Undrafted Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: Yeah, of course, cuz Russia has such a history of fair judicial treatment. There's a major difference between the type of injustice critics and opponents of Putin and Kremlin face and what's going on with these specific athletes. In the case of those in Samigullin's circle, there is actual malfeasance involved--like I said, it's analogous to Kane's use of fake vaccination card. The main thing I'm trying to stress is that Podkolzin and Kuzmenko (and most other Russian hockey players) are not in danger of suffering the same fate, as was the original concern when the Fedotov story first broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Undrafted said: There's a major difference between the type of injustice critics and opponents of Putin and Kremlin face and what's going on with these specific athletes. In the case of those in Samigullin's circle, there is actual malfeasance involved--like I said, it's analogous to Kane's use of fake vaccination card. The main thing I'm trying to stress is that Podkolzin and Kuzmenko (and most other Russian hockey players) are not in danger of suffering the same fate, as was the original concern when the Fedotov story first broke. I appreciate your input; thank you very much for that. However, I do not believe there is no further danger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRookieFan Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Thing is at this level of wealth as NHL players are making "5 mill +" you are hiring body guards. Just two bodyguards will cost you 150k each but are affordable at that salary. With 2 guards protecting you at all times, tasting your food, checking your vehicle etc you are safe. Of course Russia is mad but they can't do much to a protected source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 minute ago, CanuckRookieFan said: Thing is at this level of wealth as NHL players are making "5 mill +" you are hiring body guards. Just two bodyguards will cost you 150k each but are affordable at that salary. With 2 guards protecting you at all times, tasting your food, checking your vehicle etc you are safe. Of course Russia is mad but they can't do much to a protected source. Then the KGB offers one of the bodyguards $1 million US. And boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Hasn't he served his military service though? But yeah, it sucks. Sucks for players who just wanna play somewhere that isn't Russia, or for prospects who've grown up during a time where Russians regularly get drafted and go on to NHL careers. In the end they're just more people who suffer because of Putin and co's ego's, Russian or not. I was trying to figure out if Podkolzin had done his military service. It is only one year and, under some circumstances, it can be done while playing hockey but I do not see an obvious time when Podkolzin served. According to his agent, Kuzmenko is ok, So presumably he has done his service or has a legitimate exemption. Hope everything is ok for these players. But I don't want to lose perspective. It more important for the Russian invasion of Ukraine to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon.Duck Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Especially when the rest of the NHL didn't know he was available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, JamesB said: I was trying to figure out if Podkolzin had done his military service. It is only one year and, under some circumstances, it can be done while playing hockey but I do not see an obvious time when Podkolzin served. According to his agent, Kuzmenko is ok, So presumably he has done his service or has a legitimate exemption. Hope everything is ok for these players. But I don't want to lose perspective. It more important for the Russian invasion of Ukraine to end. Oh def, hockey doesn't even remotely compare in terms of importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Putin can F off and die already. A heart attack would be too kind for that weasel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Just now, rekker said: Putin can F off and die already. A heart attack would be too kind for that weasel. I believe the real danger is Putin using nukes or bio because his World War 2 equipment and strategies are just not working and his new armaments are rapidly depleting. He is clearly insane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Especially when the rest of the NHL didn't know he was available. I thought Detroit would have drafted him if we hadn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, mll said: Reminds me of the now-ancient, "All quiet on the Western front." Like: for now; and 'as far as we know' etc; it's not good enough If I had any say in any of this, I would be getting everybody and their families out asap. Young men in Russia are going to die before the world gets rid of this scourge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: Reminds me of the now-ancient, "All quiet on the Western front." Like: for now; and 'as far as we know' etc; it's not good enough If I had any say in any of this, I would be getting everybody and their families out asap. Young men in Russia are going to die before the world gets rid of this scourge. "I understood it to be true." "I might have misunderstood..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce000 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) Kaprizov gonna be ducking anyone wearing a leather jacket. Edited July 6, 2022 by Bounce000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Lamora Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I warned folks here on CDC months ago not to dismiss this stuff from happening in Russia in regards to their star athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I might be in the minority here. But if there's a way to get Minni's 1st round pick in 2023....I'd be looking at it. No Fiala, No Kaprizov. Go get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I might be in the minority here. But if there's a way to get Minni's 1st round pick in 2023....I'd be looking at it. No Fiala, No Kaprizov. Go get it Kaprizov is already back in the US. He fled back to the United States already. But yeah, Minny is a team I'd bet against in 2023 regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Quantum said: Kaprizov is already back in the US. He fled back to the United States already. But yeah, Minny is a team I'd bet against in 2023 regardless. Didn’t his agent dispute that already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Quantum said: Kaprizov is already back in the US. He fled back to the United States already. But yeah, Minny is a team I'd bet against in 2023 regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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