PhillipBlunt Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, samurai said: remember there are other ways to die Frightening Car Deaths Per Year Statistics for 2020 1.35 million people die in road accidents worldwide every year — 3,700 deaths a day. Car crashes have risen to the 8th leading cause of death for people globally. Saturday is estimated to be the deadliest day of the week for car crashes in the US. In 2017, there were a total of 34,247 car crashes involving fatalities on US roads. Certainly. However when a car accident happens it doesn’t spread to other cars driving down the same road. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBossy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, Me_ said: This turd doesn’t have a clue of what the hell is going on and how to lead the United-States through this crisis. None. Ummmm isn't the population of Seoul 10 million not 38 million - what an idiot he is lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Certainly. However when a car accident happens it doesn’t spread to other cars driving down the same road. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qa3-aF8rqc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Trebreh said: 2 weeks into quarantine and i look like a homo erectus... i need a hair cut badly. i recommend some body altering surgery as well did not know growing ones hair randomly has this much impact on the rest of the appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, samurai said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qa3-aF8rqc Tou-frickin-che. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MikeBossy said: Ummmm isn't the population of Seoul 10 million not 38 million - what an idiot he is lol Yep “I know South Korea better than anybody. It’s a very tight. You know how many people are in Seoul? You know how big the city of Seoul is? Thirty eight million people. That’s bigger than anything we have. Thirty eight million people all tightly wound together” Seoul is 9.7 million people. Trump thinks the Covid-19 peak is in about two weeks. No Trump. New York’s peak will be in two weeks. The US is as big as Europe. It will be a back and forth wave. Edited March 31, 2020 by Me_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, Me_ said: This turd doesn’t have a clue of what the hell is going on and how to lead the United-States through this crisis. None. Oh My Gawd Seriously...SERIOUSLY This is just so painful. Good luck America 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, samurai said: remember there are other ways to die Frightening Car Deaths Per Year Statistics for 2020 1.35 million people die in road accidents worldwide every year — 3,700 deaths a day. Car crashes have risen to the 8th leading cause of death for people globally. Saturday is estimated to be the deadliest day of the week for car crashes in the US. In 2017, there were a total of 34,247 car crashes involving fatalities on US roads. I would like to revisit these numbers in a few months. Say December 31st? See where we are in total Covid-19 deaths? You also have a choice to own a car, drive a car or not. With Covid-19, a simple hello to your granny can kill her. Turns out a simple hello to your niece can also kill her. Edited March 31, 2020 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Oh My Gawd Seriously...SERIOUSLY This is just so painful. Good luck America Soooooooo painful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, MikeBossy said: Ummmm isn't the population of Seoul 10 million not 38 million - what an idiot he is lol Someone on Twitter figured it out. The *elevation* of Seoul is 38 m. I.e., Trump, or someone preparing his remarks, Googled Seoul and mixed up the population with elevation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Oh My Gawd Seriously...SERIOUSLY This is just so painful. Good luck America Haha I tried watching it earlier and couldn't finish it. I'm serious. I just couldn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: Could you imagine that? Having your child turned away while sick from a hospital knowing that it was effectively a potential death sentence? The second amendment would come to fruition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, The Lock said: Haha I tried watching it earlier and couldn't finish it. I'm serious. I just couldn't. Same here pretty sure I had 47 brain cells commit suicide listening to that idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, Me_ said: I would like to revisit these numbers in a few months. Say December 31st? See where we are in total Covid-19 deaths? You also have a choice to own a car, drive a car or not. With Covid-19, a simple hello to your granny can kill her. Turns out a simple hello to your niece can also kill her. one major problem with your argument - you forget to consider kids, pedestrians, and cyclists. I am not even talking about the number of kids killed riding in cars. Do they have a choice on how they get to b from a? If you don't own a car like me you still have to use the roads either walking or on a bike. Pedestrian death rates are growing. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a31136893/pedestrian-deaths-increase-2019/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High and Inside Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, samurai said: remember there are other ways to die Frightening Car Deaths Per Year Statistics for 2020 1.35 million people die in road accidents worldwide every year — 3,700 deaths a day. Car crashes have risen to the 8th leading cause of death for people globally. Saturday is estimated to be the deadliest day of the week for car crashes in the US. In 2017, there were a total of 34,247 car crashes involving fatalities on US roads. Why compare it to other ways to die? It doesn’t replace its an additive. Not too mention mechanisms are in place to try and prevent car accidents from happening and if they do happen we can treat them. The virus is just a total onslaught that we have no defence for at the moment. Car accidents are relatively spread out and maybe barring a bad weather day they’ll be space in the ER to give care. In some cities with the coronavirus the amount will be many more patients then there is beds. Eventually you’ll have to go in a lottery to decide if you live or die. The coronavirus is a different game then the flu, a car accident or any other comparison. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, nucksnavsfan said: Don’t have one anywhere near me. what location? Maybe worth a road trip found some at the safeway at new west sky train station today. they only had 12 packs and it was limit 1 per customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushman Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market Chinese government researchers isolated more than 2,000 animal viruses, including deadly bat coronaviruses, and carried out scientific work on them just three miles from a wild animal market identified as the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. Several Chinese state media outlets in recent months touted the virus research and lionized in particular a key researcher in Wuhan, Tian Junhua, as a leader in bat virus work. The coronavirus strain now infecting hundreds of thousands of people globally mutated from bats believed to have infected animals and people at a wild animal market in Wuhan. The exact origin of the virus, however, remains a mystery. Reports of the extensive Chinese research on bat viruses likely will fuel more calls for Beijing to make public what it knows about such work. “This is one of the worst cover-ups in human history, and now the world is facing a global pandemic,” Rep. Michael T. McCaul, Texas Republican and ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said last week. Mr. McCaul has said China should be held accountable for the pandemic. A video posted online in December and funded by the Chinese government shows Mr. Tian inside caves in Hubei province taking samples from captured bats and storing them in vials. “I am not a doctor, but I work to cure and save people,” Mr. Tian says in the video. “I am not a soldier, but I work to safeguard an invisible national defense line.” Chinese officials have said the virus likely spread from wild animals to people at Wuhan’s Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, not far from the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the national center for China’s bat virus research. Wuhan is finally stirring back to life after a harsh crackdown on travel and street activity was imposed in late January. The city’s bus, subway and train systems started to run again over the weekend. Shops downtown were operating with some restrictions Monday, although customers were scarce. But British news accounts also reported over the weekend that some of the stalls at China’s so-called “wet” wild animal markets, as they reopen, have begun once again selling bats and scorpions and resumed questionable practices such as slaughtering small animals right at the site. Chinese officials refused to provide samples of its coronavirus strains to U.S. researchers shortly after the outbreak became public and did not allow international disease specialists to visit Wuhan for weeks. Handling bats The Chinese video “Youth in the Wild — Invisible Defender” records researchers engaged in casual handling of bats containing deadly viruses. The seven-minute film boasts that China has “taken the lead” in global virus research and uncovered over 2,000 viruses in the past 12 years, the time since the outbreak of the bat-origin virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). The deadly virus behind the current pandemic is called SARS Coronavirus-2 and also has been traced to bats. Prior to China’s discoveries, an estimated 2,284 types of viruses had been found in the previous 200 years, the video says. Chinese state media outlets revealed that Mr. Tian once failed to wear protective gear in a cave and as a result came into contact with bat urine. To avoid contracting a disease, he self-quarantined for 14 days — the same recommended period for people exposed to the new COVID-19 strain. Mr. Tian works for the office of decontamination and biological disease vector prevention and control within the Wuhan CDC. According to a May 2017 report by the Wuhan Evening News, Mr. Tian has gathered thousands of bats for research work on bat viruses since 2012. “Bats have a large number of unknown viruses on their bodies,” he said. “The more thorough our research on bats is, the better it will be for human health.” The researcher also has gathered viruses from ticks, mice and wasps. After the incident exposing him to bat urine, Mr. Tian said, he kept a safe distance from his wife. “As long as I am not getting sick during the incubation period of 14 days, I can be lucky to get away with it,” he said. The Wuhan report said the collection of research samples was difficult, dangerous and hard to fund. Shenzhen News, a publication of the Guangdong Communist Youth League, described in December how Mr. Tian shuttled through caves and jungles looking for viruses in bats and ticks, called “vector organisms,” in the quest to develop vaccines. The report said the nearly 2,000 viruses discovered in China over the past 12 years nearly doubled the total number of known viruses. A search of the Wuhan CDC website since the novel coronavirus outbreak contains no reference to Mr. Tian or his work. He has co-authored at least two scientific studies on the Wuhan virus and its impact. Efforts to reach Mr. Tian were not successful. A spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington did not return an email seeking comment. U.S. concerns A State Department official said the reports about Mr. Tian and his role in working with bat viruses are concerning. “He lives and works at Wuhan’s CDC, a few hundred yards away from the Huanan wet market,” the official said. “He is among the small team in Wuhan that has contributed to China’s obsession in recent years with virus hunting and research.” Some U.S. and international scientists have dismissed reports linking the new virus to one of China’s research labs. They insist the virus jumped naturally to humans and then began spreading from person to person. But others say a growing body of evidence indicates the virus may have been under study in a Chinese laboratory and escaped, either through an infection of a worker or through an infected lab animal. Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, a Rutgers University professor at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology, said the coronavirus behind the pandemic is 96.2% similar to a bat virus discovered by the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2013 and studied at the Wuhan CDC. The virus could have jumped naturally from animal to human but also could have escaped from the lab, he said. “Bat coronaviruses are collected and studied by laboratories in multiple parts of China — including Wuhan Municipal CDC and Wuhan Institute of Virology,” he told The Washington Times. “Therefore, the first human infection also could have occurred as a laboratory accident.” Until the recent outbreak, all but two coronaviruses in China were studied at biosafety level-2 (BSL-2) facilities — not the high-security BSL-4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — “which provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers,” he said. “Virus collection, culture, isolation or animal infection at BSL-2 with a virus having the transmission characteristics of the outbreak virus would pose high risk of accidental infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker, the public,” he said. Mr. Ebright said the Chinese video shows Wuhan CDC workers under Mr. Tian’s direction with inadequate personal protective equipment and unsafe practices, including exposed faces and wrists and a lack of goggles or face shields. Such practices “would pose substantial risk of infection with a virus having transmission properties similar to those of the outbreak virus,” he said. Mr. Ebright said the 2017 news report and 2019 video suggest several possibilities of accidental infection. They include accidental exposure in caves or field laboratories by those without proper protection, accidental infection during transit from caves or field laboratories, accidental infection inside the Wuhan CDC lab because of poor security, and accidental infection during shared work between the Wuhan CDC and the Wuhan Institute of Virology because of inadequate security at the CDC. Kenneth Plante, associate director at the World Reference Center for Emerging Viruses and Arboviruses at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, said he doubted the new virus came from a laboratory. “There’s a lot of conspiracy theories that this came out of a biocontainment facility and things of that sort,” he said last week. “But these viruses are closely related to bats. The actual mechanism of the reemergence of this virus was actually hypothesized back during the original SARS coronavirus,” he said. But Steven W. Mosher, a China specialist with the Population Research Institute, said China for years has been doing research, detailed in scientific journals, on horseshoe bat coronaviruses that could be harmful to humans. “They write about collecting SARS-like coronaviruses from horseshoe bats and proving that, like the SARS virus itself, some of these other naturally occurring coronaviruses could infect human beings directly,” Mr. Mosher said. “They write about genetically engineering new and deadly viruses capable of infecting human lung tissue — just like the Wuhan flu does.” Mr. Mosher called the Chinese government to disclose the research to help health officials cope with the coronavirus pandemic. “China claims that the deadly virus did not escape from its biolab,” Mr. Mosher said. “Fine. Prove it by releasing the research records of the Wuhan lab.” https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/ It's not racist to point out that the virus is China's fault CHINESE VIRUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, High and Inside said: Why compare it to other ways to die? It doesn’t replace its an additive. Not too mention mechanisms are in place to try and prevent car accidents from happening and if they do happen we can treat them. The virus is just a total onslaught that we have no defence for at the moment. Car accidents are relatively spread out and maybe barring a bad weather day they’ll be space in the ER to give care. In some cities with the coronavirus the amount will be many more patients then there is beds. Eventually you’ll have to go in a lottery to decide if you live or die. The coronavirus is a different game then the flu, a car accident or any other comparison. 1.35 million 'yearly' would also suggest a onslaught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, samurai said: 1.35 million 'yearly' would also suggest a onslaught. I gave you a trophy Now I give you a medal I want you to be happy Edited March 31, 2020 by Me_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Kushman said: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/ It's not racist to point out that the virus is China's fault CHINESE VIRUS It's also not wrong to point out you're promoting something you're not brave enough to admit to but... we sure can call your comment or limited intellect a Trumpism so meh. Maybe you're on to something Edited March 31, 2020 by Warhippy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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