Coronavirus outbreak

[nuckin_futz]

NYC reports 3,615 of COVID-19 cases

Thu 19 Mar 2020 17:55:14 GMT

 

Report 22 deaths

NYC is reporting 3,615 COVID -19 cases and 22 fatalities. Brooklyn as most cases among NYC Burroughs with 1,030

 

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New York Stock Exchange closing it's trading floor. All trading will continue fully electronic.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

47 minutes ago, Green Building said:

Jesus. I 've been wondering how many of the affected, not just those who succumb, were smokers.

Older + smokers doesn't make for a good combination I'm afraid. Granted there are alot of smokers in China as well.

[higgyfan]

Some interesting info on COVID-19 found in my email this am and thought I'd pass it along to CDC.

 

Advice from Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon.

 

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold.

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.

 

Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! THE SYMPTOMS 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

 

Something else... https://www.preview.ph/culture/soap-handwashing-against-viruses-a00193-20200313

How does washing with soap kill viruses like COVID-19?

"To make it simple: Soap is made of fat, and the key that holds the virus together is the lipid layer on the outside. So to break the lipid layer, the soap will disassemble it and the virus falls apart," says the doctor.

 

How does soap compare to using alcohol and sanitizer?

Dr. Pajanel clarifies that soap, alcohol, and sanitizers all help in fighting the virus. But there is an order of efficiency, which goes: soap > alcohol > sanitizer. "Sanitizer is 'watered down', but it's better than nothing," she adds. Alcohol and sanitizer are good for when you're on the go and have no access to a sink, but whenever possible, always opt for the soap and water option.

Speaking of being effective, the posts you see online about washing your hands with soap for 20 seconds aren't just memes—they're actually accurate. "Viruses are more resilient compared to bacteria. And our alcohol solutions, although handy, are not as good at 'disinfecting' for viruses, and the length of time is proportionate to death (of the organism)," the doctor continues. So whether it's singing "happy birthday" or humming the chorus of your favourite song, do whatever you have to do to have enough hand washing time!

 

Last but not least, recent studies have indicated that Vitamin D 1000UI is helpful in preventing respiratory illness.

 

Edited March 19, 2020 by higgyfan

[mayor MCcheese]

55 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Italy death toll overtakes China

Thu 19 Mar 2020 17:17:26 GMT

 

Total death toll reaches at 3405 up 427 on the day

Italy has announced their daily coronavirus numbers and they continue to worsen:

• Total death toll has now surpassed China's figures. They are up to 3405. That is a gain of 427 from yesterday. That is an increase of 14.3%
• The total infected has risen to 41,035 from 35,713 on Wednesday. That is an increase of 14.9%

 

I believe the Chinese numbers as much as I believe someone selling magic seeds that grow money trees.

[oldnews]

2 hours ago, Alflives said:

Maybe we should be making our own medications, rather than importing them?  Hoping our government learns from this.  

https://rock95.com/canadas-first-coronavirus-vaccine-now-in-testing-stages-in-saskatchewan/

 

https://news.usask.ca/articles/research/2020/vido-intervac-team-tackles-coronavirus-researchers-developing-prototype-vaccines-at-usask.php

 

https://innovationsask.ca/news/saskatchewan-funds-coronavirus-vaccine-research

 

 

[Green Building]

 

 

 

Safeway doing the right thing, but holy crap do people not know how to stay out of others way. They just walk right up and stare at you, breathing and waiting as though you're inconveniencing them, like bro, it's a concerted effort, get the &^@# out of everyone's way.   

 

Lucky for me I have enough food for probably 10 days so the only thing I need to make a trip for now is coffee.

[Silky mitts]

Man the gyms being closed sucks the most. 

[EmilyM]

6 minutes ago, Silky mitts said:

Man the gyms being closed sucks the most. 

I can think of so many worse things

[Ryan Strome]

1 hour ago, gurn said:

http://www.covid-19canada.com/

 

14,366 cases 43 dead     1 in 338.2

 

Maybe Germany is testing more people, that are not as sick as those tested in other countries?

If I'm a doctor/scientist/researcher I'd be looking to see just what Germany is doing differently than other countries.

Exactly. 

[EmilyM]

37 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Older + smokers doesn't make for a good combination I'm afraid. Granted there are alot of smokers in China as well.

Also, it wasn't too long ago when the big news was the respiratory illnesses that some vapers were experiencing. 

[redhdlois]

Petey being Petey.

 

 

[Ryan Strome]

23 minutes ago, Green Building said:

 

 

 

Safeway doing the right thing, but holy crap do people not know how to stay out of others way. They just walk right up and stare at you, breathing and waiting as though you're inconveniencing them, like bro, it's a concerted effort, get the &^@# out of everyone's way.   

 

Lucky for me I have enough food for probably 10 days so the only thing I need to make a trip for now is coffee.

I'll probably just stock up on alcohol and I'll be good

[Ryan Strome]

27 minutes ago, oldnews said:

https://rock95.com/canadas-first-coronavirus-vaccine-now-in-testing-stages-in-saskatchewan/

 

https://news.usask.ca/articles/research/2020/vido-intervac-team-tackles-coronavirus-researchers-developing-prototype-vaccines-at-usask.php

 

https://innovationsask.ca/news/saskatchewan-funds-coronavirus-vaccine-research

 

 

How quick will they fast track this? I seen this a few days ago on the news. Unfortunately Canada is slow approving drugs, I hope they can some how get this available asap.

