Fred65 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Alflives said: 9 goals and 9 assists in 20 games. Kuz is contributing way above his contract. We need to do a full dumperoo of Garland so we can afford to keep Kuz. I was thinking the same, we must move some one out to make way for Kuz. Either Graland ( $5 mill ) or Boeser ( $6.5 mill )I doubt he'll come cheap. The other constraint Rutherford has is he stated during an interview, that " we have some good ones coming" (D) which limits who he can sign today to add a D'man immediately. As much as it saddens me to say this I'm thinking Bear ( Dermot either ) may not be resigned. H'e s good now but it sound like Rutherford have cheaper option that he believes in for next season. Maybe Filip Johansson ( playing in the SEL ) and by all accounts doing well ( I've never seen him play ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 2:10 PM, -AJ- said: Won't he be a UFA, given that he'll be 27 by the end of the year? I'm not sure he'll want a bridge, though that would be nicer for us. I'd be surprised if he went for a bridge, it'd be a dumb on his part imo. He'll be 27 in February and this may be his one opportunity to get a larger money deal with good term on it, his agent should probably push him to cash in on it. If he continues to produce and puts up top six level production he'll be very in demand with the cap supposedly set to jump a good chunk, lot of teams would probably be interested. I don't think we'll be able to afford him, if we're out of it closer to the deadline he should probably be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 I hate to say this, because I love the guy. As someone mentioned earlier, he is not afraid to go to the net, and we do not have many that have the timing to do that........ I think he is scoring at the rate he is because he is with Pettersson and PP, and would probably drop a little on a lesser line.................. So.............Trade and take the picks or 7 years at $4,750,000...........it's a risk, yes! But I think it would work for both sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: 7 years at $4,750,000. If he shows that he can maintain the same pace up to the trade deadline, I would be fine with a 7yr $4,750,000 term and dollar value. Cap is said to be going up substantially so this would, IMO, be a very good deal for the Canucks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: I hate to say this, because I love the guy. As someone mentioned earlier, he is not afraid to go to the net, and we do not have many that have the timing to do that........ I think he is scoring at the rate he is because he is with Pettersson and PP, and would probably drop a little on a lesser line.................. So.............Trade and take the picks or 7 years at $4,750,000...........it's a risk, yes! But I think it would work for both sides. Do we need to fully dumperoo Garland first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, Alflives said: Do we need to fully dumperoo Garland first? I gotta plan Alf..................yeah, a plan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: I gotta plan Alf..................yeah, a plan! Not “day to day”? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Muttley said: It would be interesting if the Team replied to tweets like this with a downward arrow, every time Kuz goes pointless or gives up a bad turnover. Maybe agents would stop playing the stupid tweet game, and do their business like professionals. TLDR- I'm not a fan of media and fan manipulation. Do your job, quietly and with class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, Gurn said: It would be interesting if the Team replied to tweets like this with a downward arrow, every time Kuz goes pointless or gives up a bad turnover. Maybe agents would stop playing the stupid tweet game, and do their business like professionals. TLDR- I'm not a fan of media and fan manipulation. Do your job, quietly and with class. Couldn't agree more. These Player agents and the media remind me of the old ambulance chasers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Muttley said: He wants $3m x 3? Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, Chickenspear said: He wants $3m x 3? Sure. Do a full dumperoo of Garland and offer the “Kus Missile” five x five. Get off the park bench JR and get ‘er done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Gurn said: It would be interesting if the Team replied to tweets like this with a downward arrow, every time Kuz goes pointless or gives up a bad turnover. Maybe agents would stop playing the stupid tweet game, and do their business like professionals. TLDR- I'm not a fan of media and fan manipulation. Do your job, quietly and with class. That would certainly inspire loyalty and encourage him to re-sign with the team. Do you find that people are easier to negotiate with if you slap them in the face first? I would normally only do that if I have them over a barrel. Edited November 29, 2022 by WeneedLumme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said: That would certainly inspire loyalty and encourage him to re-sign with the team. Do you find that people are easier to negotiate with if you slap them in the face first? I would normally only do that if I have them over a barrel. Maybe ask the agent how this type of thing helps? After all, it seems to be how this guy does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Perhaps we're reading too much into his tweet? After all, to say something is "money" is simply to say it was great or amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I think the tweet probably suggests that Kuz is "money" on a breakaway or OT, doubt any agent would be that blatant and disrespectful. Kuz is on a 2PPG rate in his last 5 games but had a really quiet stretch too, and is playing on the wing of one of the smartest centers in the league. I think he's worth 6M max - he doesn't defend or kill penalties or hit that much, he just scores, and does offence very well. Boeser's deal was wrongly inflated a bit by his RFA status but a PPG player is probably worth around 6-7ish million nowadays. You've got to think there's a little discount for helping him settle into Northern America and surrounding him with Russians. 6 x 6 in a heart beat if he continues this play all year. To make it happen, you get rid of Garland and Pearson easily, that's 8.2M right there. I've said it before but Garland straight up for Peeke and Pearson fora 4th and we could still fit 6M worth of Kuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, DownUndaCanuck said: , doubt any agent would be that blatant and disrespectful I think you missed Miller's agent and his "Show me the money" tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gurn said: I think you missed Miller's agent and his "Show me the money" tweet? And every other agent to ever walk the earth lol. Agents are scum. They do scummy things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 19 hours ago, Chickenspear said: He wants $3m x 3? Sure. If he continues to score at a ppg pace - some GM will certainly pay him that if not much more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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