Provost Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Squamfan said: To be clear, it wasn’t even the pro rated 25% of Savard’s actual salary. it is even smarter than that. Detroit unloaded Lashoff the other way who earns $275k in the minors to make it even less costly in terms of real dollars Then credit back the 20% escrow for the 25% of Savard to make the dollars even smaller. 25% of Savard’s salary is $1 million... only about 1/4 of the season left so that is about $250k give or take a little.. refund 20% escrow and that drops it to $200k. Then remove Lashoff salary (no idea how far the AHL is into their season for pro-rating it...they started later than the NHL but even say 1/4 that which was offloaded and that is about $70k savings for Detroit. So they bought a 4th rounder for about $100-150k. That doesn’t even take into account the 10% deferral in Savard’s salary that doesn’t have to get paid now, but has to be paid back eventually. Does anything really think Benning could imagine and pull off a move like that? He sure hasn’t shown it in 7 years. Edited April 10, 2021 by Provost 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Hmm retaining 50% for a 4th doesn’t seem right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Hmm retaining 50% for a 4th doesn’t seem right They didn’t, see my post above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ilduce39 Posted April 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2021 Honestly - why is Yzerman getting credit for this? It’s a Columbus - Tampa trade and his team is just there to grease the wheels - is there some kind of report where he brokered this thing that I’m missing? He was likely included because his history with Tampa, available cap space and the simple fact his team is among the least threatening to Tampa’s cup window. With all due respect to Yzerman who is a solid GM, I wonder how many 4th round picks will make up the ground of drafting Zadina over Hughes. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted April 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2021 Amazingly done bit of cap management by the bolts on this. But I'm curious how people can make every single movement in this league in to a non stop whine or complaint against the Canucks and still claim to be a fan of the team. Seems like life might be too short to spend the entirety of it finding new ways to be upset all the time 5 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 This is a lot of hard work and genius to get a 3 way win, doesn't happen very often, fair play to Stevie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Pretty creative 3 way trade. Tampa makes out like bandits getting Savard at that cap hit. Yzerman gets essentially a free pick because he has the cap space to do this type of deal and also moves out Lashoff. Pretty decent move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Amazingly done bit of cap management by the bolts on this. But I'm curious how people can make every single movement in this league in to a non stop whine or complaint against the Canucks and still claim to be a fan of the team. Seems like life might be too short to spend the entirety of it finding new ways to be upset all the time What he said...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 This trade is so slimy. Don't think this is gonna sit well with Bettman along with the new ltir loophole that Toronto and Tampa are employing. Watch Bettman close these up with the next cba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: This trade is so slimy. Don't think this is gonna sit well with Bettman along with the new ltir loophole that Toronto and Tampa are employing. Watch Bettman close these up with the next cba. The Canucks have to do it first and then they’ll penalize us and close the loophole. Dont you know how it works? 2 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Amazingly done bit of cap management by the bolts on this. But I'm curious how people can make every single movement in this league in to a non stop whine or complaint against the Canucks and still claim to be a fan of the team. Seems like life might be too short to spend the entirety of it finding new ways to be upset all the time We have a lot of whiners. Ridiculous how a pretty average 3 x 3.25 signing has some people wanting to cheer for Seattle. Disgusting. The cap circumvention is being unchecked for certain teams, while we got dinged hard for Luongo's cap. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dazzle said: We have a lot of whiners. Ridiculous how a pretty average 3 x 3.25 signing has some people wanting to cheer for Seattle. Disgusting. The cap circumvention is being unchecked for certain teams, while we got dinged hard for Luongo's cap. Pearson's contract by itself is fine, but when you have a gm that constantly and an established pattern of giving out contracts that are one year too long and one million too high and doesn't even show any hint of learning from those mistakes, that contract become an albatross and fireable offense. Also: Go Kracken Go! /s Edited April 11, 2021 by 24K PureCool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Fist Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, ilduce39 said: No he probably isn’t. It’s a 4th round pick going to a bottom feeder that’s likely to remain a bottom feeder for awhile. Relax. 2 hours ago, Squamfan said: Wizard bro. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, Dazzle said: We have a lot of whiners. Ridiculous how a pretty average 3 x 3.25 signing has some people wanting to cheer for Seattle. Disgusting. The cap circumvention is being unchecked for certain teams, while we got dinged hard for Luongo's cap. i think franzen cost detroit, parise and suters contracts is going downhill quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Dazzle said: We have a lot of whiners. Ridiculous how a pretty average 3 x 3.25 signing has some people wanting to cheer for Seattle. Disgusting. The cap circumvention is being unchecked for certain teams, while we got dinged hard for Luongo's cap. Those whiners aren’t fans, they’re babies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 24K PureCool said: This trade is so slimy. Don't think this is gonna sit well with Bettman along with the new ltir loophole that Toronto and Tampa are employing. Watch Bettman close these up with the next cba. What loophole? Vancouver has 3 players on LTIR so not sure to see where is the loophole. The way LTIR works is more of a detriment than anything else. GMs would prefer to simply remove the cap hit of those long term injuries. Teams often can’t get full relief for the injured player and end up losing some cap space for their regular roster by going into LTIR. StLouis lost 300K - ie they are operating at 81.2M max. Even Vancouver lost 10K. They lose flexibility. There were points this season (before Pettersson went on LTIR) where they technically couldn’t recall Juolevi from the taxi squad because of how cap space works for a recall under LTIR (- they lose the bonus cushion). LTIR also prevents teams from banking cap space so the performance bonuses get pushed into the following season. Canucks have 1.7M against their cap this season because last season they had to use LTIR. There’s at least 580K for Hughes being pushed into next because they are again in LTIR with Ferland, Pettersson, Beagle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesler_sedins Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Kucherov posted today on his Instagram himself at practice, which could be a sign he might return before the playoffs, thus his $9.5mill cap hit will also come back. What would Tampa do if he comes back before the playoffs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, mll said: What loophole? Vancouver has 3 players on LTIR so not sure to see where is the loophole. The way LTIR works is more of a detriment than anything else. GMs would prefer to simply remove the cap hit of those long term injuries. Teams often can’t get full relief for the injured player and end up losing some cap space for their regular roster by going into LTIR. StLouis lost 300K - ie they are operating at 81.2M max. Even Vancouver lost 10K. They lose flexibility. There were points this season (before Pettersson went on LTIR) where they technically couldn’t recall Juolevi from the taxi squad because of how cap space works for a recall under LTIR (- they lose the bonus cushion). LTIR also prevents teams from banking cap space so the performance bonuses get pushed into the following season. Canucks have 1.7M against their cap this season because last season they had to use LTIR. There’s at least 580K for Hughes being pushed into next because they are again in LTIR with Ferland, Pettersson, Beagle. The loophole comes in during the playoffs (or after the trade deadline?) where the there is no more cap. So essentially teams can trade players on ltir or have their star players on ltir and miraculously be ready for play in the playoffs that would put said team way above the cap. Essentially what Tampa is trying to pull this off season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Tampa doing Tampa things, must be nice having a player like Kucherov tucked away for when the playoffs start. Must be nice to be a league darling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Hedman Cernak Sergachev Savard McDonagh Foote Vasilevskiy That's not even fair... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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