tas Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Why are you assuming someone cant actually be both? we're already doing this elsewhere, no reason to do it again here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, tas said: we're already doing this elsewhere, no reason to do it again here. Its a legit question though. I am curious why being a critic makes me less of a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convincing John Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 The only thing I’m surprised about is the enthusiasm after Jim said he was looking to acquire veteran scoring. I swear to god I’ve never seen a group of people with such debilitating memory loss. Miller is the only value scoring he has acquired. Everyone else is completely upside down in mortgage. The fact that he is even talking about such change indicates maximum desperation this summer which will result in maximum damage. He has no organizational surplus to exchange for a need. This will be a hacking a piece off the core off and trying to speed up the organic progression of that core piece by replacing it with a 28 year old who has 3 good years left. May god have mercy on the Vancouver Canucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Its a legit question though. I am curious why being a critic makes me less of a fan. being a fan takes faith. being a critic is borne of skepticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheCustodian Posted May 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Convincing John said: The only thing I’m surprised about is the enthusiasm after Jim said he was looking to acquire veteran scoring. I swear to god I’ve never seen a group of people with such debilitating memory loss. Miller is the only value scoring he has acquired. Everyone else is completely upside down in mortgage. The fact that he is even talking about such change indicates maximum desperation this summer which will result in maximum damage. He has no organizational surplus to exchange for a need. This will be a hacking a piece off the core off and trying to speed up the organic progression of that core piece by replacing it with a 28 year old who has 3 good years left. May god have mercy on the Vancouver Canucks. Miller, Vrbata, Pearson and Toffoli were all good acquisitions. The handling subsequent to the acquisition was the problem. If they had been able to hang onto Toffoli we wouldn't be in such a mess. Edited May 23, 2021 by TheCustodian 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, tas said: being a fan takes faith. being a critic is borne of skepticism. Having faith and having skepticism arent mutually exclusive though. And blind faith isnt what makes a fan. Giving a $&!# about the team is what makes a fan. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, tas said: being a fan takes faith. being a critic is borne of skepticism. 13 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Having faith and having skepticism arent mutually exclusive though. And blind faith isnt what makes a fan. Giving a $&!# about the team is what makes a fan. ********************************************************************* **********************POST OF THE MONTH******************* ********************************************************************* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Convincing John said: The only thing I’m surprised about is the enthusiasm after Jim said he was looking to acquire veteran scoring. I swear to god I’ve never seen a group of people with such debilitating memory loss. Miller is the only value scoring he has acquired. Everyone else is completely upside down in mortgage. The fact that he is even talking about such change indicates maximum desperation this summer which will result in maximum damage. He has no organizational surplus to exchange for a need. This will be a hacking a piece off the core off and trying to speed up the organic progression of that core piece by replacing it with a 28 year old who has 3 good years left. May god have mercy on the Vancouver Canucks. Desperation is the key word. That's the goal mandated by ownership. You can't achieve that with incoming youth. JB must make the play-offs or his a$$ is grass. This coming season is a short term reprieve. So JB will be looking for instant improvement, he can only do that by buying out all his past errors and giving himself room to acquire a goal scoring vet. As Wallstreetamigo pointed out JB may well trade his 1st round pick, don't be surprised. He may clear cap space but has nothing to make a trade with, no assets. Edited May 23, 2021 by Fred65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, RU SERIOUS said: ********************************************************************* **********************POST OF THE MONTH******************* ********************************************************************* You might be the only one who thinks so but I do appreciate the support haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Desperation is the key word. That's the goal mandated by ownership. You can't achieve that with incoming youth. JB must make the play-offs or his a$$ is grass. This coming season is a short term reprieve. So JB will be looking for instant improvement, he can only do that by buying out all his past errors and giving himself room to acquire a goal scoring vet. As Wallstreetamigo pointed out JB may well trade his 1st round pick, don't be surprised. He may clear cap space but has nothing to make a trade with, no assets. Yeah, a team only has two ways to improve more rostering tweaking or change of strategy through a coaching change. We all got the answer from the presser and with Greens re signing - more roster tweaking for cheaper & unknown lottery tickets (which the team has limited to supply due to past moves). Aggressive seems to really mean DESPERATION ! Edited May 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 58 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Having faith and having skepticism arent mutually exclusive though. And blind faith isnt what makes a fan. Giving a $&!# about the team is what makes a fan. Good take - is the lecture over ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Good take - is the lecture over ? Haha ya I dont like being told I am not a fan because I dont automatically think everything Benning does is perfect. I was a fan before Benning defected from Boston to come here and I will be a fan long after he is gone. Well, hopefully i will still be around then. Edited May 23, 2021 by wallstreetamigo 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convincing John Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Desperation is the key word. That's the goal mandated by ownership. You can't achieve that with incoming youth. JB must make the play-offs or his a$$ is grass. This coming season is a short term reprieve. So JB will be looking for instant improvement, he can only do that by buying out all his past errors and giving himself room to acquire a goal scoring vet. As Wallstreetamigo pointed out JB may well trade his 1st round pick, don't be surprised. He may clear cap space but has nothing to make a trade with, no assets. I have no doubt that in roughly a year from now the press conference will be conducted by FA. He will be explaining what he is looking for in his next GM. Only one more year. I can handle one more. Even though it’s going to probably basically restart the rebuild. We all favour our players, I do too. But even with the pieces we have here now, it’s not enough. We don’t have enough to be a Stanley cup contender. We still need a more. This aggressive step is the same mistake the flames made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Haha ya Are you now learned ? Edited May 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4quality Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 @wallstreetamigo my blind faith in the organization led me to my deepest skepticism. I'm really conflicted as a fan, I love the team, I like some of the players, I like Ian Clark, but yet I don't like the direction it's going. Talking about character players in the organization, like how the hell do you miss all the red flags with virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Are you now learned ? Doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: Doubtful I understand - been through it then crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Further refutation of one of the bs narratives that local media was pushing to gin up a sense of crisis: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/j-t-miller-will-not-ask-trade-no-intention-leaving-canucks/ Of course the team has some issues, but a player revolt isn't one of them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Convincing John said: I have no doubt that in roughly a year from now the press conference will be conducted by FA. He will be explaining what he is looking for in his next GM. Only one more year. I can handle one more. Even though it’s going to probably basically restart the rebuild. We all favour our players, I do too. But even with the pieces we have here now, it’s not enough. We don’t have enough to be a Stanley cup contender. We still need a more. This aggressive step is the same mistake the flames made. Ditto but I wonder what influences Aquamans decisions - season ticket holders = $ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convincing John Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Ditto but I wonder what influences Aquamans decisions - season ticket holders = $ ? I honestly believe they are too cheap to fire him. I seriously believe that’s why he still has a job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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