Coronavirus outbreak

[skolozsy2]

13 minutes ago, Shift-4 said:

At airport right now

Not freaking out but I'd rather not be here

Isolate this guy before he infects everyone in this thread 

[PhillipBlunt]

Those who make the decisions to allow infected people into countries where the virus didn't exist before, should have to suffer a similar fate as a result of their carelessness and selfishness.

[TheRussianRocket1994]

1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said:

How about THEY prepare too?  

 

It's all cute and lovely to encourage us to wash our hands but maybe do a little more?

Exactly.....they haven't done a thing but talk (and say nothing), but there's multiple things of a serious nature that they should have done since the beginning or should be doing now. It's so frustrating because it effects more then just them...it could effect thousands! 

[RUPERTKBD]

Good news folks! Donald Trump has put Mike Pence in charge of the American Coronavirus response!

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-says-pence-will-be-in-charge-of-coronavirus-response/ar-BB10ryu5?li=AAggNb9

 

Pence undoubtedly knows that you can't beat a virus by slapping tariffs on it, or having Border Services refuse it entry at customs, but unfortunately, he probably believes he can pray it away.....

 

I'm guessing they call it the "Hail Mary" response....

[Jaimito]

4 hours ago, riffraff said:

Honestly why are they letting people come back into Canada after travelling through Asia?

It doesn't matter where they are traveling from anymore. It is widespread internationally.  The fact is, it is transmitted just like other coronavirus which gives you the common cold.  People's habits promote its spread, and that's why the virus exists. Hand shaking, kissing, crowding, spitting, sneezing or coughing in public, touching posts or elevator buttons, holding the rail on stairs etc.  We all do it without worry, but that's exactly how many of us get a cold every few months.   Kids are even worse, passing germs like dogs.  But luckily, kids don't seem to get very sick with it.

 

We don't worry about the common cold, but this strain is much more deadly in comparison. So in practical terms, washing your hands, social distancing, staying home when ill are all reasonable. Staying healthy so you can fight it if you get it. Fatality rate is probably closer to 1% than 2%, since many people who have mild disease are not tested.  Majority of people who get it are going to be fine (over 70%). But don't spread it by going out, coughing or sneezing in public, touching stuff etc.  There will be people susceptible to this and die, esp elderly and those with chronic illnesses.  The worried well will flood the hospitals and overwhelm the system.  People should be prepared for self quarantine when an outbreak happens at your community.  Get enough food for 2 wks, meds if you take them, etc.  Setup ways to work from home if possible etc. Life goes on. After this is over, hopefully more countries will wake up and put more resources to prevent a future more deadly pandemic.  China needs to crack down on the wildlife trade and up the surveillance program so they will isolate the outbreak faster. All that economic progress they made on industries, they put too little effort on the quality of life and public health measures.   

 

A vaccine is at least a yr away.  So stay alive and uninfected until then. If you are antivax type, you won't have to worry about anything. Your natural immunity will take of it. 

[PhillipBlunt]

2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Good news folks! Donald Trump has put Mike Pence in charge of the American Coronavirus response!

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-says-pence-will-be-in-charge-of-coronavirus-response/ar-BB10ryu5?li=AAggNb9

 

Pence undoubtedly knows that you can't beat a virus by slapping tariffs on it, or having Border Services refuse it entry at customs, but unfortunately, he probably believes he can pray it away.....

 

I'm guessing they call it the "Hail Mary" response....

Pence stated that his religious predilections don’t allow him to be in the same room with the Coronavirus without his wife. 

[riffraff]

3 hours ago, Jaimito said:

It doesn't matter where they are traveling from anymore. It is widespread internationally.  The fact is, it is transmitted just like other coronavirus which gives you the common cold.  People's habits promote its spread, and that's why the virus exists. Hand shaking, kissing, crowding, spitting, sneezing or coughing in public, touching posts or elevator buttons, holding the rail on stairs etc.  We all do it without worry, but that's exactly how many of us get a cold every few months.   Kids are even worse, passing germs like dogs.  But luckily, kids don't seem to get very sick with it.

