PhillipBlunt Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: As usual, Schenn dispenses the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, chon derry said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, AnthonyG said: Demko has also had lots of offensive support…. He’s been in net for almost every single multi goal lead thats been blown this season…. Martin has played better. Glad he's in tonight. In his small sample size between this season and last, he's done extremely well against top teams. No slouch. Kid obviously has a lot to prove. It's too bad Demko is struggling because we're actually solid in goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 what a mess, I feel so frustrated for these guys they just cannot figure team defence out, Kuz, Miller, Boeser have major lapses in their own end, Myers and OEL have aged out and lost a step, this management group has it touch so does Bruce, trading Bo is not the answer, giving Miller massive money was also not great but hindy 20:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: Fair enough. The way I understood it, and what was largely reported was Linden wanted to build the team and steer the franchise down a different path than ownership. Linden wanted a slower, methodical proper rebuild while ownership wanted a faster, more on the fly approach. Linden was against frivolously trading picks for veterans that may help the team short term while sacrificing prospects and young player inventory into the system. Essentially, Linden wanted full rebuild...others did not. We can assume the "others" were Aquilini and Benning. This is reaffirmed when you look at how the two managed this team, doing exactly what Linden didn't agree with. This is my recent realization, that it was Linden who had a thought out a restructuring plan to rebuild away from the Sedin era. We wasted our 2nds and LE too. We tried to buy our way into the playoffs which put us back another 5 years or so. I was looking at the UFAs around and available at that time. And if we grabbed Shattenkirk and Helm who were available at a very good price. We could have signed both for a lot less than LE combined. They would have been a good stabilizing veteran presence to help us through the growing pains of rebuilding. But no, we hung our hat on LE, big money wasted. And we can't say what the 2nds we lost could have meant to our rebuild. Linden deserves an apology. Edited November 23, 2022 by Hairy Kneel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Wanless said: While those stats look good the majority of those points come from 3 games The only blemish is the 2nd for stillman when the canucks already have a surplus of number 7/8 dmen Wasn’t the second for Dickinsons cap? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Timråfan said: Wasn’t the second for Dickinsons cap? We could have sent him to Abby. The cost would be 1M cap only. 2nd is worth more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: This is my recent realization, that it was Linden who had a thought out a restructuring plan to rebuild away from the Sedin era. We wasted our 2nds and LE too. We tried to buy our way into the playoffs which put us back another 5 years or so. I was looking at the UFAs around and available at that time. And if we grabbed Shattenkirk and Helm who were available at a very good price. We could have signed both for a lot less than LE combined. They would have been a good stabilizing veteran presence to help us through the growing pains of rebuilding. But no, we hung our hat on LE, big money wasted. And we can't say what the 2nds we lost could have meant to our rebuild. 100% Agree....buying our way into competing and post season seemed to be the (flawed) strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, JamesB said: Enjoyed the Boudreau pre-game interview, as always. He is always engaging to listen to. One point I noticed was that he was asked Myers and he said "you guys ask tough questions". That is only a tough question if Myers is playing like crap (which he is), which makes it tough to give an honest answer without throwing the player under the bus. There is a good article today on Canucks army about recent trade talks involving Myers--suggesting that Myers trade value is now more negative than it was in the summer (not surprisingly). I think Myers' best chance to have any on-ice value is to play with Burroughs on the 3rd pairing, as is happening tonight. Tough game for Burroughs to come into but I am just glad to see him on the team. This time I hope Bruce lets him play for a few games. I cannot understand the decision-making that had Stillman ahead of Burroughs. Myers will have trade value once his bonus is paid in the off season leaving only 1 million in actual salary. If the Canucks retain to lower his cap hit he could be very enticing. Problem is he has to play out the season but realistically I shouldnt be holding out hope for a turnaround until next year anyways 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philtbc829 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Who else thinks, loss number 11 coming up... Just like the game against Vegas, their D and D coverage will let them down.... will take a bloody miracle for them to come out with a loser point.... a very dark xmas coming up for the Nucks... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphouse Canuck Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just wondering what novel way we can find to lose tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 The problem here is guys know what it takes to win but on ice they seem to play a different game. Good on Schenn calling the team out saying they need to defend but on reality they all say the right things with little to no action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 We need a new stat on players. Durability. Players that go from season to season with few injuries. Who maintain their stats year to year. Durability I guess would be by % eg Finished 95% of every season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: Myers will have trade value once his bonus is paid in the off season leaving only 1 million in actual salary. If the Canucks retain to lower his cap hit he could be very enticing. Problem is he has to play out the season but realistically I shouldnt be holding out hope for a turnaround until next year anyways Draft will it happen then for a 2nd or 3rd and prospect? Maybe a 1 st late if we are lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofaith Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Taphouse Canuck said: Just wondering what novel way we can find to lose tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, OldFaithfulCap said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaimito Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Expecting a loss, hoping for a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: Because we've never got an explanation about Trev. Not saying we needed one but the Silence about some of the decision making says a lot. Basically 1 of 3 things. Each related: 1) Trev was not happy Ownership didn't want to build the team the right way, through the draft. And did not agree with taking short cuts. So he resigned. 2) Possible conflict of interest between Trev being a developer and Aqua's being a developer. Trev did the right thing and resigned before giving the club a black eye. 3) Trev was not happy with not choosing to rebuild through the draft. Didn't want to slam his head against a wall. And wanted time to be a Dad with his son Roman. So he left to spend more time with this family. And spend more time on his own businesses. Possibly all the above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: He's played a ton more games with the Colorado Eagles than with the Avs, he's still a bottom level spare part from 7 years ago. Still good enough for the cup champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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