[EmilyM]

Experimental drug holds promise for treating the coronavirus
At least two hospitalized patients who got the drug remdesivir started to feel better the next day. Clinical trial results expected in late April.
There are early signs that an experimental treatment for people who become very sick from the coronavirus may start working within 24 hours of the first dose.

The treatment, an antiviral therapy called remdesivir, is thought to work by blocking the virus from reproducing itself in the body.

 

"It basically stops the production of the virus," Dr. Gregory Poland, an infectious diseases expert and director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine Research Group in Rochester, Minnesota, told NBC News.

Remdesivir was one of the potential treatments mentioned by President Donald Trump during a press briefing on Thursday. He announced that federal health officials are removing barriers in attempts to roll out treatments as fast as possible.
(source: NBC News)

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Obviously, very very very early and small small small sample size, but any signs of promise is welcome.

Edited March 19, 2020 by EmilyM
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[NewbieCanuckFan]

7 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

I'll probably just stock up on alcohol and I'll be good

When isn't a good time to stock up on it?

[Silky mitts]

15 minutes ago, EmilyM said:

I can think of so many worse things

True heard number five might close

[Green Building]

How the virus acts inside your body:  

 

   

 

  

[250Integra]

25 minutes ago, Silky mitts said:

Man the gyms being closed sucks the most. 

Go find a playground 

[Jester13]

33 minutes ago, Silky mitts said:

Man the gyms being closed sucks the most. 

What about the tanning salons and laundromats? 

[Gurn]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/younger-adults-are-large-percentage-of-coronavirus-hospitalizations-in-united-states-according-to-new-cdc-data/ar-BB11q5DT?ocid=spartandhp

 

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he deadly coronavirus has been met with a bit of a shrug among some in the under-50 set in the United States. Even as public health officials repeatedly urged social distancing, the young and hip spilled out of bars on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. They gleefully hopped on flights, tweeting about the rock-bottom airfares. And they gathered in packs on beaches.

Their attitudes were based in part on early data from China, which suggested covid-19 might seriously sicken or kill the elderly — but spare the young.

Stark new data from the United States and Europe suggests otherwise.

A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55.

Earlier this week, French health ministry official Jérome Salomon said half of the 300 to 400 coronavirus patients treated in intensive care units in Paris were younger than 65, and, according to numbers presented at a seminar of intensive care specialists, half the ICU patients in the Netherlands were younger than 50.

At a White House news conference on Wednesday, Deborah Birx, the response coordinator of the nation’s coronavirus task force, warned about the concerning reports from France — and Italy, too — about “young people getting seriously ill and very seriously ill in the ICUs.”

She called out younger generations in particular, for not taking the virus seriously, and warned of “disproportional number of infections among that group.”

President Trump reinforced her warning, saying: “We don’t want them gathering, and I see they do gather, including on beaches and in restaurants, young people. They don’t realize, and they’re feeling invincible.”

The CDC report looked at 4,226 covid-19 cases, with much of the data coming from the outbreaks among older adults in assisted living facilities. As in China, the highest percentage of severe outcomes were among the elderly. About 80 percent of people who died were older than 65.

However, the percentage with more moderate or severe disease requiring hospitalization is more evenly distributed between the old and the young, with 53 percent of those in ICUs and 45 percent of those hospitalized age 65 and older.

“These preliminary data also demonstrate that severe illness leading to hospitalization, including ICU admission and death, can occur in adults of any age with COVID-19,” researchers wrote.

There was more encouraging news about children in the United States. Those age 19 and younger who were tested appear to have milder illness with almost no hospitalizations. A much larger sample of children in China, as detailed in the journal Pediatrics this week, found that most children had mild to moderate illness.

The CDC report did not specify whether the younger patients had underlying conditions that might make them more vulnerable, but Anthony S. Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, commented on CNN on Wednesday night that some did.

One younger adult, Clement Chow, a genetics researcher at the University of Utah, has been tweeting about his experiences. “Important point: we really don’t know much about his virus. I’m young and not high risk, yet I am in the ICU with a very severe case,” he wrote. He said he was facing respiratory failure and put on oxygen.

Public health experts say it’s difficult to compare coronavirus numbers by age across countries at this stage because of the limited numbers tested and because differences may be related to the environment, lifestyle, demographics or something about the virus itself.

There may be a high percentages of young smokers in some areas of France, for example. Or “the high proportion of critically ill young people in the Netherlands may reflect the relatively younger population,” the Dutch news service NRC surmised.

Maybe some young people who were tested happen to be in cities or industrial areas with a lot of pollution that may affect their susceptibility to serious respiratory illness. Or the bar for admission to the hospital and the quality of treatment may vary enough by country that it affects the course of the illness.

Adolfo Garcia-Sastre, the director of the Global Health and Emerging Pathogens Institute at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York City, said the numbers are difficult to interpret because so few people have been tested. He said some populations may be overrepresented because of public health officials focusing on testing clusters of people who live together and may be of similar ages.

However, Garcia-Sastre said, the numbers show it’s clear “everybody has risk. Even in young people, there is a percentage that has serious infection."