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15 minutes ago, Barnstorm said:

That’s a good coach over there!

Just like Francesco with FO personnel, his (bratty) roster is a human meat grinder when it comes to coaches - but his rigid approach didn't help with NHL millionaires; and currently, Boudreaus' pandering approach is quickly, losing its affect. With hindsight, even Scotty Bowman will be ineffective, with a roster full of apathetic player, that are mostly interested in padding their stats.

 

But the team has Green 2.0 (Cull) and another rigid coach in Yeo, it also seems the loss of Walker & Shaw where more significant than what the FO taught.

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22 minutes ago, Wanless said:

While those stats look good the majority of those points come from 3 games

 

The only blemish is the 2nd for stillman when the canucks already have a surplus of number 7/8 dmen

 

 

19 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said:

Yup, another strike on Allvin short tenure. 

Stillman was a pre curser to the bear acquisition and it explains why van never opted to wait for him to go on waivers , that wouldn’t have worked ,also the leafs were in the waiver rotation before van. Carolina retaining partial salary of bears 2.2 mil. To help van be cap compliant. Without Carolinas help to achieve bears desire to land in van there wouldn’t have even been a stillman trade since he didn’t actually address any Canuck need at the time, nor was dickinsons fall off with attached salary make any sense. Since the alternative was to hope Dickinson would clear waivers to go to Abby , and they would have lost him for nothing. 

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11 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Because we've never got an explanation about Trev. Not saying we needed one but the Silence about some of the decision making says a lot. 

Fair enough.

 

The way I understood it, and what was largely reported was Linden wanted to build the team and steer the franchise down a different path than ownership. Linden wanted a slower, methodical proper rebuild while ownership wanted a faster, more on the fly approach. Linden was against frivolously trading picks for veterans that may help the team short term  while sacrificing prospects and young player inventory into the system. Essentially, Linden wanted full rebuild...others did not. We can assume the "others" were Aquilini and Benning. This is reaffirmed when you look at how the two managed this team, doing exactly what Linden didn't agree with. 

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Enjoyed the Boudreau pre-game interview, as always. He is always engaging to listen to.

 

One point I noticed was that he was asked Myers and he said "you guys ask tough questions". That is only a tough question if Myers is playing like crap (which he is), which makes it tough to give an honest answer without throwing the player under the bus. There is a good article today on Canucks army about recent trade talks involving Myers--suggesting that Myers trade value is now more negative than it was in the summer (not surprisingly).

 

I think Myers' best chance to have any on-ice value is to play with Burroughs on the 3rd pairing, as is happening tonight.  Tough game for Burroughs to come into but I am just glad to see him on the team. This time I hope Bruce lets him play for a few games. I cannot understand the decision-making that had Stillman ahead of Burroughs.

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39 minutes ago, AnthonyG said:

Demko has also had lots of offensive support…. He’s been in net for almost every single multi goal lead thats been blown this season…. 

Martin has played better. Glad he's in tonight. In his small sample size between this season and last, he's done extremely well against top teams. No slouch. Kid obviously has a lot to prove. It's too bad Demko is struggling because we're actually solid in goal. 

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what a mess, I feel so frustrated for these guys they just cannot figure team defence out, Kuz, Miller, Boeser have major lapses in their own end, Myers and OEL have aged out and lost a step, this management group has it touch so does Bruce, trading Bo is not the answer, giving Miller massive money was also not great but hindy 20:20

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48 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said:

Fair enough.

 

The way I understood it, and what was largely reported was Linden wanted to build the team and steer the franchise down a different path than ownership. Linden wanted a slower, methodical proper rebuild while ownership wanted a faster, more on the fly approach. Linden was against frivolously trading picks for veterans that may help the team short term  while sacrificing prospects and young player inventory into the system. Essentially, Linden wanted full rebuild...others did not. We can assume the "others" were Aquilini and Benning. This is reaffirmed when you look at how the two managed this team, doing exactly what Linden didn't agree with. 

This is my recent realization,  that it was Linden who had a thought out a restructuring plan to rebuild away from the Sedin era. We wasted our 2nds and LE too. We tried to buy our way into the playoffs which put us back another 5 years or so. 

I was looking at the UFAs around and available at that time. And if we grabbed Shattenkirk and Helm who were available at a very good price. We could have signed both for a lot less than LE combined. They would have been a good stabilizing veteran presence to help us through the growing pains of rebuilding.  But no, we hung our hat on LE, big money wasted. And we can't say what the 2nds we lost could have meant to our rebuild. 

 

Linden deserves an apology. 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

This is my recent realization,  that it was Linden who had a thought out a restructuring plan to rebuild away from the Sedin era. We wasted our 2nds and LE too. We tried to buy our way into the playoffs which put us back another 5 years or so. 

I was looking at the UFAs around and available at that time. And if we grabbed Shattenkirk and Helm who were available at a very good price. We could have signed both for a lot less than LE combined. They would have been a good stabilizing veteran presence to help us through the growing pains of rebuilding.  But no, we hung our hat on LE, big money wasted. And we can't say what the 2nds we lost could have meant to our rebuild. 

 

 

 

 

100% Agree....buying our way into competing and post season seemed to be the (flawed) strategy.

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29 minutes ago, JamesB said:

Enjoyed the Boudreau pre-game interview, as always. He is always engaging to listen to.

 

One point I noticed was that he was asked Myers and he said "you guys ask tough questions". That is only a tough question if Myers is playing like crap (which he is), which makes it tough to give an honest answer without throwing the player under the bus. There is a good article today on Canucks army about recent trade talks involving Myers--suggesting that Myers trade value is now more negative than it was in the summer (not surprisingly).

 

I think Myers' best chance to have any on-ice value is to play with Burroughs on the 3rd pairing, as is happening tonight.  Tough game for Burroughs to come into but I am just glad to see him on the team. This time I hope Bruce lets him play for a few games. I cannot understand the decision-making that had Stillman ahead of Burroughs.

Myers will have trade value once his bonus is paid in the off season leaving only 1 million in actual salary.  If the Canucks retain to lower his cap hit he could be very enticing.

 

Problem is he has to play out the season but realistically I shouldnt be holding out hope for a turnaround until next year anyways

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10 minutes ago, Angry Goose said:

Myers will have trade value once his bonus is paid in the off season leaving only 1 million in actual salary.  If the Canucks retain to lower his cap hit he could be very enticing.

 

Problem is he has to play out the season but realistically I shouldnt be holding out hope for a turnaround until next year anyways

Draft will it happen then for a 2nd or 3rd and prospect?  

 

Maybe a 1 st late if we are lucky.

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