SilentSam Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Bear is consistent, and top notch.. that’s all you can ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Kings Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 12:49 AM, BCNate said: Credit where credit is due. This was a great trade. Bear has been a very solid addition to this D core. I hope that we re sign him, but if we don't and have to deal him at the deadline, he will certainly get a bigger return than the 5th we paid for him. but you have to look at the Bear trade and the Dickenson trade as a whole. It's the latter trade that created the cap space, and it cost the Canucks a 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 11/1/2022 at 8:14 AM, Wolfgang Durst said: a medical check is mandatory for all soccer players whenever they join a new team in Europe. Not sure if there is something comparable in hockey in North America. Found the following report on the internet about Ethan Bear's health issues: Bear was given permission to talk with other teams, but in the end he was able to work something out with Carolina. He's coming off a difficult season where he scored five goals and 14 points in 58 contests while averaging 16:05 minutes. Some of his struggles might be due to long COVID, which he previously stated might be the cause of some breathing problems he's experienced. When he first established himself with Edmonton in 2019-20, he averaged 21:58 minutes. With this contract, the hope is that he'll be able to get healthy and bounce back. Do you remember why Edmonton let him go? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Not a bad return for a 5th round pick so far 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuxfanabroad Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: Not a bad return for a 5th round pick so far Combined with the CHI-deal, actually quite pleased. Just heard the 650 radio guys inform Stillman is eligible for the nickles/dimes buyout(under 25 yrs). Just 2 yrs of 200k So we dumped Dickinson & picked up 2 good young skaters - not too shabby! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Combined with the CHI-deal, actually quite pleased. Just heard the 650 radio guys inform Stillman is eligible for the nickles/dimes buyout(under 25 yrs). Just 2 yrs of 200k So we dumped Dickinson & picked up 2 good young skaters - not too shabby! Yes, his buyout is $225k for 2 years, so a no brainer really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Bear was a healthy scratch last night? Due to poor play in the coaches eye or the commments he made about the team? To set an example it should have been Myers getting scratched instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Neutral said: Bear was a healthy scratch last night? Due to poor play in the coaches eye or the commments he made about the team? To set an example it should have been Myers getting scratched instead... Or OEL. Stillman was terrible last game as well. And why was Myers getting played with Quinn so much. It was a disaster every time they were on the ice together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: Or OEL. Stillman was terrible last game as well. And why was Myers getting played with Quinn so much. It was a disaster every time they were on the ice together. how was stillman terrible? I saw hom make some good plays and didn't notice many serious gaffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Combined with the CHI-deal, actually quite pleased. Just heard the 650 radio guys inform Stillman is eligible for the nickles/dimes buyout(under 25 yrs). Just 2 yrs of 200k So we dumped Dickinson & picked up 2 good young skaters - not too shabby! Not sure Stillman gets bought out. They continue to play him, so either they like something about his play or they're trying to boost his value for a TDL trade. But if it does work out to be a cap clearing move, then yes it certainly helps to have that option. With that said, say we buy him out and replace him with Rathbone, the saving is really only about 1-1.5 million which is great, but a 2nd seems a bit steep still for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 11:23 AM, Boudrias said: Do you remember why Edmonton let him go? I'm pretty sure the racism incident in Edmonton that he was affected by had something to do with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 4:35 PM, The King of Kings said: but you have to look at the Bear trade and the Dickenson trade as a whole. It's the latter trade that created the cap space, and it cost the Canucks a 2nd round pick. and they got a young, developing rhd in that deal too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Just heard the 650 radio guys inform Stillman is eligible for the nickles/dimes buyout(under 25 yrs). Just 2 yrs of 200k 5 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes, his buyout is $225k for 2 years, so a no brainer really. Buying him out would cost us $450k in total cap (225k x 2 years) sending him down to Abbotsford would only cost $200k total cap (1.35mil minus the 1.15mil buried salary). We would also have an NHL vet as a depth piece on the farm... or heaven forbid someone claims him 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 This trade looks great for us. The 2023 5th rounder is unlikely to amount to the impact that Bear + Pederson has done so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, coryberg said: Buying him out would cost us $450k in total cap (225k x 2 years) sending him down to Abbotsford would only cost $200k total cap (1.35mil minus the 1.15mil buried salary). We would also have an NHL vet as a depth piece on the farm... or heaven forbid someone claims him he would create a safe working environment for our kids in abby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: This trade looks great for us. The 2023 5th rounder is unlikely to amount to the impact that Bear + Pederson has done so far. totally agree, great pro scouting...un like the still man situation but wy was Bear scratched? sucks trying to drive down his value for RFA negotiations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Dazzle said: This trade looks great for us. The 2023 5th rounder is unlikely to amount to the impact that Bear + Pederson has done so far. Pederson alone was traded for a 4th round pick before. Crazy that Carolina also retained salary. The Dickinson trade was annoying but its not like it was particularly bad value. Patrik Nemeth had 2 years / 2.5 per remaining and cost two second round picks to unload. Stillman, while he has kinda sucked, might have had some value as a young physical dman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 hours ago, coryberg said: Buying him out would cost us $450k in total cap (225k x 2 years) sending him down to Abbotsford would only cost $200k total cap (1.35mil minus the 1.15mil buried salary). We would also have an NHL vet as a depth piece on the farm... or heaven forbid someone claims him True, but Aquilini would have to pay his full salary while Stillman is in the minors for a year. So, the buyout would be cheaper for the owner plus it frees up a spot for a younger guy to play in Abby. Don't think we want Stillman taking up a spot in Abby for a year. If he can show he can play at the NHL level for the rest of this year, then you keep him for another year. If not, the buyout is a no brainer if they want to bring in someone else to replace him in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Combined with the CHI-deal, actually quite pleased. Just heard the 650 radio guys inform Stillman is eligible for the nickles/dimes buyout(under 25 yrs). Just 2 yrs of 200k So we dumped Dickinson & picked up 2 good young skaters - not too shabby! Just let the contract expire and bury what you can in the minors. Any kind of dead cap longer than one year is grounds for firing the entire management group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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