 

We don't worry about the common cold, but this strain is much more deadly in comparison. So in practical terms, washing your hands, social distancing, staying home when ill are all reasonable. Staying healthy so you can fight it if you get it. Fatality rate is probably closer to 1% than 2%, since many people who have mild disease are not tested.  Majority of people who get it are going to be fine (over 70%). But don't spread it by going out, coughing or sneezing in public, touching stuff etc.  There will be people susceptible to this and die, esp elderly and those with chronic illnesses.  The worried well will flood the hospitals and overwhelm the system.  People should be prepared for self quarantine when an outbreak happens at your community.  Get enough food for 2 wks, meds if you take them, etc.  Setup ways to work from home if possible etc. Life goes on. After this is over, hopefully more countries will wake up and put more resources to prevent a future more deadly pandemic.  China needs to crack down on the wildlife trade and up the surveillance program so they will isolate the outbreak faster. All that economic progress they made on industries, they put too little effort on the quality of life and public health measures.   

 

A vaccine is at least a yr away.  So stay alive and uninfected until then. If you are antivax type, you won't have to worry about anything. Your natural immunity will take of it. 

Some good points here.  Nice one.

[samurai]

On 2/26/2020 at 10:59 AM, Grape said:

Lol let me know which part is inaccurate before you come with your age argument . It's a message board, not an academic paper; I'm not going to cite sources for you lmfao. I found intriguing quotes and pasted them. If you're upset with that I can't help you!

 

Edit: Another thing, unless you're extracting your numbers off of original databases and doing your own statistical analysis, you're also finding your "proper research" through essentially the same mediums as I am. The difference here is that you disagree with my viewpoint.

 

You are definitely very young.  

 

 

 

[Duodenum]

On 2/25/2020 at 12:42 PM, DefCon1 said:

So much misinformation based on ignorance. COVID19 has a death rate of 2-3% vs. normal flu which has a death rate of 0.1%. We have vaccines for seasonal flu called Tamiflu, we also know a lot more about seasonal flu compared to this novel virus. We dont have a vaccine for this virus yet and some studies have discovered that this virus could be hidden for 24 days while other studies have said that re-infection of COVID19, meaning patient recovered from COVID19 that got re-infected again will have a higher chance of death due to compromised heart tissue. So No, this isnt like any seasonal flu, anyone who says otherwise are just being ignorant. If it was like a seasonal flu, we wouldnt be having flight bans and chinese cities shutting down and having economical downturn. Its not fear mongering or mass hysteria, just facts that this virus is more deadlier than your usual seasonal flu and it seems more contagious too.

Just to correct this part, Tamiflu is not a vaccine. The most common flu vaccine in BC used is Fluviral along with other less common ones like Agriflu, Flumist, and Fluzone. 

Tamiflu is an antiviral medication that reduces the severity and duration of the flu if you start it early enough in the person's infection (within 48 hours). 

[Tortorella's Rant]

Goodbye gains made from 2019. Took all year to see portfolio grow only to be obliterated in 3 days.

[HI5]

20 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Goodbye gains made from 2019. Took all year to see portfolio grow only to be obliterated in 3 days.

I’m down 5k today, and decided to put in another 5k towards some energy stocks. 

[nuckin_futz]

California Gov.: Monitoring 8.5K people for coronavirus

Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:57:47 GMT

 

Also BBC reports 1st case of coronavirus in Northern Ireland

The governor of California is out saying that the state is monitoring 8.5K people for coronavirus in CA.  

 

• On testing protocol, the CDC assured they would be advanced with urgency
• CA only has a few hundred testing kits
• 33 people tested positive for the virus with 5 moving out of state

 

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New York State health Department: 700 people have been asked to self isolate for 2 wks

Thu 27 Feb 2020 19:53:49 GMT

 

The headlines are not going to get better

 

The headlines on the coronavirus continue to not instill a lot of confidence. It is hard not to think that numbers get bigger as the virus spreads.

