lmm Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Gollumpus said: So, if Eriksson, Ferland and/or Virtanen ask for a trade, what of it? regards, G. So do you think we could trade those 3 if we added a 1st rounder with each? That'll speed this rebutcher right along, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, lmm said: So do you think we could trade those 3 if we added a 1st rounder with each? That'll speed this rebutcher right along, no? Errr which teams in their right mind would want any of 3 of those players lol. On top we wont have a 1st till 2025. Why u bustin my ballz here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Errr which teams in their right mind would want any of 3 of those players lol. On top we wont have a 1st till 2025. Why u bustin my ballz here Well Zona doen't have a 1st this year Jersey is a low cap team, and could use some verter..... I mean a pick we could be picking again in 2024 , but that was kinda my point we proabably win the lottery all 3 years are your ballz attached to Golump's ovaries or sump'in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, lmm said: Well Zona doen't have a 1st this year Jersey is a low cap team, and could use some verter..... I mean a pick we could be picking again in 2024 , but that was kinda my point we proabably win the lottery all 3 years are your ballz attached to Golump's ovaries or sump'in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, lmm said: So do you think we could trade those 3 if we added a 1st rounder with each? That'll speed this rebutcher right along, no? ferland will once again be on ltir and virtanen will have his contract terminated for conduct detrimental to the team. why would they pay to offload either? Edited May 21, 2021 by tas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, tas said: ferland will once again be on ltir and virtanen will have his contract terminated for conduct detrimental to the team. why would they pay to offload either? Agreed about Ferland. Jake will be a buy out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 17 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said: Oops lol hard habit to break. OEL at his contract is not an actual improvement though. He is just a cap anchor. Both Toffoli and Tanev stated that they had very little if any talks with Benning regarding their potential future with the team. But we are supposed to not believe them, right? Telling players to wait until you use up all your cap hoping you can clear some is a clear message to those players to get what they can elsewhere. Simple fact is Schmidt and Hamonic >> then Tanev and Stetcher. Tanev was offered a contract that worked for the team, same as Markstrom. 4 x 2 and who knows but obviously the sides weren't close for Markstrom either. Went with the younger goalie and made sure there was a vet back-up to hang for expansion. Best we'd get for Demko with the ED looming would be a heck of a lot less then we got for Schneider. Think Lack like. We don't know what the OEL deal would have looked like but i expect cap relief in LE leaving early or retention would have been part of it and also believe Demko was an ask and JB wouldn't cross that line. TT was a luxury we couldn't afford and yes that's on JB for the state of the current contracts. Any way you slice it. Was a rental, price paid in full. JV, our schedule, our division teams (we sucked against them even worse the previous season), EP going down, Covid... a lot of extra bs for the team and coaching staff to deal with - and for a while there without EP, the team turned it around. Most of the other great teams in the league had up and down seasons on the way to becoming great. COL and CAR. Re-tool gave us one last hurrah, finished 7th overall. 2017 finally some guys waived their clauses and the rebuild officially started. Three years and another playoff .... that's actually very decent. Expect more of the same for the next couple of years. Maybe we get in next year, maybe we don't - we almost certainly will the following year as long as our cap is used wisely. It's actually within the realm of reason that we start a run of playoff appearances next season too. EP breaking out would do that. Fourth years are when it usually happens. If not we'll PGP first line C is very decent anyways. Podz is a complete wild card. Supposedly a lot better then Hogs. If that's the case then we have an excellent top six now. Or the bones to start running three lines if we use Miller there. Guess we will find out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 hours ago, lmm said: So do you think we could trade those 3 if we added a 1st rounder with each? That'll speed this rebutcher right along, no? 7 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Errr which teams in their right mind would want any of 3 of those players lol. On top we wont have a 1st till 2025. Why u bustin my ballz here Nah, the Canucks need to keep their picks, so just throw in Hughes or Pettersson or Boeser and that'll get the job done.... The point I was getting at is this, if one or two players do ask for a trade then fine. Where there is any concern depends upon who are the players asking for a trade. The three I initially mentioned would not be overly upsetting to folks around here if they asked for a trade. If Hughes, Pettersson and/or Boeser asked for a trade.... regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gollumpus said: Nah, the Canucks need to keep their picks, so just throw in Hughes or Pettersson or Boeser and that'll get the job done.... The point I was getting at is this, if one or two players do ask for a trade then fine. Where there is any concern depends upon who are the players asking for a trade. The three I initially mentioned would not be overly upsetting to folks around here if they asked for a trade. If Hughes, Pettersson and/or Boeser asked for a trade.... regards, G. I knew that but as is common of the faithful, offering up the least desireable candidate nullifies the value of your statement it amounts to Ballard, Raymond and a 3rd offered in trade talks for Crosby it a pie-in-the-sky you might as well say, if Demko pitches a shutout every game next year, we don`t need to fix our holes in the defense or the 3-4 th lines both statements are true, neither are plausible my GF calls it `playing silly bugger` Edited May 21, 2021 by lmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, IBatch said: Simple fact is Schmidt and Hamonic >> then Tanev and Stetcher. Tanev was offered a contract that worked for the team, same as Markstrom. 