King Heffy Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, cuporbust said: So much for overpaying plugs for team culture hey boys? What a genius idea that was. Worked famously There's a happy medium. You don't want to be like Edmonton and bring in no leadership, resulting in your generational talent turning into a locker room cancer because no one was able to teach him how to play like a man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, King Heffy said: There's a happy medium. You don't want to be like Edmonton and bring in no leadership, resulting in your generational talent turning into a locker room cancer because no one was able to teach him how to play like a man. Ya, then there is signing J fn beagle for 3 million dollars a year lol. I won't even mention the others. That management group absolutely destroyed any positive things they did with the idiotic moves they made over and over. It was so crazy, people were like " they must have some sort of plan nobody can figure out". Lol. Nope . This is the long awaited results. Exactly as stupid as it seemed. In fact , it's probably even dumber than originally predicted. That's saying something. Complete incompetence. Wouldn't trust them to run a 711 nevermind a pro sports team. It's crazy. Edited November 3, 2022 by cuporbust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said: Where was the drama ? Cause from my POV, it started with your post, making assumptions and it continues with another childish post from you. Plus, you still didn't answer my questions and now you another one ? Drama would be whining and saying that you can't bear to watch this team when you clearly will. I genuinely felt sorry for you and was curious as to what team you were going to watch seeing as you couldn't bear to watch the Canucks. I took you at your word... that is childish to you? As for your question "Are you really ok, with the current state of the team, whilst some of the rebuilding teams are READY to turn the page: from rebuilding to contending ?" Of course I'm not ok with the current state of the team. I'm not however going to jump off a cliff and pretend that I'm not going to watch them anymore. I've been a canuck fan since I was 6 years old, during that time they have been rebuilding 80% of the time. This is literally what its like to be a canucks fan... not for the faint of heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, cuporbust said: So much for overpaying plugs for team culture hey boys? What a genius idea that was. Worked famously Those plugs would have been handy for the last 2 years if they didn’t age. Well except Loui that guy can frig off haha. No secret the PK went down the toilet though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, dougieL said: Am I to take it that you find 5 years of Loui at 6m followed by 6 years of OEL at 7.26m bearable? I wouldn't even compare those 2 contracts. Loui fell off the cliff so bad he was about 4 million overpaid. I would say oel is less than 2 million overpaid big difference there. Loui @15 mins a game vs OEL @ 22.5 mins a game is a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Alflives said: maybe our club isn’t as bad off as old Alfer thinks? How many moves until we can compete? 2-3? 3 makes sense. Bedard is the first move. Who's supposed to go first overall in the next couple years after this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Alflives said: I honestly don’t get our owner. Did his early success with Gillis make him think he knows how to build a winner? All we have is the result, under his leadership and the result has, no bias. Anyways, he won't change his mandate, until he see's it himself and to his own peril.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, coryberg said: Drama would be whining and saying that you can't bear to watch this team when you clearly will. I genuinely felt sorry for you and was curious as to what team you were going to watch seeing as you couldn't bear to watch the Canucks. I took you at your word... that is childish to you? As for your question "Are you really ok, with the current state of the team, whilst some of the rebuilding teams are READY to turn the page: from rebuilding to contending ?" Of course I'm not ok with the current state of the team. I'm not however going to jump off a cliff and pretend that I'm not going to watch them anymore. I've been a canuck fan since I was 6 years old, during that time they have been rebuilding 80% of the time. This is literally what its like to be a canucks fan... not for the faint of heart. "I genuinely felt sorry for you and was curious as to what team you were going to watch seeing as you couldn't bear to watch the Canucks." Your choice of words and your weak attempt at virtue signaling, tells me all I need to know about you and your age. I can almost predict what your next post will be - but I will wait. Sure, the Canucks history is full of mediocrity but accepting it as a norm, after 50+ years or almost 20 years under Aquaman - HAS ME FEELING SORRY FOR YOU, INSTEAD. Edited November 3, 2022 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 This trade, in hindsight looks bad. I liked it at the time, but have soured on it for sure. My blame is solely on OEL. The skills are there, the skating is there. He just looks weak and out of shape to me. Really curious where he finished in fitness testing at training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Are OEL and LE from the same part of Sweden? they must be best friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 On 7/24/2021 at 12:12 AM, Wolfgang Durst said: One of the worst trades in Canucks history. - only 12% retained of OEL's contract , that's a joke - 5.10 , 165lbs smallish forward - our 1st round pick involved - Roussel, Beagle + Eriksson contracts just one year left, could have wait one more year, but no , Canucks are IMPATIENT and RUSH THINGS OEL ' albatross contract is the worst thing what could have happened to VAN. Desperate move from a desperate GM. Congratulations. On July 24, 2021 I labeled this trade as one of the worst trades in Canucks history. Some smart fans - which includes me, of course - see the light long before other fans. Just sayin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, rekker said: This trade, in hindsight looks bad. I liked it at the time, but have soured on it for sure. My blame is solely on OEL. The skills are there, the skating is there. He just looks weak and out of shape to me. Really curious where he finished in fitness testing at training camp. Pretty sure with all the maintenance days he's been taking and looking like a shell of himself out there, that he's pretty clearly playing hurt. Whether that's from poor preparation or simply that hockey's a rough sport...who knows? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, aGENT said: Pretty sure with all the maintenance days he's been taking and looking like a shell of himself out there, that he's pretty clearly playing hurt. Whether that's from poor preparation or simply that hockey's a rough sport...who knows? Your right. He almost looks "Bambi legs" at times. Weather it's fatigue from poor preparation, or injury, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, rekker said: Your right. He almost looks "Bambi legs" at times. Weather it's fatigue from poor preparation, or injury, not sure. Probably something knee/groin/back... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Will OEL be bought out this summer? Cap implications would be this over the next 8 seasons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 10 hours ago, 250Integra said: Are OEL and LE from the same part of Sweden? they must be best friends This was predicted by almost everyone. This is not even slightly surprising (OEL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 19 hours ago, Maginator said: Will OEL be bought out this summer? Cap implications would be this over the next 8 seasons.. I would wait at least one more season after this one to buy him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, HC20.0 said: I would wait at least one more season after this one to buy him out If that's the case these would be the yearly buyout cost starting in 2024-25 Honestly not terrible. Short term pain for long term gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Maginator said: If that's the case these would be the yearly buyout cost starting in 2024-25 Honestly not terrible. Short term pain for long term gain. Short term pain would be riding out the storm and letting it play out. A cheaper alternate to a buy out could be the Canucks retaining 50% in a trade. It would mean 3.63 million in cap penalty for 3 Years (10,890,000 instead of 16,353,344). Not only that OEL at 3.63 would be a decent piece for a contender that could return some futures. This of course would hinge on OEL willing to waive his NTC and the Canucks willingness to eat salary. Would definitely be a much more palatable situation as opposed to the long term pain of a buyout. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I think it's safe to say that this was a bad trade. The fact OEL is in his 2nd season as a Canuck and talks of buy out has already started proves that. And Garland, I don't think, offsets enough to justify this trade at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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