the national program? Seems like a natural fit.

 

“I haven’t thought about that because I’m still focused on playing, but that would certainly be of interest,” said Sutter.

 

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Edited July 26, 2022 by Elias Pettersson