canuck73_3 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: Garland for Roslovic? We save on cap with that move and get a younger right shot center. I’d like Roslovic coming back a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 They are not moving Johnson or Jiricek. They are also last in the league right now, definitely not moving that 1st. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Kenny Powers said: Here’s a recent prospects ranking from the Columbus message board: 1. Kent Johnson (LW/C)2. David Jiricek (D)3. Kirill Marchenko (LW/RW)4. Denton Mateychuk (D)5. Corson Ceulemans (D)6. Daniil Tarasov (G)7. Nick Blankenburg (D)8. Luca Del Bel Belluz (C)9. Stanislav Svozil (D)10. Liam Foudy (C/LW)11. Dmitri Voronkov (LW)12. Guillaume Richard (D)13. Mikael Pyyhtia (C)14. Jordan Dumais (RW)15. Samuel Knazko (D)16. Kirill Dolzhenkov (RW)17. Aidan Hreschuk (D)18. Jacob Christiansen (D)19. Sergei Ivanov (G)20. Nikolai Makarov (D) I would think Jiricek is their number 1 prospect. Given where he was drafted, his pedigree and how well he's looked at his age, plus his position. If we are trading Bo Horvat to them I would hope we are getting a blue chip back one of Jiricek or Johnson. Which I doubt we would. So we would probably get: Roslovic, 1st, Ceulemons IF we were trading them Miller getting Kent Johnson would be great return for miller 1 for 1 honestly and with Nyqvist back or whatever they want. But Miller for a 1st and Ceulemons with Nyqvist I do in a heart beat too. I dont know Kent Johnson might not be a C and when it comes to defensively minded he is not. He is a great playmaker though something Bo is not. But I think he will be a winger long term. In a scenario we were able to get him and say we tanked for Bedard. Having Bedard-Johnson duo would be something else. Would need a Mikehyev or a power forward type with them I think. (Head in clouds dreaming) I could see a trade with Columbus happening though for sure. With one of Miller / Horavt they have a lot of pieces to move on RD and C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, J-23 said: They are not moving Johnson or Jiricek. They are also last in the league right now, definitely not moving that 1st. A 2nd from them in this draft would also have high value. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: They can if we take Voracek back this season and next for an $8.2m rapidly declining asset? I'd rather not, personally. Maybe for Miller, but not Horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, J-23 said: They are not moving Johnson or Jiricek. They are also last in the league right now, definitely not moving that 1st. Thinking it is more of a Garland/Myers move more than Bo or JT. would be odd to be a big buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, canuck73_3 said: Thinking it is more of a Garland/Myers move more than Bo or JT. would be odd to be a big buyer. Yep, but CDC is setting itself up for disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Kings Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Unless he wants out, I'm not buying that Horvat is on the market. Regardless, CBJ is right up against the cap and won't be able to afford either of them The same thing can be said for Miller too, especially he and the Canucks were actually committed to each other long term this summer. How come so many people are suggesting Miller in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, stawns said: this season and next for an $8.2m rapidly declining asset? I'd rather not, personally. Maybe for Miller, but not Horvat It's not as bad as it looks tbh. While being the asset they'd need to move out it's not as if we couldn't benefit from taking Voracek on. For example, Voracek but up 62 points in 79 games as a BJ last season. 6 points in 11 games this season. Say we take him back as part of a package for Bo or Miller, not only is he a short term asset but we could retain 50% and flip him out this season or next if he continues to produce. And if he doesn't, well, it's just one more season after this one. Short term headache, potential assets back for Horvat or getting out of 7x8M in Miller. Taking Voracek back to make a trade happen is a no brainer imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, The King of Kings said: The same thing can be said for Miller too, especially he and the Canucks were actually committed to each other long term this summer. How come so many people are suggesting Miller in this thread? Management has already made their decision with Miller…I would be shocked if any team takes him off our hands. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I’d like Roslovic coming back a lot. Yup. save a bit on cap and term, while getting a right shot center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Wonder if it would be a Garland deal, with rumblings he’s not too popular in the room apparently? Where did you hear this? Not trying to attack you, just curious as it's the first I've heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, x00x said: bo's young, why not? hes a good player (of coarse not enough to turn things around, but enough to build around him) , personally rather dump myers , miller and boeser....before i trade bo unless the deal is to hard to pass up by columbus Horvat turns 28 in less than 5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Columbus would be a great trade partner for Vancouver. They have lots of young prospects at RHD. Jiricek is the prize, but they also have Ceulemans. Peeke would be good as well and can play right away. Kent Johnson, the local boy would be a good fit here. I'm all about Jiricek. Wanted him at the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I would like to keep Captain Bo here. How about Myers, Miller, Pearson, Broser or Garland? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It's not as bad as it looks tbh. While being the asset they'd need to move out it's not as if we couldn't benefit from taking Voracek on. For example, Voracek but up 62 points in 79 games as a BJ last season. 6 points in 11 games this season. Say we take him back as part of a package for Bo or Miller, not only is he a short term asset but we could retain 50% and flip him out this season or next if he continues to produce. And if he doesn't, well, it's just one more season after this one. Short term headache, potential assets back for Horvat or getting out of 7x8M in Miller. Taking Voracek back to make a trade happen is a no brainer imo. 62 points, but 6 goals in 79 games. They've got Boeser for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, stawns said: 62 points, but 6 goals in 79 games. They've got Boeser for that Not after we trade Boeser lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, stawns said: 62 points, but 6 goals in 79 games. They've got Boeser for that Voracek is more of a playmaker(closing in on 600 assists) and if the goal is to get out of Millers contract it’s 1 year can 7 years next season. He can also be flipped next TD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, The King of Kings said: Why would Columbus go for Miller, with his age and the long term contract, while we all know Horvat is on the market? Locked up little Johnny same age (window) Miller is locked up no risk of him not resigning less uncertainty Hes from Ohio They where rumoured to be interested in him in the summer Flip side to your question why would horvat resign with CBJ when he can go anywhere and to a true contender this summer not a team that’s currently as bad as us. Edited November 17, 2022 by combover 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Well if it's Miller,Bo or BB plus Schenn and we get a good return then do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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