J-23 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said: Rangers have 7M in cap space per cap friendly Could we do something like this: Miller 50% Retained Garland Schneider Lafreniere 1st add subtract pieces on whatever side needed? I know it’s been reported that NYR have shown interest in Garland as well. It seems like an extremely fair trade makes NYR absolutely untouchable and helps us in a few years. Idk. I really like Garland. And Miller. But it’s the cap era, and losing guys like OEL and Myers will kill us. I hope the team is seriously looking into something like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, BPA said: So… Miller (50%) + Motte + Garland + Schenn for Schneider + Chytil + Kakko + Lafreniere + Kratsov Lol Don't forget Halak for Georgiev too! And honestly, I'd probably take one of Robertson/Othmann/Barron over Kravstov. Realistically, we'd probably have to take some cap back in there as well haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, J-23 said: Well said, don’t like the let’s make the Playoffs and hope we get lucky idea. I want JR to build a powerhouse like the Avs or the Hawks back in the day. If we have to take a few steps back to get there I’m okay with that. Even FLA had to sidestep getting to where they are today. I totally agree. Cash in on value when other teams are desperate for your assets to win a Stanley cup. Those assets will be important when Petey Boeser and Hughes are hitting the winning age (27) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: But they didn’t then apparently, this was considered with the same potential as what you 3 guys are proposing. aGent Stawnzy and N4zzy I would try this though with the Rangers, Boeser, Halak for Scheider and Kravtsov. The Rangers may seriously not have any decent goaltending do a playoff run.. and Halak might waive his no move for that playoff opportunity. https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/rangers-win-doesnt-change-their-alex-georgiev-problem/ Boeser for Schneider? I mean, there are no reports that the Rangers have declined to include Schneider in a deal for Miller, but if Miller can't get Schneider, I don't think Brock can. A winger is less valuable than a centre, which Miller is. Halak for Kravstov I think the Rangers would be loathe to do that deal as well. Maybe for a mid to late pick for Halak. But not a promising top six player (potential at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Johnny Torts said: Rangers have 7M in cap space per cap friendly Could we do something like this: Miller 50% Retained Garland Schneider Lafreniere 1st add subtract pieces on whatever side needed? I know it’s been reported that NYR have shown interest in Garland as well. It seems like an extremely fair trade makes NYR absolutely untouchable and helps us in a few years. Idk. I really like Garland. And Miller. But it’s the cap era, and losing guys like OEL and Myers will kill us. Surprised that they would have interest in Garland. Their owner Dolan has been particularly concerned about their lack of size to make it through the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, mll said: Surprised that they would have interest in Garland. Their owner Dolan has been particularly concerned about their lack of size to make it through the playoffs. the owner may have his own opinions, but he has hired a hockey ops and management team to do the right thing. With that being said, i wonder what could come back this way for Garland. Could both Miller and Garland go to the Rangers? I mean, that’s quite the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coryberg Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Screw said: The team is simply not on a trajectory for long term success I fear. People have referenced the Bertuzzi trade as an example of a trade that hugely improved the team by giving up the better player for building blocks. My favourite example of this Type of deal is when Canucks traded Garth Butcher and Dan Quinn to St. Louis. In return the Canucks acquired Geoff Courtnall, Cliff Ronning Sergio Momesso and Robert Dirk. It's not a canuck trade but how about what Matt Duchene got? He was a 26 year old center with a year and a half left on his contract who was clearly not playing up to JT's current level but he was the creme of the crop for available centers at the time. Returned 6 pieces.... -a unprotected 1st (Bowen Byram) -a highly touted young prospect in Girard -a former 1st round prospect in Bowers -a former 2nd round prospect in Kamenev -a 2nd round pick -a 3rd round pick 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) On 1/31/2022 at 11:58 AM, aGENT said: To be fair, situation is vastly different. There was still a lot of questions around Eichel's health (still are in fact, even if slightly less now) and his very large cap hit. They were also in off season, not near the top of the league heading towards playoffs. And that link also states they weren't wanting to give up Lundqvist either, not just Schneider as you implied. None of that suggests that now in playoff position, with a very solid chance, that they wouldn't be willing to give up some of their over abundance of D depth for 2 runs with a healthy, productive, $5.25m (or less, with retention) Miller. Fair enough, however I still don’t see them trading Schneider, who I believe is being moulded into Trouba’s role sooner rather then later. Like I said, he’s probably their #1 prospects in their system and would likely take someone around their core age group to pry him out of New York in a trade. It would be like the equivalent to us in 2015 (?), trading Horvat for someone like Jeff Carter, at a run at the Cup. In the end, I think the Rangers are more likely to trade for a rental (my bet is Pavelski), who probably won’t cost as much as Miller. Edited February 4, 2022 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 hours ago, N4ZZY said: the owner may have his own opinions, but he has hired a hockey ops and management team to do the right thing. With that being said, i wonder what could come back this way for Garland. Could both Miller and Garland go to the Rangers? I mean, that’s quite the package. And that opinion led to the firing of Davidson and Gorton. He replaced them with Drury who he felt had a vision that aligned more with his. