Junkyard Dog Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Just now, NHL97OneTimer said: How does Toffoli keep getting shipped around?!!! He's been traded only twice in his career and the first time was as a rental with us two seasons ago. Hardly a guy bouncing around. MTL is just having a historically bad year toppled with the loss of Price and Weber. Their number #1 D and G. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Just now, Junkyard Dog said: He's been traded only twice in his career and the first time was as a rental with us two seasons ago. Hardly a guy bouncing around. MTL is just having a historically bad year toppled with the loss of Price and Weber. Their number #1 D and G. This was a very good deal for the Habs. Now Caufield can get those Tofoli top line minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: This was a very good deal for the Habs. Now Caufield can get those Tofoli top line minutes. Not bad in the sense that he was a free agent signing and they’re moving him for picks and youth. Signings and deals like these help speed up the rebuilds. Can’t believe Montreal made it to the finals last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 minute ago, flickyoursedin said: Not bad in the sense that he was a free agent signing and they’re moving him for picks and youth. Signings and deals like these help speed up the rebuilds. Can’t believe Montreal made it to the finals last year. When you have a goalie like Price + captain and Dman like Shea freaking Weber it's not really surprising. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 minute ago, WHL rocks said: When you have a goalie like Price + captain and Dman like Shea freaking Weber it's not really surprising. Those two guys are good but if you could insert them into their lineup right now I doubt they’re much better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
‹(•¿•)› Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, nameci said: I just took a quick look through the Devil’s fan forum and the consensus seems to be to ship out Zacha and that anything they received in return would be a bonus. Not many Zacha fans on the board. Yeah, I agree, don't think it would take much to get Zacha. They might even take Dickinson for Zacha straight up just to get the cost certainty. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameci Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 WHL Rocks. No link, just typed in New Jersey Fan Forum and started reading comments about Zacha. Comments about Severson being a disaster in his own end were plentiful as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, nameci said: WHL Rocks. No link, just typed in New Jersey Fan Forum and started reading comments about Zacha. Comments about Severson being a disaster in his own end were plentiful as well. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Those two guys are good but if you could insert them into their lineup right now I doubt they’re much better. Yeah that's a fair assumption on your part. How about Canucks. Could you believe they made it that far in the bubble... Teams get hot and gell.. No 2 teams are the same... Habs were in the finals because they deserved ot and earned it.. that's the beauty of sport.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, ‹(•¿•)› said: Yeah, I agree, don't think it would take much to get Zacha. They might even take Dickinson for Zacha straight up just to get the cost certainty. They'll also have cost certainty and even more cap space if they simply don't qualify Zacha. There's no real reason for them to take back Dickinson. Canucks are also only 1 of several teams interested in Zacha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I like the idea of Zacha a guy who can (probably) play heavier kind playoff hockey…good hands I’m not saying he’s rough but we need these kinda players but not a “Seabass” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 9 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Bigger doesn’t mean more physical. It has to be the right type of player that has the size, and the mentality to play physically. The NHL is littered with “big” players who don’t play physical, but are softer than butter. Their size is all for nothing. Yes... but that was hardly what they were on about. The team is getting bullied... They want players with size and physicality that can play hockey with speed.... Only problem with that is, so does the rest of the league. You can have a few 'lighter' players in the line up, but they have to be well worth it with other aspects of their game. Regardless, not my words but JR's... For starters we need a big crease clearing D man, who can actually hurt people... And one or two forwards like that as well... In saying all that we have a lightweight 4th line, who has been very impressive... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
‹(•¿•)› Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 13 hours ago, mll said: They'll also have cost certainty and even more cap space if they simply don't qualify Zacha. There's no real reason for them to take back Dickinson. Canucks are also only 1 of several teams interested in Zacha. I think the overall perception of Dickinson around the league is better than it is in Vancouver. He's still seen as a strong defensive forward, who's just been a poor fit here. He impressed a lot of people during the 2020 playoffs. Regardless, I think people are over-valuing Zacha if they're throwing out names like Boeser and Garland. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Zacha would look great on this team, and he falls into JR’s comments about getting bigger and faster. Great Skater, positions well, strong on boards with really good skills, shot, and release. im putting his goal hilights from last season up for those who haven't seen it. My opinion is he could be an upgrade from Boeser given the same opportunities Boeser has.…. perhaps that’s the mindset behind the Canucks interest given Boeser has a 7m qualifying offer. Why even deal with that possibly going to arbitration and Deal Boeser elsewhere for a good pick or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Zacha would look great on this team, and he falls into JR’s comments about getting bigger and faster. Great Skater, positions well, strong on boards with really good skills, shot, and release. im putting his goal hilights from last season up for those who haven't seen it. My opinion is he could be an upgrade from Boeser given the same opportunities Boeser has.…. perhaps that’s the mindset behind the Canucks interest given Boeser has a 7m qualifying offer. Why even deal with that possibly going to arbitration and Deal Boeser elsewhere for a good pick or more. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he looks like he has untapped offensive potential. You can see it in his shot, and the way he handles the puck in tight. His skating looks good too. He was on pace for 57 points last year, and I bet given the right opportunities, he could probably be a 65pt man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he looks like he has untapped offensive potential. You can see it in his shot, and the way he handles the puck in tight. His skating looks good too. He was on pace for 57 points last year, and I bet given the right opportunities, he could probably be a 65pt man. Would you agree a possible upgrade on Boeser , if given the same opportunities as Boeser? His positioning , movement, and confidence on the pp , says “yes” to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: Would you agree a possible upgrade on Boeser , if given the same opportunities as Boeser? His positioning , movement, and confidence on the pp , says “yes” to me. I'd say so... if not, at least an equal... for a lot less in terms of cap hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'd say so... if not, at least an equal... for a lot less in terms of cap hit. According to their fans he has ample time in the top of the lineup and couldn't pull it together. Unless you have watch him enough to form an educated opinion, I highly suggest reading what his own teams fans think about him https://www.reddit.com/r/devils/comments/sq8b1m/friedman_reports_that_there_is_interest_in_zacha/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/devils/comments/st0x6m/friedman_on_zacha_trade_situation/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share I'm totally cool with taking a flyer on him, but this guy is not a Boeser replacement right now. Not even close. There is a slim chance a change of scenery could do him wonders, but I think he's being overrated around here by people who haven't seen him play enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'd say so... if not, at least an equal... for a lot less in terms of cap hit. Devils have 7m+ in capspace, and if their fans or team think Zacha is a lesser player than Boeser, id do : Boeser ( rids us of that potential 7m qualifying offer) for Zacha (2.25 RFA) and D prospect Shakir Mukhamadulin (975k) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, Shayster007 said: According to their fans he has ample time in the top of the lineup and couldn't pull it together. Unless you have watch him enough to form an educated opinion, I highly suggest reading what his own teams fans think about him https://www.reddit.com/r/devils/comments/sq8b1m/friedman_reports_that_there_is_interest_in_zacha/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/devils/comments/st0x6m/friedman_on_zacha_trade_situation/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share I'm totally cool with taking a flyer on him, but this guy is not a Boeser replacement right now. Not even close. There is a slim chance a change of scenery could do him wonders, but I think he's being overrated around here by people who haven't seen him play enough. He was on a 55 point pace last year and is struggling this year a bit, but isn't that far off garland and boeser, so I wouldn't say he can't get it together. As has been said, it wouldnt be one for one, it would be zacha plus something significant most likeky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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