4 x 2 and who knows but obviously the sides weren't close for Markstrom either. Went with the younger goalie and made sure there was a vet back-up to hang for expansion. Best we'd get for Demko with the ED looming would be a heck of a lot less then we got for Schneider. Think Lack like. We don't know what the OEL deal would have looked like but i expect cap relief in LE leaving early or retention would have been part of it and also believe Demko was an ask and JB wouldn't cross that line. TT was a luxury we couldn't afford and yes that's on JB for the state of the current contracts. Any way you slice it. Was a rental, price paid in full. JV, our schedule, our division teams (we sucked against them even worse the previous season), EP going down, Covid... a lot of extra bs for the team and coaching staff to deal with - and for a while there without EP, the team turned it around. Most of the other great teams in the league had up and down seasons on the way to becoming great. COL and CAR. Re-tool gave us one last hurrah, finished 7th overall. 2017 finally some guys waived their clauses and the rebuild officially started. Three years and another playoff .... that's actually very decent. Expect more of the same for the next couple of years. Maybe we get in next year, maybe we don't - we almost certainly will the following year as long as our cap is used wisely. It's actually within the realm of reason that we start a run of playoff appearances next season too. EP breaking out would do that. Fourth years are when it usually happens. If not we'll PGP first line C is very decent anyways. Podz is a complete wild card. Supposedly a lot better then Hogs. If that's the case then we have an excellent top six now. Or the bones to start running three lines if we use Miller there. Guess we will find out. Agree with most of this. If we could add a reliable 3C who can put up some points (or another scoring winger to roll three scoring lines with Miller at C) and a physical RHD for second or third pairing things look good going forward. I do feel Benning need helps from e.g. an experienced president and that our assistant coaches are not good enough for a contender (I think they are good with young players though), but maybe it makes sense to keep them all for a couple of seasons more until we actually (hopefully) are contenders, but well, that's another matter... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 17 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Haha, thinking disgruntled fans will affect anything is ridiculously naive. I never said they would, I simply said let's wait and see what the silent majority does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Strap Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 JB must has a secret tape on Francisco. Maybe the latter likes the pain of losing cause he hasn’t had enough after 7 years of it. Go Nucks Go!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Alflives said: Agreed about Ferland. Jake will be a buy out. I think Ferland getting injured has been one the biggest disappointment for me in the last couple of years. I was absolutely ecstatic when we signed him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dirtman said: I think Ferland getting injured has been one the biggest disappointment for me in the last couple of years. I was absolutely ecstatic when we signed him. Same. Woulda been a great signing if he was able to stay healthy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Dirtman said: I think Ferland getting injured has been one the biggest disappointment for me in the last couple of years. I was absolutely ecstatic when we signed him. The signing was risky AF but man would he look good in our middle 6 of he was healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: The signing was risky AF but man would he look good in our middle 6 of he was healthy. Agreed. He looked pretty good in his role in the few games he played. Oh well, can't do much about that now. I'd love to get Josh Anderson but I don't think that's very realistic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Alflives said: Agreed about Ferland. Jake will be a buy out. I’d hold that thought. I’m not jumping to conclusions but If things go sideways his contract could be terminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Same. Woulda been a great signing if he was able to stay healthy. I was like nooooooooooooooo both times he came back and immediately fought someone. I don’t know if that would have changed things but it might of been a better idea to hold off on fighting for awhile. What do you do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dirtman said: Agreed. He looked pretty good in his role in the few games he played. Oh well, can't do much about that now. I'd love to get Josh Anderson but I don't think that's very realistic. I’d love Anderson. That contract is a bit worrisome for me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Devron44 said: I’d love Anderson. That contract is a bit worrisome for me though I wonder what MacEwen's ceiling is. I hope we hang onto him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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