 

The latest comes from New York State health Department which is saying:

 

 

 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

California Gov.: Monitoring 8.5K people for coronavirus

Thu 27 Feb 2020 18:57:47 GMT

 

Also BBC reports 1st case of coronavirus in Northern Ireland

The governor of California is out saying that the state is monitoring 8.5K people for coronavirus in CA.  

 

• On testing protocol, the CDC assured they would be advanced with urgency
• CA only has a few hundred testing kits
• 33 people tested positive for the virus with 5 moving out of state

 

*********************************

New York State health Department: 700 people have been asked to self isolate for 2 wks

Thu 27 Feb 2020 19:53:49 GMT

 

The headlines are not going to get better

 

The headlines on the coronavirus continue to not instill a lot of confidence. It is hard not to think that numbers get bigger as the virus spreads.

 

The latest comes from New York State health Department which is saying:

 

 

 

In .china, what happened to the other 50,000 infected who lived, but still infected?  

[PhillipBlunt]

Hey @smokes. How are you doing?

[Gurn]

The above numbers work out to 1 in 29.38 infected are dying. more than 3%.

[smokes]

16 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Hey @smokes. How are you doing?

Good, just bored to death. Been over a month locked up at home but at least I got the Canucks on Youtube.

[D-Money]

19 hours ago, gurn said:

The above numbers work out to 1 in 29.38 infected are dying. more than 3%.

It's more than that. You'd have to compare deaths to recovered, wouldn't you? The rest are to be determined. 

 

That would be 11.66%. Although, that would only include cases serious enough to get tested in the first place.

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by D-Money

[Tortorella's Rant]

It's getting wild in Wuhan.

Woman fights off Golden Retriever trying to spread coronavirus. 
 

 

[Kragar]

43 minutes ago, D-Money said:

It's more than that. You'd have to compare deaths to recovered, wouldn't you? The rest are to be determined. 

 

That would be 11.66%. Although, that would only include cases serious enough to get tested in the first place.

 

That doesn't work either, because it takes longer to recover than die.  There are so many variables in the calculations that trying to pinpoint a death rate on something new is quite difficult. 

 

As you point out, not everyone who contracts the virus will be known to have it, and perhaps pass it off as flu or something else.  A huge majority of those people will fall into the recover category, since most of those who die from it will have the cause identified.  There's a decent chance, due to our more open and freer societies, that the disease could spread more easily in Western countries, but our better health, diet, economies and health care will enable us to more easily fight off the bug.  Of course, there is always concern over Chinese government reports.  Their desire to suppress news of the bug and its danger has reportedly led to discrepancies in infections and deaths, which could alter the equation in either direction depending on what their goal is.  

 

FWIW (not a whole lot), my guess would put it more in the same ballpark as @gurn, maybe even lower.

[smokes]

Wierd?

 

Hong Kong finds coronavirus in pet dog, unclear if infected

A pet dog was quarantined at an animal centre in Hong Kong after it tested positive to low levels of the new coronavirus, officials said Friday, in the first such case in the city.

The dog did not have any symptoms.

The canine, which belongs to a 60-year-old woman infected with the virus, has no "relevant symptoms", the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department said. (Coronavirus outbreak: All the latest updates)

But "nasal and oral cavity samples were tested weak positive to Covid-19 virus," a spokesman said, without explaining why they tested the animal in the first place.

The dog was collected from the owner's home on Wednesday, after the woman was diagnosed with the contagion and placed in a hospital isolation ward.

It would be closely monitored and undergo further tests to confirm if it really has the virus or if "this is a result of environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose," the department said.

The canine would be held until it returned a negative result.

While there is no evidence domestic animals such as dogs and cats can catch the virus or transmit it to humans, the department said pets of infected people should be quarantined for 14 days.

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/world/hong-kong-finds-coronavirus-in-pet-dog-unclear-if-infected/ar-BB10vNN7?li=BBqrVLO