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 16 hours ago, HKSR said: You can't get rid of me that easily... I've wasted all week at work on these forums cuz my boss is away... once he's back, I'll leave lol Damnit... he's back... see you next time guys... lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, coryberg said: It's not a canuck trade but how about what Matt Duchene got? He was a 26 year old center with a year and a half left on his contract who was clearly not playing up to JT's current level but he was the creme of the crop for available centers at the time. Returned 6 pieces.... -a unprotected 1st (Bowen Byram) -a highly touted young prospect in Girard -a former 1st round prospect in Bowers -a former 2nd round prospect in Kamenev -a 2nd round pick -a 3rd round pick An unprotected 2023 1st round pick and a top prospect should be a price at minimum Edited February 4, 2022 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, shiznak said: It would be like the equivalent to us in 2015 (?), trading Horvat for someone like Jeff Carter, at a run at the Cup. How about trading Hodgson in 2011 for a top 6 center or top 4 dman? Would have all but guaranteed us a cup.... but Hodgson was our top prospect so I'm glad we didn't do it!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, coryberg said: How about trading Hodgson in 2011 for a top 6 center or top 4 dman? Would have all but guaranteed us a cup.... but Hodgson was our top prospect so I'm glad we didn't do it!!! Wasn’t that Hodgson for Reinhardt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 11 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Boeser for Schneider? I mean, there are no reports that the Rangers have declined to include Schneider in a deal for Miller, but if Miller can't get Schneider, I don't think Brock can. A winger is less valuable than a centre, which Miller is. Halak for Kravstov I think the Rangers would be loathe to do that deal as well. Maybe for a mid to late pick for Halak. But not a promising top six player (potential at least). yes, Boeser for Schneider Halak for Kravstov.. maybe we sweeten it a bit .. maybe not. Kravstov has asked for a trade. The Rangers backup goalies are not going to help them in Cup contention down the stretch.. that has been noted by New York press. Halak might be the perfect go to for them.. if he waives his stipulation. Schneider has been rumoured, and recently brought up from the AHL to “show”. https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/rangers-roundup-verbeek-named-ducks-gm-and-canucks-may-want-braden-schneider/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Well, with the needs the Rangers have, and the needs we have, maybe it's Miller, Motte and Halak for Kravtov, Kakko and Schneider. Either way, if we play this right, we are going to get some core future pieces. Future setup like this seems pretty nice for the long term: Kakko Pettersson Boeser Podkolzin Horvat Kravtsov Hughes Schneider OEL Myers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 hours ago, HKSR said: Damnit... he's back... see you next time guys... lol It's been fun. Good honest arguing. Never get that week back! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: It's been fun. Good honest arguing. Never get that week back! He's usually gone all summer, so perfect timing for free agency and draft day hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: yes, Boeser for Schneider Halak for Kravstov.. maybe we sweeten it a bit .. maybe not. Kravstov has asked for a trade. The Rangers backup goalies are not going to help them in Cup contention down the stretch.. that has been noted by New York press. Halak might be the perfect go to for them.. if he waives his stipulation. Schneider has been rumoured, and recently brought up from the AHL to “show”. https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/rangers-roundup-verbeek-named-ducks-gm-and-canucks-may-want-braden-schneider/ Zero chance you're getting Schneider for Boeser. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, stawns said: Zero chance you're getting Schneider for Boeser. Not to mentioned it makes the least sense out of any of the trade options. They have been linked to cost effective Miller and Garland, so sure let's send them a winger they have shown no interest in that's due a new contract. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, stawns said: Zero chance you're getting Schneider for Boeser. The included combination of Halak as a bonefide back up goalie might hold some weight over that.. I also stated perhaps we add to Boeser / Halak for Kravstov / Schneider to make it happen. I never stated one for one player Stawnzy. The full sum of trades can outweigh the shiny bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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